Do you rate and comment on songs?
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Posted on Nov 21, 2007 07:33 pm
Bluesdues
Member Since: Apr 26, 2006
I'm just trying to bring light to an area that I think is not used enough. I am guilty of it myself and will try to make a point to change it. I see so many songs in this forum that have no rating or comment left.There are lots of places out there that will give you feedback on your music for a fee. This place gives you a chance to have other musicians give you a thumbs up or down, negative or positive feed back and its really under used. I for one may not be able to give the best technical feedback on songs. But when I think about it I do know what I like and what I don't. I'm just trying to get some conversation started on this. Lets face it musicians are selfish to some degree. Imagine playing somewhere and nobody responds to your playing thats a place I'd pay NOT to be that night. We live for the response.
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 21, 2007 09:14 pm I am kind of slow to get to it sometimes. But I do try to get to as many as I can. I know I honestly try to listen to every song that gets a thread started on it. I may miss a few that no one posts a thread on, but I try to even get to them eventually.
I haven't had a huge amount of time lately, but used to just scan through and listen to the ones that I know did not get posted to a thread.
But I have been making an effort to try and get in and listen to a couple a week that don't have thread for them.
Nov 21, 2007 09:22 pm I try to listen on weekends. I should be listening more. Thanks for the reminder and some good points, Bluesdues. Since this is the start of a long weekend, I'll take the hint and listen to some tonight.
By the way, my stuff rocks and yours really needs work!
[size=4]LOL[/size]
Nov 21, 2007 09:49 pm Big thank you to you Noize,I left a remark on your guest page. Perhaps your remarks helped to get this whole thought started in the first place.
Nov 21, 2007 09:50 pm Bluesdues, I left a comment for ya.
I like your work. Let's hear more!
Nov 21, 2007 09:50 pm LOL, herb I guess I will be taking a listen to your stuff real soon.
Nov 21, 2007 09:53 pm Don't bother man. My best work isn't fit for this web site.
Nov 21, 2007 09:54 pm Well, I mean it's... never mind..
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 21, 2007 10:04 pm You will find Herbs stuff, entertaining shall we say.
Anyway, ya I got the comment. And thank you. I have been lucky enough to have learned from so many that I consider to be the best. And been influenced by so many more. I figured this is one way I can give something back.
I as well took about a 10 year hiatus from making or doing anything but listening to music. The occasional jam would come up and I would participate with kind of a jaded guilt. Then it hit me that it is something I really enjoyed and could not stay away any longer. My wife doesn't really support it but puts up with it.
I've handed my influences on to my kids as well. Only one of my 4 boyz actually plays, but they all are very open to anything musical, and the two younger ones, 14 and 17 do on occasion play ever so slightly. the 17 year old has an ear for sound and has helped me on many occasion when I get stuck especially in the sound design stuff.
But indeed, I started with a blues rock base and went on from there. And now I can honestly say I will listen to anything and enjoy most of it. From Spider John to Slipknot. It all has its good and bad points.
But this place keeps me going and involved. I would be lost without it as I'm sure many others would be as well.
Like the movie, pay it forward. I kind of feel I owe it to those who need it.
But indeed, this is a cool thread to have started. Hopefully it will put a bug in many members ear.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 21, 2007 10:06 pm Herb, not matter what. Your stuff has a great deal of value to those who have been there and done that. Especially the things to shout at the band onstage. I do miss that one.
Nov 21, 2007 10:11 pm Herb that was recorded on a tascam 8 track cassette, the bass had a mic. I don't know enough about software to know about the settings. I just transfered those cassette recordings over and tried to mix them down. And about your tunes, lets just say I would have liked to have been jamming with you on (I know a little about (Trombone) )sounded like fun.
Nov 21, 2007 10:41 pm Quote:
Especially the things to shout at the band onstage. I do miss that one.
Noize, if you missed the download on How to Request a Song from the Band I can shoot it to you.
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I would have liked to have been jamming with you on (I know a little about (Trombone) )sounded like fun.
Beyond fun. There were countless moments in my playing career that were priceless. Fortunately for me, I had a cassette running much of the time. UNfortunately, a lot of it is less-than-audiophile quality now.
I've been through the old cassettes and managed to save the "best of the worst" of it to digital.
The main things I've learned about recording are:
Save your master recordings at the highest tape speed/sample rate/bitrate possible and archive all you can immediately. Burn CDs and lots of 'em. Blanks are cheap.
[archaic]For tape recordings, keep them away from cars and sunshine! Most of my prized cassettes were destroyed in the summertime.[/archaic]
Remember where they are. Write it down. If you think you may forget where they are, tell someone else where to find them in case you become too drunk, old, or stupid to remember for yourself. Your heirs may be interested.
