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Feb 14, 2006 02:44 pm BWAHAHAHA !
brokeback to the future
Feb 14, 2006 04:51 pm I wish that is what I saw the other night with the girlfriend, rather than the real film...
Feb 14, 2006 05:12 pm hehehe, for all the aledged "critical acclaim", awards and all that, it's doing very poorly at the box office last I saw...it's just being pushed on us by hollywood libs...
Feb 14, 2006 05:34 pm i sure as heck ain't gonna ever see it....
pinko
Feb 14, 2006 06:27 pm Yeah, sure you wont . 'Prolly take a day off work and sit around with a bottle of white merlot and a box of tissues, when it comes out on DVD .
Watching it over, and over, and over...
; P
Feb 14, 2006 10:43 pm For Petes sake anyway. :-)
Feb 15, 2006 01:51 am i dont believe the movie has anything to do with liberals. its just a movie. its a story, its a new twist on an old story, controversy sells, hollywood knows it does. it doesnt have anything to do with some agenda to indoctrinate people to anything.
Feb 15, 2006 08:02 am It is just a movie, that's not the problem, it's the scam behind it that is the problem. It isn't selling, but they sure as hell are trying. It is being nominated for loads of awards and being falsely marketed as a huge hit and all that crap...it has made, based on the box office stats I just looked at, about 1/4 the box office gross of the top films of the year, being absolutely destroyed by high quality cinema like Big Momma's House 2 and Curious George. Yet none of the movies beating it are being seen in most of the nominations.
I would lay pretty good odds that this movie cleans up at awards shows all year regardless of it being a bomb, just to be able to keep shoving it down people's throats. Hollywood is liberal, and it is using their influence to further their agenda. Which, ultimately is their right to do, it's just not something that I am going to give them my $7 to go see and support...
I know you won't agree, we never agree, but that's how I see it.
Feb 15, 2006 12:03 pm i don't think the awards should be based on sales, unless it's a catagory such as "biggest net sales" or whatever....if sales reflected who gets awarded, it'd take away some of the meaning, and force movie makers to make movies more appealing to a wider audiance. the oscars and grammy's are handed out by peers in the industry (as it should be)....and just because something bombs at the box office, dosn't make it a lesser movie.....it just means ppl didn't go out to see it. some movies are better to watch at home than on the big screne.......
can you immagine the backstreet boys getting an award for lifetime achievement because they made millions?
and frankly, i don't consider Big Momma's House 'high qality cinema' if i were judging by plot, dialogue, photography, and audio. i see it billed tward a wider, more generic audiance, and therefore, more profitable. in the worlds of art, i rate heart above profitability, and i guarentee BBM's creators had alot more heart in that movie than the makers of BMH.
and it's in that vein, why i can understand BBM gettin' all these awards. but i still ain't gonna watch it.
Feb 15, 2006 12:10 pm oh, come on WYD, "high quality cinema" was likely the most sarcastic thing I have said to date...if you really think I meant Big Momma's House is high quality cinema, I suggest you put that pipe down...
This is America, and capitalist society, while you may not agree (and I don't always either) what is the basic measure of success? sales...and, if they don't base it on that, which you are right, it's not the only way to judge value, why then is it 90% of the rest of the time...
Feb 15, 2006 12:10 pm generally overtly sexual dramatic movies always bomb at the box office because people don't want to be seen watching them... however DVD sales tend to be higher because it's private.
Feb 15, 2006 12:11 pm now that is interesting...never thought about that...
Feb 15, 2006 12:59 pm heh, I can't believe he thought you were serious.
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and frankly, i don't consider Big Momma's House 'high qality cinema' if i were judging by plot, dialogue, photography, and audio
hee hee
Feb 15, 2006 01:00 pm me thinks WYD was hittin the bong a bit early today...
kids, don't do drugs m'kay...
