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I was considering buying one of these. They are supposed to model different amp sounds. So I was wondering if they are a good buy or not. I was hoping someone here used one before and knows something about them. Are they worth the 299.00? Or should I just buy a nice guitar amp? Like Mesa Boogie or something. That would run alot more money though. Thanks.

Derrick

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Since: Sep 12, 2003

Sep 20, 2004 12:41 pm

I'm not a guitar player but I record guitarist and these things rock!! They have a much clearer sound then micing a guitar cabinet. I would like to get the rack mount one but it wouldn't do me good since I don't play guitar but I would love to record with it. I know some guitar peeps here use them, they will know more.

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Since: May 30, 2002

Sep 20, 2004 01:06 pm

I have the PODxt and it absolutely rocks! It does depend on what you need it for however.
If you are looking for some great tone to record direct with, then you'll not find anything better at a comparable cost. If you are looking for a pedal board type of deal to go between guitar and amp you might want to keep looking around.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Sep 20, 2004 01:50 pm

they're good but not perfect. i have the older 2.0 and i love it, despite what i perceive as a treble problem. this sort of thing is only going to get better as time goes on so i am a convert for life. however, i will keep checking out products made by other companies.

I'm scary! Boo!!!
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Since: Jul 25, 2004

Sep 20, 2004 03:29 pm

Thanks for the input, I am going to be using it to record with. I figured I'd buy the rack mount one. I play guitar and bass, so I thought it wouldn't be a bad buy if it sounds good.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Sep 20, 2004 03:34 pm

I used my old POD 1.0 for my bass until recently when I bought the Bass VAmp Pro. But the POD did work well for bass if you choose the right amps and stuff...

Hello!
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Since: Jan 12, 2004

Sep 21, 2004 10:30 am

I use the Behringer VAMP2 and I have no complaints at all.

Its a great wee unit, the effects are useable and FAR MORE SO when you get the midi connection and software for the PC...then its soooo easy to make your own amps, effects etc that you can get top sounds using simple drop downs...create custom amps or tweak ones already there.

For the cash, its the best value as far as I can see. I know many folks use and love the pod but for me, its more expensive withoot being a lot better for the cash...what Im saying is - bang for buck, you wont go wrong with the VAMP2. Its £100 here in the UK (roughly $200 USD) but you guys may get it cheaper (things are dearer here in the UK).

Failing this, if you have access to an app like Cubase with uses VST plugs, you should try Amplitube - its a VST amp modeller with effects and its wayyy cool. The advantage with this over the VAMP or POD is you record clean i.e. DI and the effect is applied as software i.e. the amp, effects, combinations of both so you can mess with it til you get the right tone.

Cool..

Good luck

Coco.

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Since: Aug 07, 2004

Oct 02, 2004 09:06 pm

I never really liked the PODs. Roomie had one and he was never happy with it. With "multifunction" buttons, it seems a bit difficult to maneuver around thru the parameters.
I like my Boss Gx-700.

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002

Oct 02, 2004 09:16 pm

Only used it once for a real heavy metal guitar. Did a great job. I'm sure it is not end all do all, but I would definately consider having one in the arsonal.

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Since: Jul 02, 2003

Oct 02, 2004 09:54 pm

Nothing wrong with the POD, but don't ignore boxes such as the Digitek GNX series, IMO they have a better sound, are easier to use preset wise and also have an expression pedal and foot swtiches when the need arises. If your willing to spend a bit more the Boss GT6 is an incredible sounding guitar processor, again with expression pedal and foot switches, both have digital out as well.