Nov 21, 2007 11:11 pm I have about 60-70 tapes I'm going to go through song starts, live recordings etc. All on 8 track cassette. I'm sure it will be fun. And thanks for the pointers, I'll be copying the good stuff to CD.
Nov 22, 2007 12:47 am Whoa was herb the one that did the band shout out thing. That was AWSOME. Seems to me every band in America would be willing to by that thing to play for break time..........that was high quality stuff.
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Nov 22, 2007 02:58 am I don't do it nearly enough, but I do try and leave a rating/comment as often as can. I've left more ratings than comments, I should probably try and reverse that. :)
Dan
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
Nov 22, 2007 08:59 am I listen as much as i can.
I often note new songs and know i will get to them sooner or later.
I'm drawn toward regulars music more than most in terms of that which i will comment on, but i WILL eventually get to everyone.
...I've only got ONE comment in my guest book ... :(
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Nov 22, 2007 09:28 am I'd say I'm about 50% when it comes to comments. I try to comment on everything I listen to but sometimes it just doesn't happen. I listen to a lot here however.
Izzy Dutch'The Flying Dutchman'Member
Since: Jan 11, 2006
Nov 22, 2007 12:48 pm This might be a stupid question, but how do I rate songs? Cause I see some tracks at 'Most Recent Music Submissions' for example and they're rated but I can't find the rate button.. just the comments
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Nov 22, 2007 01:03 pm Just click on the stars. Won't show up on your own though.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 22, 2007 01:48 pm Herb, ya I could have sworn I had it but can't seem to find it. That would be great. Also, check your email in a bit. Something very strange happened yesterday.
And indeed, the old cassette set ups were great. We actually had a 4 track and then 8 track reel to reel as well. But I have tons of cassette that are in need of being transfered as it is all old stuff even back to my early teens and possibly pre teen stuff. So it will be well worth it to sort em out for a good chuckle.
But ya, like Bluesdues stuff is very appealing to me because of the sound and the feel of the live thing. As are others here who have the same thing going. But Bluesdues is ripping blues rock and it just gets me going, foot tapping and toe stompin.
Nov 22, 2007 02:45 pm In another forum I used to be well known as a detailed reviewer that was appreciated by some and not by others. However as time went on I realized that for most this was just a bedroom hobby and it can be very deflating to spend your available free time on something only to have others criticize it.
This led me to realize that music is not a competition (or shouldn't be) and the whole concept of reviewing and especially rating, home recorded songs is very much against my personal ethos.
Where that gets a little more sketchy is if someone is either making a demo for an attempt to really make it or if someone is looking for a review of professional studio work or technique so they can learn.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 22, 2007 03:07 pm I try to always use constructive criticism, and only comment on the positive. If a singer needs to practice more I will state that as well as kindly as possible. I'm pretty open about being honest and I think a lot of folks would rather have it shaken out with honesty then just sugar coated goodness. If I like a piece but think the drums suck I will state to work on the drums and how.
I honestly believe if they put it up here to be listened to and are asking us what we think, they are prepared to hear the good and the bad.
Nov 22, 2007 06:41 pm A pat on the back for something is always great, but constructive criticism with honesty can bring improvement. Beerhunter is a great example of someone that has some songs that are basically flawless. But he seems to always reach for the next improvement. Well I guess thats how you get to the flawless point.
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Nov 26, 2007 11:33 am Man, I try my best to listen to songs by those people here that post regularly and are a part of the community. I (mostly) refuse to listen to songs by people who don't contribute anything. I feel you have to give love to get love, so if you're not commenting on other people's songs, I don't feel like commenting on yours. That's just me. If I do listen to a song, I will always comment on it, unless I find it absolutely hiddeous, and can't find anything nice to say about it. I try and take a similar approach to Noize, and constructively criticize. I don't always rate, only about half the time....
With that being said, I love listening to HRC member music, in general. I have some stuff from way back that still gets play. Its great!
Also, with that being said, I understand people 'round here don't get to my stuff too often as it's not there cup of tea, genre wise... but I've come to live with it.
GregorMember
Since: Jan 08, 2004
Nov 26, 2007 07:55 pm I just noticed a 1/10 rating on the song I put up. If you're going to give a rating like that at least have some balls and let me know why. I was looking for feedback on the recording not the actual song.
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Nov 27, 2007 01:02 pm Eh, no offense gregor, but that post for some reason had me cracking up.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 27, 2007 04:49 pm Ya, I've gotten lotsa negative ratings in my lifetime. Nothing to get worked up over. I used to, them realized it was their loss, not mine. And some peep's just don't get it. While that track is not my cup of tea vocal wise, I think I had commented on the mix in a thread before. And the mix is really pretty good, so I don't know what someone would be booing for. Maybe just a bad fat fingered click. Once ya click ya can't go back.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Nov 27, 2007 07:10 pm Gregor: I just rated your posting higher than '1', and the weirdest thing happened... it didn't change from '1' .