Feb 15, 2006 01:12 pm lol i totally missed the sarcasm on that!
and btw i missed my wake n' bake session this mournin' cuz i was runnin' a bit late to work.
perhaps that's why i'm not all together
Feb 15, 2006 01:13 pm oh, so the problem was lack of hitting the bong, gotchya
Feb 15, 2006 03:55 pm I just can't see a similar movie with a straight couple really getting all of this attention. It is clearly the ballsy approach of a homosexual premise which invigorates sympathetic libs to hype the movie and discrace the awards. I am confident in my word choice "discrace" because I can't even imagine a straight love movie being so great that it would sweep the awards like BBM. I have loved a few box office flops in my day and no mention of those great films were present.
Feb 15, 2006 04:07 pm Chick flicks in just not my cup of tea. Oh wait, this is a d**k flick hahaha. Either way, still not my thing.
Feb 15, 2006 04:09 pm "know you won't agree, we never agree, but that's how I see it."
--now thats not true, db. one time we agreed on something.
"oh, come on WYD, "high quality cinema" was likely the most sarcastic thing I have said to date...if you really think I meant Big Momma's House is high quality cinema, I suggest you put that pipe down..."
--lol
i guess i think that movies that have the full package of requisite features kind of often end up on awards lists. a nominee has got to have something of an all-star cast. its got to be heavily dramatic/weepy. it has to have a sense of itself as being 'important.' a self-proclaimed 'i am art--you must watch me because i am important' feel to it. (just listen for the sweeping music and watch for the grand dissolves and fades in the movie trailer to see if a film qualifies for that last trait.)
Feb 15, 2006 04:34 pm Well, OK, we both hoped the steelers would win the super bowl...but we disagreed on if they actually would or not...
Feb 15, 2006 07:38 pm I saw it last week and I thought it was pretty good. The story was great.
Feb 15, 2006 08:07 pm no, db, i think we agreed on maybe 2 other things once, too.
lol
Feb 15, 2006 09:27 pm Well zek stated the overtly sexual movies always bomb.
Can you say, American Pie and American Wedding. And what about all those B movies that made tons of money being nothing but sexually overt.
Feb 16, 2006 01:21 pm Same thing can be said for the tv show Comander and Chief. That show has been hyped beyond belief and it so being done to get the sheep in this country ready mentally for a female scum bag democratic candidate named Hillary.
AFA BBM...it only proves that the hollywood libs have a total agenda wanting to justify a lifestyle that most folks in this country feel is a behavioral problem and not natural. Box office numbers prove it. The libs hated and passed on "The Passion of The Christ" but look at how that movie made a bazillion dollars and won next to nothing.
Feb 16, 2006 01:23 pm OK, now, I dunno who the hell this new guy is around here, but I do have to say, he is a welcome addition...I like this guy...I feel very, very alone sometimes in my views, it's nice to have someone saying the same sort of things sometimes.
well, not in the brokeback kinda way, but, well, ya'll know what I mean.
I do feel the same thing about Commander and Chief but unfortunately, I actually kinda like the show itself, not the agenda, but the show.
God save us if Hillary gets in the Oval Office...
Feb 16, 2006 02:32 pm HAHAHA...Glad you finally got some back up here! I dont mind a little political debating especially if the person on the other end isnt an over emotional moron and actually knows the "facts" via reasearch and not CNN soundbites!
Feb 16, 2006 02:35 pm One mans facts is another mans pain in the ***.
Feb 16, 2006 03:36 pm i dont see any hype for commander in chief. its a tv show i heard about in passing. ads for it do not assault my senses, friends dont talk about it, ive not seen gina davis or whoever it is on talk shows. ive seen virtually nothing about it. and i have a tv or radio on at all times.
think youre imagining that. if you listen to a lot of republican radio, as i do, it would be easy to mistake the ravings of michael savage as referring to some sort of objective truth. but the truth is that commander in cheif is hyped no more than, say, 24. or any show.
Feb 16, 2006 04:40 pm Not any more it's not, but I have to say, around here (not in your area) I was hearing about it all the time, Gina Davis has been on loads of talk shows, including, as I recall Oprah, and a few other chick type talk shows (yeah, I work at home sometimes I get to hear overspill of some of that drivel). So perhaps it was different from place to place. I live in a blue state (only because of blue twin cities) so perhaps coverage is different.