Dan

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Since: May 09, 2004

Oct 02, 2004 09:56 pm

Never used a POD, but I have a Boss GT-3 which I think sounds great. I got the compliment once that my tone "beats the hell" out of the tone his POD was giving. Of course, he may have been running on factory presets which usually gotta be tweaked. Here's an example of some of what the GT-3 is capable of:

www.2pm.c-f-h.com/mp3s/treyhifi.mp3

The thing about amp modeling is after a while, you really start to notice the 'digitalness' of the signal. Sometimes its more noticable than others. I guess whether or not you want to go this way depends on what styles you play and how picky you are about tone. Me personally, I've really been craving the real deal so I just recently caved and bought a Carvin Legacy(LOUD!)

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Oct 02, 2004 10:00 pm

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Oct 02, 2004 10:06 pm

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Oct 04, 2004 06:54 am

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Since: May 30, 2002

Oct 04, 2004 04:39 pm

I own a PODxt and I love it, it has much more to offer than the older models and of course it's cheaper now than when I bought mine earlier this year.

Line 6 is also just about to release the new POD live, Basically the same unit in a footboard, with a few other upgrades/adjustments.

I haven't tried the Behringer or the BOSS unit mentioned earlier in this thread but I would suggest that your local music store might be able to set you up in a room with several different units and let you go nuts for a little while.

If you are nuts about your tone as I am, this could be a big decision.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Oct 07, 2004 10:45 pm

Well they all have their good points, but honestly if you havent tried a POD XT with the newest firmware upgrades and the additional amp models and cabinet models then you havent heard what the POD can do. Honestly I do tweak all my own patches and You couldnt tell the differance. I have had die hard guitar guys say they cant tell the differance, and these are guys who have been playing for 20 to 30 years. I have had guys come in here with their high wattage grind amps and they end up using the POD after they hear it.

And as far as editing goes, the XT can be fully editing right from the front panel, and that means every single thing you can edit. I prefer to edit using the Line 6 editor on the PC but it is just as easily edited right on the POD.

I purchased the extra effects packs as well and I havent even scratched the surface of what the thing cna really do yet. I dont see myself getting bored anytime soon. And trust me on that as I am a tweak freak, I spend 5 or 6 hours at a wack tweaking looking for new sounds.

Karyn
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Since: Jul 10, 2004

Oct 08, 2004 12:27 pm

I love my pod. Sorry for the long post.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Oct 08, 2004 12:29 pm

I have an old POD v1 with the floorboard if anyone wants to buy it.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Oct 08, 2004 10:39 pm

dB, If your serious I might buy it for Tuna. Maybe for christmass or something. The pins are out of his hand now and he heads to therapy starting Tuesday next week. And she said he should be able to wrap his digits around the neck again in about 2 or 3 weeks.

Hi Karyn, havent seen ya about lately. Are you still using the POD 2.0 or did ya pop for an XT yet?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Oct 08, 2004 11:15 pm

wow.. im a little late getting to this one.
but i love my pod xt. that thing is awesome at cranking out and creating awesome tones.

its potential is only limited by the user and at some point, its manufacture specs =P

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Oct 09, 2004 12:25 am

i played with an XT in the store last week and it sounded pretty similar to the 2.0 in terms of tone quality. of course, i only played with the presets. and there is a slight possibility that the left headphone was screwy.

but wow, there's an extra effects pack you can buy? whats in there?

Karyn
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Since: Jul 10, 2004

Oct 09, 2004 03:20 am

Hi Karyn, havent seen ya about lately. Are you still using the POD 2.0 or did ya pop for an XT yet?

Hi Noize, I'm still using 2.0, but if the XT is much better, I might spring for it. I wonder if it's now shipping with all the presets.

It seems alot of top pro engineers are pretty snooty about pod. They hate it. I have to respectfully disagree. It's interesting how reluctant people are to change.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Oct 09, 2004 11:20 am

Yeah, Noize, I'm serious, I am sick of this stupid little kidney bean shaped friggin' thing sitting around. I wanna go to the Vamp Pro, maybe the Guitar Rig or the new plug thing I was talking about with ya a couple days ago from Nomad...I gotta check some things out, I want something in my PC or rack mountable which excludes the POD cuz their rackmountable units are insanely expensive for the marginally better sound quality they give over others.

