Jan 03, 2005 09:50 am Well, you goals are kinda shrinking aren't they? Didn't you want 8 inputs at first, then 4, now 2?
To answer your question, if you only want two ins, yes, the 2222 will work fine.
UB2442FX-Pro VS UB222FX-Pro
Posted on Jan 03, 2005 09:35 am
ZX6R1033
Perdido
Member Since: Dec 15, 2004
If I go with a sound card that only has Two inputs... such as the E-mu 0404 of the M-Audio Delta 410, Both mixers will do what I want them to. Both of them have enough channels for my purpose. Are there any other differences between them that would steer me away from the UB222FX?
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Jan 03, 2005 09:50 am Well, you goals are kinda shrinking aren't they? Didn't you want 8 inputs at first, then 4, now 2?
To answer your question, if you only want two ins, yes, the 2222 will work fine.
Jan 03, 2005 09:51 am I may be wrong, but I think those mixers are two big for only two inputs on the sound card. But answering your question, the main difference between those two is the fact that the 2442 has 8 independent outs from the mics inputs, which is great to match bigger soundcards, as the delta 1010.
Jan 03, 2005 09:53 am Previously he had said he needed 8 mono inputs, which that series has.
There really isn't such a thing as "too big" for a given sound card...there is such a thing as "too small" however.
Jan 03, 2005 10:11 am My goals are not shrinking, I am becomming less technically challanged. I was looking for 8 tracks... not 8 inputs. that was cleared up in Dbs second post to me a while ago. I want the ability to record 8 mono sources at the same time. as far as the inputs to the sound card, (these are called busses, right?) i only need a left channel and a right channel.
Jan 03, 2005 10:16 am Ah, OK, I understand now.
The busses are the outputs of the mixer, not the inputs of the card, but regardless, you have the idea.
Just be aware, that when you record those 8 channels (which is still too much for what you are doing in my opinion) once they are mixed down to a left and right 2 track format, there is no more separating them, they are forever mixed.
Jan 03, 2005 10:22 am most of the time, I can live with that. I will only be recording one instrument at a time. I think I can live with one single mix when I have someone else playing with me too. the most that I anticipate at one time is 2 people. If I use your suggested 5-mic setup for the kit, this means 6 tracks at a time. But, things never go as planned, which is when it would be good to have the ability to record 12 mono tracks at a time (which the UB2222FX is capable of.)
The specs say 8 XLR, 10 IMP inputs, 12 total mono inputs. This would be fine for me from what I have read.
When refering to the output of the mixer, or "Bus", does this refer to 2 channels, or just 1 mono channel?
Jan 03, 2005 10:25 am it's an output, whether used as stereo mono or whatever is your usage of it or how the mixer sets it up. typically they count each mono output as one bus or stereo pairs as 2 because it can be used as such.
Jan 04, 2005 08:57 am This is probably the best place for this question, since it follows the previous discussion.
I am reading the PDF download file of the UB222FX and the UB2442FX and there are a few things I dont understand.
First off, Db explained yesterday that TRS is a balanced 1/4" jack. The picture of the back of the 2442FX shows a left channel and a right channel for the main out, but the book says these are TRS Balanced. The manual makes no refrence to the Subouts, but the picture shows 8, and I know this piece only has 4, so I am also assuming those are unbalanced?
Jan 04, 2005 09:03 am If they are balanced the manual will say so, if they are unbalanced they just won't say anything. It's safe to assume they are unbalanced.
Jan 04, 2005 09:11 am as for the main outs? picture shows VERY clearly... Left and Right. But the manual says TRS Balanced. What Am I missing?
Copied from the Manual:
Main outputs Type XLR, Electronically balanced and 1/4" TRS Balanced
Picture:
www.behringer.com/02_prod...FX&type=210
Jan 04, 2005 09:15 am The XLR main outs are balanced, perhaps the 1/4" are as well, I am guessing all the other 1/4" are unbalanced.
jeezuz, what an illogical setup back there...
I dunno what the 8 outs are for with the subs, maybe each of the 4 subgroups are actually a stereo pair, that'd be neat...
Jan 04, 2005 09:19 am Stereo pair as in 1 left 1 right, or as in 2 stereo plugs in the same subgroup? that would be awesome.
Jan 04, 2005 09:20 am yeah, it sure as hell would be, but I doubt it, I just can't think of what else those 8 oputs would be for...but then, it's early...I'm tired...
Jan 04, 2005 09:21 am haha, and I have been sitting at my work desk for about an hour and a half now. I pick the worst times to ask tech questions, dont I?
Jan 04, 2005 09:27 am On the same note...
you could very well be right about the stereo pair, as the UB222FX has 2 subouts, and only two plugs.
www.behringer.com/02_prod...FX&type=210
Jan 04, 2005 09:29 am interesting...go for the 2442...Noize2u has an older MX2442, maybe he can tell us what they are, I just don't have time to look around and find it right now...
Jan 04, 2005 06:05 pm I gotta agree that UB2442 back is very confusing for sure. It appears as though the sub out groups can be routed either to the right or left, ie: sub out 1 acutally hs 2 routing outputs that would corrispond on the badk to outputs 1/5, sub out 2 would be outputs 2/6 and so on. Very confusing to say the least. I am guessing but it would probably corrispond to the left and right of each main channel so if you select subgroup out 1/2 it will actually give you 4 options for output.
I am guessing they are trying to pack as much into as little realestate as possible and just give as many routing options as possible as well.
As for the sub out question of balanced or not. They are not balanced outputs. You wont see sub group outputs balanced untill you get into the very expensive mixing desks as it is not cheap to wire them that way.
Hope this help some ZX. LEt me know if you have any other questions.
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