And Michael Savage is my hero.
Feb 16, 2006 04:49 pm i dig the guy who does his bumper music, big metallica fan...and i'd be willing to bet he's a stoner too, judging by some of the music he plays.
i've got this mental picture of Mike with a philly cheesesteak smeared all over his shirt and he has a heartattack live on the radio, he just gets so worked up sometimes, i gotta laugh.
what's he dooin' in San Fransisco anyway?
SAVAGE
Feb 16, 2006 05:07 pm Yeah, why he chooses to live where he does I don't get, but, I suppose it's constant material for his show, I have his first two books, haven't gotten the third yet...he odes express himself a bit over the edge, over the top, but on the whole I agree with his stances on a vast majority of what he says.
Feb 16, 2006 05:22 pm i perfer Bill O'Reilly over Savage, if i were a lib, oh wait i am, i sure wouldn't wanna go on his show....man can back his stuff up like no other.
Feb 16, 2006 05:23 pm I don't mind Bill O'Reilly, I listen to him, but I don't get the feeling that he walks with the talk, Savage I think does.
Feb 16, 2006 07:13 pm I said overtly sexual dramatic movies... american pie is a comedy... american beauty if I remember right isn't terribly sexual... it's just a guy with a fantasy.
American Beauty:
Released in US September 15, 1999 (limited)
Total US Gross $130,058,047
Production Budget $15,000,000
Worldwide Gross $347,100,000
No Advertising budget stats
American Pie:
Released in US July 9, 1999
Total US Gross $101,800,948
Production Budget $12,000,000
Prints and Advertising Budget $25,000,000
Worldwide Gross $234,800,000
American Wedding:
Released in US August 1, 2003
Total US Gross $104,354,205
Production Budget $55,000,000
Prints and Advertising Budget $30,000,000
Worldwide Gross $126,425,115
X-Men
Released in US July 14, 2000
Total US Gross $157,299,717
Production Budget $75,000,000
Prints and Advertising Budget $23,000,000
Worldwide Gross $294,900,000
X-Men2
Released in US May 2, 2003
Total US Gross $214,948,780
Production Budget $125,000,000
Prints and Advertising Budget $50,000,000
Worldwide Gross $406,399,599
Showgirls
Released in US September 22, 1995
Total US Gross $20,254,932
Production Budget $40,000,000
Brokeback Mountain
Released in US December 9, 2005 (limited)
Total US Gross $67,416,000
Production Budget $13,000,000
Worldwide Gross $98,916,000
Feb 16, 2006 07:54 pm Sean Hannity is my favorite. O'Reilly is my second favorite tied pretty close with Joe Scarborough.
I wish O'Reilly would have torn David Letterman to pieces. Only a lib would say (paraphrasing Dave) "I think everything you say is bullcrap" and then admit he never watched the show.
Feb 17, 2006 02:26 am i listen to savage all the time with a curious mixture of emotions. hes one of the 'smarter' deranged, hate-filled overgeneralizers. hes funny. hes insane. its hard not to listen to him.
occasionally i will agree with him, but more often than not i think he is an extraordinarily dangerous man.
Feb 17, 2006 07:24 am I don't find him to be insane at all. While his show does go over the top (kinda the purpose of a talk radio show) I find him to be incredible sane and I like the fact he generalizes when he does, because sometimes it's necessary. I really feel, at times, the gov't in it's governing wisdom, does over-think and over-analyze problems that could well be handled with a simple answer that sits straight in front of it. I think that is what Savage does. I wish more people were filled with the passion, and quite frankly, the balls, that this guy is.
I have found his books to be great reading. I am personally not a book reader, actually I rarely read books unless they are referrence books for a programming language or something, but his firtst two I read cover to cover quickly...the third I have to get one of these days. I enjoy what he says and feel glad somebody feels the way I do and has the platform on which to say it. Intolerence and following ones convictions does not equal "hate-filled".
Borders, Language, Culture.
God Bless America.
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