My Bass Vamp kicks butt, I am gonna test the guitar Vamp one of these days...

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Oct 10, 2004 03:55 pm

Karyn, I know what you mean about the snooty ones. I was one of those gusy for a long time. I honestly didnt believe a digital device, meaning the PC for recording, or devices like the POD and Vamp could possibly manage to sound good. But after learning how to use them I can honestly say I will never go back to analog, unless I find an analog synth or something I yearn for. My version 1 POD took me a long time to learn to tweak, and with the XT I am barely starting to peak beneath the surface. I did find however that most of the presets, as forty stated are over the top but it is for one reason alone. They all seem to have a huge amount of mid boosted on them. I started messing with cutting some mid and high end out and smoothed a bunch of them right out.

I also found the XT handled my acuostic much better as well. A much cleaner and truer tone then I got from the original POD. And almost better then straight in. I normally only use the XT if I need more color on the acoustic tracks.

forty here is the page with the model packs, the FX are on the right.
www.line6.com/modelPacks/podxt/sounds.html

dB, I may grab it for Tuan for Christmass. WE shall see how he is after therapy starts on his hand.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Oct 10, 2004 05:38 pm

oh my god! extra amp models! metal shop package...

i should probably get the XT asap. would you recommend getting one off ebay for cheap or just save up? i'm wary of ebay.

on second thought...those amps are so dry i can't tell if i like them.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Oct 11, 2004 11:05 pm

I guess honestly forty, if you can get one from a trusted source on ebay. Or from a reputable resource like Music go Round www.musicgoround.com

I did a quick search and found 2 for sale. I cant copy the page URL as it goes no-where when copied so you will have to do a search once your there. One was $149.99 and the other was $269.00 with all the goodies.

Now no matter what you get for an XT it will be able to have the firmware upgraded to the newest version without any fuss. And I am sure you allready looked at the add on goodies so your all set.

And yes indeed, the thing goes all out on the metal shop stuff. I almost blew my head off with some of the factory patches when I first got going, cause I just couldnt stop turning it up louder, and louder, and louder. I actually shook stuff off the shelves in here before I decided that it was too loud. But then that is what I get for playing through a 900 watt power amp.

Also I will try giving Ben a call and see if he can turn anymore up at other stores that might not show up on that search.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Oct 27, 2004 10:31 pm

well,

something must be wrong. i just tested--again--the pod XT at my local sam ash and it sounds truly awful. like, really really bad. i asked the guy "is something wrong with this? my 2.0 has a way better tone than anything in here." he didnt seem to know much about it, though.

i tried two diff pairs of headphones. the high end is far worse than on my pod, and everyhing sounds generally fuzzed out and bad. i am assuming that something's wrong with this particular unit or the headphone cord, but you know, you want to hear one of these things before you decide to ask for one for X-mas.

s0o i guess i will have to drive far away and find another unit to test. :(

when i do, i would like to be able to try my hand at editing the options. the one thing i couldnt figure out on the XT is how to change the cab models. where's that knob, noize? and how do i access the mic modeling controls?

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Since: Sep 19, 2004

Oct 27, 2004 11:08 pm

I guess I'm a purist here. I think POD's are junk. These things are marketed for people the makers think will never ever hear what a real vintage Fender Blackface or hand wired Vox AC30 sound like, i guess if you just don't care about having the real thing go for it, or just want diffrent sounds. But you'll never ever get a pure tube tone out of these. Just my opinion.

