favorite punk band...
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Posted on May 07, 2007 04:51 pm
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just curious, as i am not an avid punk listener, but in that genra, i gotta give props to NOFX and Me First and the Gimmie Gimmies...i dig the snot outta them bands, and punk usually annoys me (espically the low quality recordings!)
what about you?
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Kaos62Kaos is only a form of insanityMember
Since: Feb 03, 2005
May 07, 2007 05:12 pm wyd, I can tell you what I don't like - this modern pop imitation punk like green day, blink etc etc etc etc It just bores the crap out of me! (i'll now duck and cover from the insults I'm gonna get from their fans)
It's too dificult to say who I prefer as their are too many!
What a cop out!
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
May 07, 2007 06:19 pm I kinda like 'em, not for being punk, mind you. I'm not a punk listening person, so their 'non-punk-ness' is worthwhile.
ymmv =)
May 07, 2007 06:23 pm Aiden is a pretty good punk band. That and Plus 44.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
May 07, 2007 06:36 pm Still Misfits for me.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
May 07, 2007 06:49 pm 'scuse me while I pull up a soap-box for a minute...
I don't claim to be the worlds authority on ANYTHING. I am certainly not an authority on punk. However, I was a teenager in London in 1976. That gives me some credence?
Punk wasn't just about music. In fact, the music was just the gel that kept the punk ideal together. Punk was about being different; being an individual, being outside the norm. It was a state of mind in a very messed up society. The clothes were an extension of the individual, not a uniform (anything BUT a uniform!!!!). Look at any picture of, say, the Sex Pistols from back then. They all had different looks.
Fast forward just five years....
Kings Road, Chelsea (where it all started)....
Six hundred "Punks" hanging around in clumps. All look identical. All have the same pants, same jackets, same hair, same everything. That's not punk! That's sheep.
Fast forward twenty plus years....
USA...
Green Day.....I like them. They dared to be different, and play pop/punk for the masses - but still in the "F*** you..." vein of the originals.
All the wannabe punk bands.....Same clothes, same hair, sane pant, same jackets, same songs....
Not punk.
I'm not saying that all of the post-punk bands are unoriginal, and not punk, but there's a long list of bands who fit the bill on this.
For some good stuff:
The Stranglers (obviously!)
Stiff Little Fingers
Sham 69
(Pre-Bow Wow Wow) Adam And The Ants (McLaren Stole the band from Adam to back Anabella Lwin)
Generation-X (Billy Idol!!!)
Splodgenessabounds
The Adverts
Zoundz
X-Ray Spex
Anti Nowhere League
Buzzcocks
Rezillos
Siouxsie and the Banshees
The list goes on...And no two bands sound alike! They do what they do, and f*** everyone else!
Obviously you guys (in the USA) had Black Flag, the Dead Kennedy's and a few others. Compare them to Blink 182, and....well....you can't...
I guess I'm saying that 90% of the modern punk scene is exactly waht punk is not. Sheep.
May 08, 2007 06:31 am the jesus lizard is the only true punk. even though it's not punk, it's so punk.
May 08, 2007 06:48 am After the Sex Pistols it's been all downhill for punk.
May 08, 2007 12:24 pm i know what y'all mean, but as a good middle of the road NOFX/Fat Records has kept it alive, without gooin' pop.
May 08, 2007 12:26 pm Johnny Hero is the only person keeping punk alive.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
May 08, 2007 12:54 pm Not all downhill.
We had some great punk from the 70's (my favorites) and the early 80's were very good also.
Tallchap already named some good stuff, along with that I would also welcome Devo (so far ahead of their time), The Clash, Richard Hell and that's not even going into some of the better 80's punk like Dead Kennedys, Misfits, Black Flag, SOD, Suicidal (more punk metal), The Accused, GWAR(Who later turned more rock than punk but still rule)!!!!!
I wish I would have been younger for the 70's punk but at least I caught the 80's.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 08, 2007 04:19 pm Dead Milkmen
Bad Brains
Black Flag
DRI
those are who is on rotation in my cd player at the moment.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 08, 2007 04:20 pm oooh gotta add in creaming jesus, joy division, bauhaus, alien sex fiend, and MIRV.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
May 08, 2007 05:09 pm Devo is considered "punk"? Didn't know that. I saw them perform live back in the day and they put on a pretty cool show. Of course the small venue and all the "friendly's" probably helped.
May 08, 2007 10:09 pm Ahh i almost forgot, one of the most intellilgent and pollitically active punk bands, not to mention their great music....Anti-Flag
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 08, 2007 11:05 pm Did you all forget the Ramones????
Social Distortion
Misfits of course!
The Vandals
The Exploited
Manic Hispanic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(if you have not, do so now!)
Generation X
Buzzcocks
The Stranglers
Motorhead (mostly punk but kind of metal)
Dropkick Murphys
Flogging Molly
Iggy and the Stooges
Screeching Weasel (sort of)
Sonic Youth
Soilent Green
Sublime (crossed over though)
Television
The Clash
The Cramps
The Pogues
The Suicide Commandos (local boys made it big, sort of)
The Velvet Underground (ya didn't know they were punk once did ya)
Shonan Knife (Japanese girl punk band)
The list could go on all n ight.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
May 09, 2007 10:52 am The New York Dolls.
