Jedi or Empire?
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Posted on Oct 14, 2005 11:43 pm
Johnny Hero
Member Since: Apr 26, 2002
Which do you guys think is better and why?
I vote Empire. It was so much darker and didn't have a bunch of annoying teddy bears running around.
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zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Oct 15, 2005 12:35 am Empire... great opening battle scene...
But which is your favorite book?
mines Tales of the Mos Eisley Cantena... Would have been Tales of the Bounty Hunters (or was it Jabbas Palace?) but there was some continuity issues with Bossk with another book which was badly repaired... It did take me a while to accept Chewie dieing in the NJO series though...and Vergere is my favorite character... though I think the most interesting character to see on film would be Tahiri Veila.
I'm still trying to decide who is older... Zonama Sekot or the unmentioned vampire guy in the Mos Eisly Cantena (the guy smoking the pipe thing) ... probably Sekot...
Oct 15, 2005 03:59 am star wars is fantasy, not sci fi. empire, though.
Oct 15, 2005 09:09 am Who said anything about it being sci-fi?
Oct 15, 2005 09:19 am Jedi, just cuz I wanna be different.
Oct 15, 2005 02:09 pm Quite frankly, I think Cartman could kick any Jedi/Empire's ***.
He kills me all the time.
~Kenny =)
Oct 15, 2005 02:35 pm i just wanted to make sure that was known!
el musicoFreeleance Producer/Engineer/GtrMember
Since: Aug 11, 2002
Oct 15, 2005 08:54 pm How is it not sci-fi? How about fantasy sci-fi?
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Oct 16, 2005 01:20 am well... basically if you look at other scifi's like Forbidden Planet most sci-fis will espouse atleast one semiplausable theory or explain things with theory... often dealing with atomic anxiety or psychoanalysis... or be "visions of the future" like Things to Come" (which I feel is one movie that most needs to have a modern adaptation)
Star Wars is much "better written" in a classical sense in that it follows most of the rules of mythological story telling. To really understand the difference you should read "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" by Joseph Campbell.
www.amazon.com/gp/product...55&v=glance
...too bad it didn't cover writing good modern love story...
Oct 16, 2005 04:29 am aye, star wars is a campbellian style fantasy myth which includes technology. not to reduce it.
Oct 16, 2005 08:38 pm something that struck me about empire was all the innocent independent contractors on the death star that were killed by the rebellion.. caught in a war they had nothing to do with :)
Oct 16, 2005 08:39 pm Anybody play star wars galaxies? I thought that was the biggest ripoff. Like you had to buy the game for $50, AND pay like $15 a month to freaking play it online.
I was like "screw that" I'll play counterstrike online for free.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Oct 17, 2005 04:56 pm No...but I have both the D6 and D20 Role Playing Games... I like the D6 system better.
America's Army is completely free :) ...though it's a rather huge download.
Oct 17, 2005 04:59 pm I prefer d20...ju8st cuz it's different...I just found my old set of dice while cleaning up some of my boxes of "stuff" in the basement a couple weeks ago...makes me wanna see if I could get in a tournament somewhere just for fun.
Oct 17, 2005 05:27 pm "something that struck me about empire was all the innocent independent contractors on the death star that were killed by the rebellion.. caught in a war they had nothing to do with :)"
While I appriceate the Clerks reference (which is actually what spawned this question), the innocent independent contractors were killed in Jedi. There was no Death Star in Empire.
Oct 17, 2005 08:25 pm hahahaha yes your correct..
Oct 18, 2005 12:53 am what about on hoth? werent there indies there? in any case, it's a really good idea.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 18, 2005 09:38 pm My personal opinion is in the end, it was all about how many special effects they could get into the movie, not how good the story was. I was very dissappointed to say the least. Not dissing those who actually enjoyed the movie by any means here either, so dont jump on my neck. It's just I remember seeing StarWars, and a real big screne not this mini multiplex crap and loving the special effects, as they didnt take over the entire movie. As the saga continued though it seems that the FX took on a more important role then telling the story did.
Just my humble opinion.
SirrusPrince of Cat EarsMember
Since: Jun 17, 2004
Oct 19, 2005 01:32 pm I'll be a real prick and go with Star Wars Ep IV just because it had this really fresh enthusiasm that I didn't really get off of any of the other movies. It's the kind of vibe someone seeing it for the first time the year it came out must have had.
I used to hate Empire FOR being too dark, but I've come to appreciate it for being a logical continuation of the "first" movie's plot. It made an awful lot of sense that it would be a push in the opposite direction after a "happy ending."
I'll go with anybody who got tired of the teddy bears in Jedi though...
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Oct 19, 2005 02:47 pm Joseph Campbell rocks..or did....
Is there anything cooler than an X-wing?
Gotta go Jedi/Rebel
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Oct 19, 2005 02:52 pm Of course, someone will mention "Jedi MASTER" and the word "master" will flag dB-Wan to come in and write something praiseworthy about HarBal.
Teeeheeeheeeheeeheee
I know...there's a special kind of hell for me...
Oct 19, 2005 02:53 pm HarBal? Mastering?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 19, 2005 10:56 pm TallChap, hopefully they will have HarBal in the special hell. I know I will be there as well.