I approve of the above message

JoeW

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Oct 28, 2004 12:18 am

i don't understand the purist stance at all. even if i had grown up using tube amps, i could see myself wishing and waiting for the day that digital takes over. convenience means a lot. i just want them to get it right, and sooner rather than later. the only real prob with my POD is a treble issue.

p.s. how can you be a purist and play a mexistrat? (i ain't knockin'. i've got an asian strat)

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Since: Sep 19, 2004

Oct 28, 2004 12:58 am

fortymile,
ah man you got me, heh. Well, i think i got a sweet meximelt strat. I hear ya though, convience is nice. But a tube is a tube is a tube. Most players are so intent on emulating someone else's sound and not creating there own. I guess if your a cover type band go for it. And no matter what type of equipment you have, i've know guys to have $5k-$8k worth of amps,racks and yadda yadda. And they still sucked cuz they had no skill. I think i just went on a rant sorry.

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Since: Jul 02, 2003

Oct 28, 2004 01:41 am

Well I grew up using tube, transistor, and combo amps and I'll take my Boss GT6 (or any number of modeling devices) any day over any of them. Not that they weren't nice, but you can get close to the sound of any amp/combo you want with todays hardware, giving one a much wider range of sounds, cheaper, and easier.

Any sound you want is there with todays modeling hardware and a little patience.

Dan


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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Oct 28, 2004 02:33 am

s'ok mang. i wasnt upset or anything. if i can get something actually usable out of these things then i'm more than happy. usable for me would equal no annoying high frequencies. with POD i havent gotten there yet because reducing the annoying freqs takes out the presence, too.

come on line6, dont fail me now. pod XT II, let's go.

if anyone knows how to flip through cabinets on XT, i'd be much obliged

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Oct 28, 2004 11:08 pm

forty, hit the edit button then twist the select knob one turn clockwise and your there. Then just use the buttons underneath the words cab, mic, room to select the cab, or mic or amount of room sound you want. Usse the effect tweak knob to change the cab or what ever of each parameter you have selected at that time. You can audition the sounds as you switch from cab to cab or whatever, before you exit the edit function.

I would also recomend turning the presance down as well as trying to cut the mids a bit as well. They seem to have cranked those up a large amount on all the factory patches. Lord knows why but they did. I think some of the facotry patches were OK after I did that.

And forty, once your in edit mode you simply go from screen to screen by turning the slelct knob. And once you have made the choice of parameter to edit use the effect tweak knob to change that parameter.

If you still got questions let me know.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Nov 15, 2004 07:03 pm

So forty, didi ya ever go give one another shot yet?

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Nov 15, 2004 11:06 pm

oh, sorry noize. i didnt see your response.

i will print this out and go check it out sometime this week. thanks!

I am not a crook's head
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Since: Mar 14, 2003

Nov 15, 2004 11:20 pm

did you see that link i posted the other day for the line 6 site that has all sorts of downloadable patches and articles about the POD? I'm not sure if its worth a hoot, but you may want to see if any of the users there share your problem with the high-end on your POD.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Nov 16, 2004 01:19 am

hey good idea. will do that now

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004

Nov 16, 2004 11:43 am

I bought a Boss GT-6, though i'm using it live in a gig situation. I'm happy with it, though it's taking some time to get used to configuring it correctly. I probably be recording with it at sometime to see how I like it, haven't had a chance yet. Our other guitarist uses a POD (not sure if it's a 2 or xt) when he's not useing his cybertwin, and it sounds quite nice.

I think the modelling world needs the user to get tweaking to get a good mix of the guitar/player/effects/modelling/amp/p.a. combination.


Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Nov 24, 2004 04:16 pm

Yep, I use the Line 6 Monkey to get all my updates and hook my up directly to Line 6. The new Line 6 editor is very impresive and all the bugs are worked out of it now. I dont know what I would do without it. I love my XT now and dont forsee parting with it anytime soon.

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Since: May 15, 2004

Nov 24, 2004 11:30 pm

I tested the PODxt at a store a couple of times already this month alone. At first, the sample PODxt in their showroom sounded awful and I thought Line 6 marketing had been cheating people all around. I went back with BOSSlike feeling. Later I found that the PODxt had not been upgraded to Ver. 2 yet.

A week later, the salesperson called me up and told me to come and check out the sound after the version 2 upgrade and Metal Shop installation.