Bahahaha !!!!!! You guys are killin' me !!!
Nov 27, 2007 08:38 pm well, my 'surf box' as Noize calls it currently has no audio going in or comming out of it....i think it's a mobo issue and i've pretty much given up on it, as i've tried three separate soundcards on it and none have worked. so i'm pretty much 'deaf' when it comes to surfing the net....i hate it sometimes.
so yeah i rarely listen to posted music (nothing personal against anyone, i simply can't)....and i don't post recordings up cuz usually i don't get permission from the ppl i record....either they say "no" or i just don't ask....as for my own stuff, well all i have is older projects, that i've pretty much 'given up on'....not that i'm quitting, i'm just done tweaking them, and don't really care to go back and fix crap that i did a few years ago.....i guess i could post a few up though.
Nov 27, 2007 09:27 pm WYD I was really looking forward to hearing some of your stuff, after I heard "Hanger 19", some real nice bass playing there. Actually that whole thing was great. At any rate I'm glad to see a little awareness being shown. I for one will place a little more effort forward.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Nov 27, 2007 09:37 pm You'll also find that Magnificent bastard on Smashville in my profile... I'm surprised he doesn't have it in his ! : p
Is it THAT bad, Chris ?
Nov 27, 2007 09:41 pm hehe, nah man, i'm uploading some stuff right now in my profile for those who are interested...i'm mostly limited to my older recordings that are already on this computer...
oh, hue, i got your dvd!!! watched it with a few buds the other night, laughed our butts off on the Swamp Women from Prison...good stuff man!
Nov 27, 2007 09:42 pm man, i'm not sure i have much of my bass playing recorded! i gotta hit my bud in florida for that stuff....i'm gonna call him right now.
Nov 27, 2007 09:44 pm crap he's out of town for the next two weeks! DOH! i've got some sweet chops on his stuff, all original.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Nov 27, 2007 09:48 pm Much props to your chops on Smashville ! Everything was put together so quickly... then we changed everything at the last second... BIG fun, bud !
Nov 27, 2007 10:04 pm thanks man! i'm gonna hafta listen to that again, it's been a long time since i pulled it out.....i'm fiddin' to put up some christmas music i recorded here in the next few mins.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 27, 2007 10:28 pm Speaking of Christmas music. I am about ready to start putting up the digital Christmas tune again this year. Only there will be a catch to it this year. But all you HRC Pro guys are in the clear.
More on that later.
WYD, I can't wait to hear what you did for Christmas music!
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 28, 2007 12:27 pm Dude, I started with the electronica tune, you need to make it downloadable, I so want that in my player......
I'll be listening to the others after i get back from taking Ray to the dentist.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 28, 2007 02:17 pm I'll post in the other thread on the other tunes. Great stuff though!
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Nov 28, 2007 03:13 pm I got a 7 on my latest (and only posted song). I did put that it was a rough draft record on the fly. I wish I knew if that rating was based on songwriting or the mix though :)
Nov 28, 2007 03:14 pm I had a multi-dimensional rating system a while back and people bitched they wanted a simple 1-10 rating system...so now I give that and people ***** they don't like the new one...
****.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Nov 28, 2007 03:27 pm I like the simple 1-10, I just wish people left comments more often as to why they chose as they did. Nothing on your end though... unless... you make comments required to score a song! Just an idea.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Nov 28, 2007 05:42 pm That really is the polite way, anyway... eh ? If you're going to openly judge something, the thought's that brought you to your conclusion should be evident and supporting of your 'opinion(s)', thus allowing the 'rated' to at least have some insight as what frame of mind the rating was derived from, and therefore ensue vallidity to it's content .
I've wondered how the rating goes here, as well, but I do 'trust' the poeple who take the time to go through the trouble of critically listening to someone elses song(s) . That is a tallent within itself .
Nov 28, 2007 07:57 pm I have seen reference to something I have questioned myself a few times. And that is the is it a recording or a song rating or a combination of both. I suppose that could all be dealt with in the comments. I have always tended to lean toward rating the recording( it is HRC ). But I suppose bias could slip in when you hear a personal preference.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 28, 2007 10:10 pm For me if I use the star rating, (which I like the 1 - 10 thing myself) I always make it an overall rating. If not I will state so in the comments.
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Nov 29, 2007 01:51 am I use the rating as an overall as well, with the song itself carrying more weight though. Doesn't matter how good the recording is if I don't care for the song and likewise I wouldn't down rate a good song because recording wasn't that great. :) I usually leave a comment though as well if I rate a song.
Dan
