sonar question

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Member Since: Dec 29, 2004

Iv read through the manuals but i still cant get a grasp on exactly what the recording and playback meters are telling me. If the Recording meter goes over 0.0 or -0.0 is that distorting? It never seems to go over that though. The playback meter however does go over. What is a safe level to record at and what is the loudest i can fade up the volume on the playback and boost the signal with plugins before its too much.

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Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Jun 07, 2005 11:22 am

just don't go to 0.0 (clipping) durring recording and playback, and you'll be set. if the meter turns red, back off a bit.

Dork
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Since: Jul 25, 2004


Jun 07, 2005 08:45 pm

I like to record with average signal level about 12, and very little to no red line peaks. While the meter will show a peak when it hits all the way to the top, that is not neccesarily meaning the signal will clip. From what I understand there is a bout a 3Db buffer between the top peak and actually clipping. That said, don't believe you can or should record in the red. You want to leave yourself plenty of headroom for mixing.

Dork
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Since: Jul 25, 2004


Jun 08, 2005 02:32 am

My bad. I meant -12 on the recording meter whil recording.

eeeeeeemo.
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Since: Oct 30, 2003


Jun 08, 2005 06:32 am

when people refer to leaving headroom for mixing - does that mean you might (for example) record every signal at -12, then that allows you to increase the tracks you want more prominent closer to 0dB?

Dork
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Since: Jul 25, 2004


Jun 08, 2005 10:14 am

That's exactly what I mean. I know other folks here record the signal hotter, but -12 is what I have found works for me. I peak higher, but thats were I try to set the meat an potatos.

When I mix, it gives me plenty of room to bring what may be a quiet sounding part louder without maxing it out.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jun 08, 2005 10:16 am

I usually record much hotter than that. I can't exactly what level, but I do know it's way hotter, I prefer to turn down loud tracks than turn up quiet ones. Turning up quiet ones also means any noise on the track gets turned up as well.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Jun 08, 2005 01:26 pm

when i tracked on a VS-2480, i noticed the meters stayed around -12 for vocals bass and guitars, and they peaked at -2 or so...i liked the meat and potatoes remark!!! i usually call it RMS hehe

Dork
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Since: Jul 25, 2004


Jun 10, 2005 02:32 pm

Heh, I work in the software industry and I am soo sick of all the abbreviations for everything. It's like a secret code. If you ever hear two engineers talking about work, you swear you missed a language class somewhere.

I only recently began to understand what RMS truly is myself.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Jun 10, 2005 02:40 pm

rms means Root Mean Square aka 'average' or precieved volume, we don't usually hear peaks as 'loudness' because they are too fast.

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