I tried it out for almost an hour with my gear and I couldnt stop tweaking here and there as it sounded very very different from the first time. The digital sound was at a very minimal level and can easily be EQued down at the high shelf. Overall, I was satisfied with how the distortion sounded and I guess I've found my sound already in there.

Ive paid the deposit and cant wait for the shipment next month.

I guess:

1. Must upgrade to the latest version before you judge it.
2. There are 32 amp models, there must be at least one which will suit your needs perfectly.

Daa..

ciinx

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Nov 25, 2004 02:19 am

There are actually moer then 32 available. And indeed, make sure you are playing one iwth the most up to date firmware version. It makes all the diffeerance in the world.

And as I stated before, make sure and cut some of the high end down to taste, and also cut some or all of the presence to get a better sound in the phones.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Nov 25, 2004 10:51 am

i'd hate to buy an XT only to find that that a third model is waiting in the wings. somehow i didnt know about the XT when i bought my 2.0. the XT arrived the following month.

man i really want to hear this thing now. i hope the high end is a bit better. all this time and i still cant get my 2.0 to sound normal. i never found or made a patch of which i can say 'hey. this, at the most basic level, functions as a believable guitar patch!"

ah, sorry. it's thanksgiving. i at least like that it's red and kidney-shaped and that i have one at all.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Nov 25, 2004 10:57 am

Well, thats kinda always the way it is, but then, if the XT is good enough for your needs, who cares if XTII comes out? One thing I think people fail to realize (or accept) is that because a new version comes out, they will not come to your door with a gun, start yelling racial slurs and shooting at you until you upgrade...oh, wait, I'm mixing up some thread here... :-)

Point is, well, you get my point. I still have POD 1 (for now) and it works just fine...

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Nov 25, 2004 01:48 pm

forty, have you tried bringing the presance down on you POD2.0. I know they were a bit harder to adjust then the ver.1 and the XT. But I know several guys who got pretty decent live sound out of them.

As for the POD XT 2 coming out any time soon. Don't think so. The POD XT was built to be upgraded indefinately via firmware and software tweaks. The electronics are more advanced then any other emulator out there. And that is the reason they went to the extra effort to avoid having to buy new hardware to upgrade the thing.

Like I stated in another thread awhile ago. I bought mine used, hooked it up with the LIne 6 Monkey and upgraded it to the newest version of firmware and software and loved it. Then for the an additional cost which still ended up costing me less then a new one, I added the extra amp models and effects models and now I have the ultimate guitar rig for less then what I would have paid for a brand new one.

But after using it for awhile I would have paid the new price as well to get this thing. But then again I am one of those who tweaks untill I get what I want. And I knew right from the get go it had way to much presance and high end on the factory patches so I just did a globle tweak and away I went. POD patches to my taste and I am happy.

If you want to make sure they have the absolute latest firmware and software version you need to hit the tuner button once, then turn the select knob to the right all the way and you will see the version screen. It should read like this.

POD XT v2.01
USB v1.12
ESN 01011364

That will tell you it is completely up to date. If it isnt there then ask them if they will do the firmware update to get it ready for you to try.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Nov 25, 2004 03:10 pm

haha db.

yeah noize, i am in fact still looking into this. i should hopefulyl have a bit of money in a few months, and an XT is something im seriously looking at.

what you say about the firmware, i thought that might be the case. that it was designed to stay upgradable for a long time. thats good to hear.

yes i have certainly tweedled with my pod endlessly in an attempt to get those annoying highs out of there. the problem is that i need the highs to get a biting tone. so i end up turning them up just to get the bite and force--to make it sound like a lively, punchy guitar--but theres just something not quite right about those frequencies. i understand the pod's controls are hooked up to each other to respond like the real amps theyre modeled after, so i might not yet be DOING the reduction right. if you tweak one EQ knob or gain level, other parameters respond in kind, (including eq curves sometimes) even though you didnt touch them. depending on which amp model it is. according to the handbook. maybe the XT is more amenable to having those highs cut. that'd be nice.

woah, it seems like we've had this POD highs conversation thousands of times by now. just one of those sticky probs for me. its weird--HRC is the perfect resource but my brain is a sieve. i still dont have a method for compression after all this time. jeez.