MC5.
The Pretty Things.
The Troggs.
Paved the way for punk.
VU? Really? More experimental, I'd have thought.
There you go thinking again, Ian....
MurphyAn outburst for perfectionMember
Since: Dec 11, 2002
May 09, 2007 02:30 pm
Shonan Knife! I remember seeing them live when I was sweet16, back in 1991, they were supporting Nirvana.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
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May 09, 2007 03:09 pm I would not say Devo is straight punk, but the first album (are we not men, we are devo) definitely had a 70's punk vibe to it, in a strong way IMO.
May 09, 2007 06:50 pm I'm gonna have to go with The Clash, Green Day, Screeching Weasel, The Descendants, The Bouncing Souls and Ann Beretta.
May 09, 2007 06:55 pm Oh and for the record, the Sex Pistols were a terrible boy band.
May 09, 2007 07:02 pm I hereby recant my statement that hero is saving punk...
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
May 09, 2007 07:37 pm Boy, people are just pushing dB-Wan lately. I don't know how you reamain so calm...
Johnny Hero: [quote]Punk wasn't just about music. In fact, the music was just the gel that kept the punk ideal together. Punk was about being different; being an individual, being outside the norm. It was a state of mind in a very messed up society.
[/quote]
I see where you're going - Malcom McLaren/Vivian Westwood/SEX Boutique.....hand picked....boy band....take on world....etc. (you're up to spped on all these, right?)
No. The Sex Pistols were an extension of an attitude. A manifestation of a hatred of conformity. The death of disco...
Put away those shiny coffee table books and get some copies of NME (New Musical Express) from the time. While you're at it, pick up some of the big sheet newspapers from London from the same time. Way scary. One in ten unemployment, refuse workers' strikes, IRA bombings, closures of docks, the prime minister resigns, the Notting Hill race riots, the drought (which didn't help with the refuse workers strike) etc. and apart from that, England got murdered by the Windies, and the Aussies in the cricket...!
Punk is not just three chords and spitting!
May 09, 2007 07:57 pm One thing I have never, ever understood, why is "being an individual" always mean being outside the norm...why can people only "express themselves" by being different.
Can one be an individual and express themselves in business casual clothing and working 9 to 5?
May 09, 2007 09:15 pm Quote:
Punk was about being different; being an individual, being outside the norm.
It's an endless source of amusement for me that the harder these people try to express their individuality, the more they seem exactly like all the rest of the "individuals"...
Bleh.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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May 09, 2007 09:27 pm Yep, I know several punks who do the 9 to 5 thing in biz casual I might add. Then when its playing time for them it is all down to the raw. Ever seen Mike Ness in a suit? I have, and he is quite the business man really. But when it comes to Social Distortion he is a completely different person, still a calm cool and collected individual but with an attitude in the music.
OH and I should be completely shot for forgetting one important piece of punk. I did mention Shonan Knife but neglected these.
The Runaways
Joan Jett and the Blackhearts (early stuff)
Babes in Toyland (local girls, Kat Kjeland is a goddess)
Kittie
Violators (nearly all female)
Malaria
Bikini Kill
Cibo Matto
Riot Grrrl
Lilliput
Bratmobile
One we did indeed forget is Wendy O Williams and the Plasmatics, I feel so ashamed for forgetting her.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
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May 10, 2007 11:35 am The Runaways? Oooooh....Cherie Currie!!!!! Lita Ford!!!!!! Ooooh......
Not punk, though!
You missed The Slits.
Wendy O. Very sad. Loved the electrical tape "X"s
Cherie Currie.
Oh, and Cherie Currie.
Lita Ford once sat down at a bar, back in the 80's, in London with my friend and I. My friend actually couldn't speak.
She was very lovely.
And Cherie Currie.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
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May 10, 2007 11:41 am And yeah, Herb, one of my points was that the original meaning has all but disappeared and we know have a bunch of sheep in "uniforms."
dB-Wan: The original punks were unemployed in a very depressed time. The couldn't do the 9-5 if they wanted to. The band UB40 were named after the "Unemployment Benefits Form 40" - the card you take to the "dole" office to get your benefits. One of their early hits - "One in ten" was about unemployment - one in ten were unemployed. In a country of 55 million, that's a lot of unemployed! It was hard times.
May 10, 2007 11:54 am I understand all that (didn't know about UB40 tho, thats interesting)...I am talking about today though, regarding my comments.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
May 10, 2007 12:46 pm I totally agree that the Sex Pistols were a boy band. I've held that sentiment for a long time now.
Devo I'd classify more as new wave (or no-wave) rather than punk, but I'll admit I'm only familiar with their popular output and not their early stuff.