Czar of Midi
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Nov 25, 2004 06:33 pm

Indeed forty, I loose so much stuff lately. My brain is over full of info and it seems that the most recently digested info is the first to leave to make space for the old memories.

But agree with ya on the fact that it is a steep learning curve to adapt to which amps react in differant ways to the twiddling of the knobs. And yes, they have the best emulation of how the real amps react when tweaked, and that in itself can be a pain when trying to tweak it to perection.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Nov 27, 2004 08:54 pm

i went to sam ash and tried the XT, noize, with your helpful instructions in my pocket (thank you).

i uh...

for some reason i dont think it sounds any better than my 2.0. i played with it for 15 minutes. granted, all the adjustments i made were gross ones and i probabl;y just naturally dont know what im doing. i chose a cabinet and amp combo and just scrolled through some effects and reduced the presence. then i tried other cabs and amps. seems like theres only a few additional amps. i found the same harshness in the XT as whats in my 2.0 and didnt see other reasons to get the XT other than the superior interface.

then i tried the boss GT-6 which i found to be actually awful. the cleans on the GT-6 are fantastic (especially the jt-1000 or whatever that is). but the distortions were seriously bad.

so i left today resigned to make my 2.0 work as well as i can until, maybe, NI gets guitar rig into a hardware unit or theres some other big advance in the field.

arghh

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Nov 27, 2004 11:29 pm

I am guessing they dont have the full update in it then. But then again, I rarely use headphones with it, and indeed did spend several hours tweaking it to my liking.

I'm bummed ya didn't get it sound good. I wish there was a way I could just send ya the data out of mine and you could drag that to the store with ya.

Oh well, come up to MN and try mine out. :-)

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Nov 28, 2004 04:57 pm

next time i'm up that way, i will!

i'll try harder next time i'm at the store. spend some more time. thanks

eeeeeeemo.
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Since: Oct 30, 2003

Dec 01, 2004 10:02 am

referring back to a post waay up at the top there, about amplitude

is it any good at processing electric bass? i use a pod xt for guitars, but am soon gonna be picking up a di box which i will use to do my bass recordings on instead, and i'm just looking for something to give them more of a live feel than a pure di'd signal...

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Since: May 09, 2004

Dec 01, 2004 02:12 pm

Amplitude works great for bass. We have it in our Protools setup. In fact the only things we tried it on were bass sounds.

It could probably be used for anything you taste suggests though.

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Since: Jul 02, 2003

Dec 01, 2004 03:32 pm

One thing to keep in mind forty when your trying these effects units like the Pod GNX, & GT6 is unless your using the same type of guitar that the preset was created with your more than likely going to have to do some serious tweaking to get the sound really good. The sounds are there in all of them, it's finding them that's the trick. :)

Dan

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Dec 01, 2004 08:31 pm

they can't possibly be there in the GT6. those distortion sounds i found to be highly artificial. like i said though, absolutely amazing cleans.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Dec 01, 2004 08:39 pm

Distortion is a VERY difficult effect to accurately reproduce in the digital realm. Line 6 does it pretty well, but think about it, almost all other effects are very mathmatical and very easy to algorhythm...but distorition is as unpredictable as the reaction of an overheated tube or over-driven circuits...pretty tough to simulate accurately in the digital domain...

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Dec 01, 2004 09:25 pm

i know, but it seems that the POD comes way closer than the GT-6.

i wish i knew more about this. it seems that there should be a statistical way to model a tube overheating.

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Since: Jul 02, 2003

Dec 01, 2004 10:17 pm

Well tube is only 1 type of distortion of many. The ProCo Rat, Boss DS1 for example, aren't tube type and are considered to be 2 of finest distortion pedals ever made.

As for the GT6 to each to his own, I've found it to be a very good effects/distortion pedal.

Dan


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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Dec 01, 2004 11:34 pm

oh i so wanted to like it. i was ready to make a switch. maybe you've found a way to set it to your taste or have different distortion needs than i. that's cool.

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Dec 02, 2004 02:50 pm

if i was going to get an amp modeling multi effect pedal right now, it would be the Vox Tonelab its now down to 299. A co-worker of mine got one and he says the tones are excellent i guess warming the signal with a tube does help.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Dec 02, 2004 05:24 pm

that's sweet looking. i like how the valve is prominently displayed, just chillin there. im going to see if i can try one out.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 02, 2004 11:26 pm

I guess one thing that will surely have an effect on the outcome of the sound of the POD as well as the guitar is the pickups used as well. My DiMarzio's are hot as all get out and I do notice when using Tuna's guitar it is defo a differant sound.

I think also alot of the presets are set up with single coil's and I would guess that might add to the mayhem of trying to get a patch tweaked just right.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 06, 2004 10:14 pm

OH, and I guess I missed one thing forty said.

The modelling of a tube overheating, or changing temps. Line 6 spent years developing their algorythms to emulate a tubes reactance to temp changes. Now it is defonately not perfect, but the models do emulate those changes in a fashion. I notice it especially when I play it live through speakers and go for sustain or feedback. I dont notice it so much when recording direct, but it is still there.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003

Dec 07, 2004 02:15 am

my guitar is a 1992 fender squier. the pickups have never been changed or upgraded and that means theyre 12 years old. got one humbucker on there. i have to say, i am totally deaf when it comes to pickups. i have heard much about how they really influence the sound, but differences due to pickups have never jumped out at me. not that theyre not there, but that my ear is that bad when it comes to sound quality.

Member
Since: May 15, 2004

Dec 07, 2004 04:57 am

Yes!!! I've got my PODxt 2 days ago.. I'm not being bias but I mixed a song yesterday with the distortion sounds from the PODxt- the result was really great!

When I listened through my AKG 141 headphones, I really felt like I was in a recording studio. I compared the song with the ones I recorded in the real recording studio. Hey, not much difference!

With an old Ibanez with SD Pearly Gates pickups, sadly, I did get the unwanted annoying noise in my mix from a few of Amps and Modulation settings. After I re-record by minimizing (slightly) the guitar's TONE knob, the noise was gone..

I am a happy guitarist now!!!!!!!!!

ciinx

Member
Since: May 15, 2004

Dec 07, 2004 04:58 am

And a HAPPY HOME RECORDIST too!!!!!

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002

Dec 07, 2004 06:26 am

Glad to hear it, looking forward to your continued opinion of the XT Pro...

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Dec 08, 2004 06:54 pm

what are the effects like on the pod? not the amp/cab modeling stuff but like chorus, flange. etc. do they sound really stale and digitalish? i use to own a boss gt-6 which was ok not a bad modeller but the effects were horrible, i sold it bought all separate pedals mostly analog but some digital and a line 6 AM 4 pedal for modeling which i really like.

im not a tone purist or anything like that for some reason though i cant stand the sound of digital effects especially chorus, flange and wah.

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003

Dec 08, 2004 08:59 pm

the chorus is excellent on the 2.0. i dont like the flange too much--it sounds a bit false. reverb seems ok. POD compression is really useful because things like threshold and ratio are linked and automatic. you turn up compression and the signal simply gets louder and more consistent (though i believe you can set the parameters seperately in deep editing). hmm what else. rotary sounds good enough, though i'm no expert. delay is fine. auto-wah--i dont really 'get' auto wah, though if you set POD's to a static position you get great tones as you would if you 'parked' your wah pedal. i think thats all the 2.0 has. it has a few settings that combine 2 effects. on the 2.0 you are limited to those combinations if you want more than one effect, but it hasnt been a problem for me.

clinx, you should post your song.