As for favorites, I always liked the proto-punk Iggy and the Stooges stuff. Also a little bit of New York Dolls, and one of two of the post-punk bands like Television.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
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May 10, 2007 01:06 pm Devo were far ahead of their time using synth with punk and other styles as well. They have a song (Mongoloid) featured on a 70's punk compilation cd(The Untied States Of Punk Vol.1). I was only familiar with the "Whip It" era also and never really liked Devo until I picked up that album, which led to me seeing where it came from (1st album).
MurphyAn outburst for perfectionMember
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May 10, 2007 02:42 pm
isn't is Kat Bjelland?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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May 10, 2007 10:35 pm Murphy, yes my type I'm afraid.
One thing most people don't know about the band is that Kat was the creator of the kinderhore look later made popular by Courtney Love of Hole. They argued for years over who actually created it. But we in MN know it Kat was doing it several years before Courtney did.
I was lucky enough to have worked in the studio with them in the 80's. Nice girls really.
Tall Chap, all though yes Cherie is a hotty as are they all Joan has a special place inn my heart. Especially back then. Lity was the cause of the demise in all fairness.
And indeed the Runaways were punk, although by the time their first non indy record was released they were turned into a commercial girl band, bummer.
Dec 01, 2007 04:47 am Tripps, i consider Gwar more metal (in sound) and satirical in nature then punk...really punk is the last thing that comes to mind when thinking about gwar.
your thoughts? what makes 'em punk?
Dec 01, 2007 09:27 am I noticed DEVO mentioned a few times...
You guys should check out this band: myspace.com/polysics
A friend of mine put out a few of their records here in the states, and now they've signed to myspace records (ugh).
Pretty neat stuff. I'm not sure that I get it, but I like it.
Dec 01, 2007 09:33 am I highly recommend the video Coelakanth Is Android (live) on their page.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Dec 01, 2007 09:57 am I'll check it out later Johnny. Sounds interesting if they are being compared to DEVO.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Dec 01, 2007 02:02 pm Oh ya, that is cool. They have blended some pretty cool stuff. I love the take on the Korg Polysix name. It was one of the coolest synths in 1981. I'll have to order me a CD. Electronic punk I would call it. Or sort of anyway. They are really good. Pit they are on the myspace label.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
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Dec 01, 2007 02:40 pm [quote]Tripps, i consider Gwar more metal (in sound) and satirical in nature then punk...really punk is the last thing that comes to mind when thinking about gwar.
your thoughts? what makes 'em punk?[/quote]
The music to a point, the vocal stylings, not the lyrical content. If you listen to "Scumdogs of the universe" there is really not much metal about it.
www.amazon.com/Scumdogs-U...1065&sr=8-1
Later later on, the did tend to lean towards metal.
That is actually one of the things I love about Gwar, they actually incorporate a ton of different styles into their music.
And Remember I was born in the 70's. My generation of punk was The Accused, Dead Kennedy's, Misfits, Black Flag, SOD, yada yada. It was all tending to lean towards metal anyway, yet called hardcore punk. It was still punk to me.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
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Dec 01, 2007 03:20 pm Some of the earlier Police stuff is about as punk as I get... which can be fairly punky .
Izzy Dutch'The Flying Dutchman'Member
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Dec 01, 2007 03:58 pm The Ramones / New York Dolls / The Damned
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Dec 01, 2007 04:25 pm I'm with Izzy on that. The Ramones were the epitome of what punk should have remained. Not taking anything away from the bands who derived from punk and either went the New Wave direction or like the New York Dolls who turned punk kind of glamish. And The Damned of course were hardcore punk like the Misfits and the like.
Dec 01, 2007 06:36 pm i always say the jesus lizard in response to this question. the music isn't really punk, but the attitude is unmistakable. i think it's what modern punk bands lack! piss n' vinegar!
Dec 01, 2007 08:18 pm Noize,
If you're going to order polysics stuff, I'd recommend getting some of there earlier stuff from Asian Man Records instead of Myspace records.
It's not one of those "their first record was better" situations, but more you'd be supporting an awesome indie label, and the dude that runs it just had a kid, so he needs all the income he can get right now.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Dec 01, 2007 09:35 pm Cool, you know I'm all about supporting the indie label rather then some corporate entity, especially myspace!
Um, OK why didn't ya just say it was Mike's label. I ordered the one CD he still has in print and a redundant copy on vinyl as well as a couple more Shinobu CD's. I saw more stuff I wanna order as well.
Tell Mike Tuna still has his Plea for Peace T shirt and wears it still along with many of the buttons and stuff you sent him.
If he ever puts that other Polysics CD back into print or knows were I can get one let me know.
Thanx for letting me know about that label, I'll be ordering more from them for sure.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Dec 02, 2007 07:52 pm YES! Indie-labels produce some of the best music out there. I'm not into pop/punk but I like some old punk and I'm obsessed with modern indie-rock.
Modern Indie-Rock Bands That I Like:
Modest Mouse
Interpol
Muse
Arctic Monkeys
And the list goes on but I'm kind of sick of typing...
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
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Dec 03, 2007 10:32 am And where did those indie labels get their start?
Punk.
I thang yoo!
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Dec 03, 2007 04:48 pm That was my point. Punk started the idea of making music that was different.