Member
Since: May 15, 2004

Dec 12, 2004 10:12 pm

forty,

since i've got the POD last week, i've recorded all the instruments for only two songs but not the vocals yet. I'll try to get one completed fast then I'll let you know.

yeah..flanger on xt sounds weird too...

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003

Dec 13, 2004 12:33 am

cool mang i canna wait! (scottish)

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 13, 2004 10:42 pm

xtc, I have the PODxt with it fully loaded. I have all the FX options loaded as well as all the amp/cab models. I love all the extra FX it now has. The standard FX are great as well. They have modeled many of the standard ones as close as digitally possible. Most of them react just as the analog ones did when driven to certain points. The newer FX package I added will let me make almost any noize or sound I want. I have even tweaked a patch out so I can get fairley realistic bass sound from a 6 string guitar. I can emulate a synth bass, or synth sounds for that matter and it sound pretty wholesome.

Overall, I am most pleased.

Member
Since: May 15, 2004

Dec 16, 2004 08:58 pm

Noize;

I'm wondering how the METAL PACK differ from the presets. Are they adding new Amps/Cabinet/Mic or just the same amps but with different knob tweakings?

The price is 49USD which I guess a bit expensive for me if it just knob tweakings with the same amp models.

What about the sounds? I've downloaded a few samples but I need to hear your opinion.

Thanks

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 17, 2004 11:22 pm

www.line6.com/modelPacks/podxt/home.html

Check it out here. I did the full upgrade and love it. They do add amp models into the arsenal, as well as cabs so it is a good buy for sure. I am always looking for differant sounds so for me it was well worth the price. And yes, the metal pack really adds a bit of good stuff.

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Dec 18, 2004 05:11 pm

noize,

I really like line-6's amp modelling thats why i have the am4 pedal(which is now discontinued) but for effects analog pedals cant be beat but im finding it to be a real pain finding a place for my pedal board(s) next to my computer, which is why im thinking about getting a Pod or Vox Tonelab.!

link to pics of my pedal boards

share.shutterfly.com/acti...p;sm=1&sl=0

Member
Since: May 15, 2004

Dec 19, 2004 08:26 pm

OK.. I got that. TQ man. 72 amps+84 effects; well worth buying it.

Quote:

"For PODxt and PODxt Pro owners, Model Packs dramatically expand the tone arsenal in your PODxt. Each Model Pack is a software add-on that increases your Amp or Effects set, so a fully-packed PODxt or PODxt Pro provides a total of 72 Amp Models and 84 Effect Models, including every amp and stompbox model from our flagship Vetta II and metal monster HD147."

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 20, 2004 11:30 pm

xtc, your in the same boat I was. I was also a pedal hord and thought I couldnt get by without them. The olny analog guitar gear I now own is a vintage Vox Wah-Wah and an old analog tape echo. Other then all the rack processors I dont use any outboard gear for guitar any more. I do it all with the PODxt. They have some killer stomp box FX in there now which is why I went completely to the PODxt. With alittle tweaking I can get the warm plush sound of my old Phase 90, or my old BadStone. They have emulations of all my favorite pedals in there now so I got rid of all but those last two. And the Vox wont be going anywhere any time soon as it was my original pedal from the 70's, modified to sound like Claptons wah.

The thing with the POD is if you still want to keep your guitar amp and mic the cab, you can just play the POD through it. Just remember to set all the controls to a neutral position so it doesnt color the POD''s tone. But on the other side of that, I have heard some killer tones with a POD on the front and then using the amps controls to ge even further out tone wise.

ciinx, gald ya found that page usefull. I know for me it was all the extra amp and effects packs that sold me on the whole package. I still havent dug all teh way to the bottom of them all yet.

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