Voice effects
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Posted on Apr 27, 2004 08:16 am
Mauz
grrrrrrr
Member Since: Mar 29, 2004
Hey guys. Hope you all are well. I am wondering of someone can suggest a good effects box for voice. Just like some reverb, delay and maybe some wacko stuff for a live show. I am forming a band and I guess I will be the lead singer. I am into having some sort of effects box. Maybe I will use the pod xt, but my guitarist might need it until he gets the pro version (which is top on his wish list).
Any suggestions? Can I go mic> effect box > mixer preamp?
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TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Apr 27, 2004 09:57 am You know, I just read an article in the last Musician's Friend about a floor unit geared towards vocals...I think it was from Boss. Lemme see if I can dig up an online link...
...here we go, it's from Digitech actually.
www.musiciansfriend.com/s...nt/doc_id=92561
Of course, like most of their hands-on reviews, MF gets a little propaganda-ish with this, so take the glowing review with a grain of salt. But it does sound like a pretty cool little box.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Apr 27, 2004 11:53 pm I've got a Behringer virtulizer pro. Only piece of gear I don't use. Mega confusing to me. Each button has two billion functions depending where you are in the menu sequence. I have doodle putsed with it a little and it makes a lot of strange noises however. Definately better effects than standard come with on a small PA system. Not expensive either. Basicly another 100 buck quickie from Berry. So if you are into button menu dungens and dragons..... Wahoo! Oops sorry edit Whoohoo. (gender correctness necessary)
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Apr 28, 2004 01:14 am Quote:
"has two billion functions depending where you are in the menu sequence"
... sounds like my kind of gear there, Walt ! lol
MauzgrrrrrrrMember
Since: Mar 29, 2004
Apr 28, 2004 03:08 am Really cool guys. This is definetely my next buy!
MauzgrrrrrrrMember
Since: Mar 29, 2004
Apr 28, 2004 11:55 am What are your guy's thoughts on voice effects? Why dont people use them that much? I think they can be really cool and I'm sure will make a wicked impact on a live show.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Apr 29, 2004 12:02 am My biggest problem with them are that they are one more level of complexity and expense. EQ and possibly a little reverb to shore up a singer for all songs performed are no problem. When it comes to switching them in and out, changing peramaters during a song, etc. then it is a real chore. Sometimes a real good board person can do a lot of that if the band is equiped to that degree, but it takes a pretty good paying venue to make monitary sense out of that kind of equipment and personnel.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 09, 2004 10:51 pm Mauz, you would be surprised to see what some of the big name bands use on their voices. Take a look at all the speed metal bands out there with those throaty nast sounding mega bass voices. You dont really think they sound like that for real do you? They are using distortioin boxes, pitch shifters and singal processors up the wazoo. Voice processing was big in the late 70's and early 80's. And was very big when it came time for the trance and ambient scene to add lush vocal sounds to their stuff.
But it is used very subtly by most. I personally love it when a vocal track is thought of and treated like it was just another instrument. To me that is a wonderfull thing to do. I did several tracks for an asian band last year who's vocalist was not real good, but was not real bad either. So for sanity's sake I blended his voice up with some nice chorus and a very lush echoing reverb and he ended up sonding like he was just one of the instruments in the mix. And they loved it, got them a record deal infact with a small label. The producer emailed and asked how I did it. Neadless to say, I dont reveal secrets unless there is money involved so he had to figure it out on his own.
MauzgrrrrrrrMember
Since: Mar 29, 2004
May 10, 2004 02:41 am Have sort of decided to take a step back and do a project of very simple songs and crazy effects will not be coherent. But on future projects I will get back to you Noize to try and pry your secrets from you...
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 10, 2004 12:32 pm I religiously tweak vox with reverb, eq, a vocoder, a little distortion, and compression... and those are just the basics. I've added tap delay, pitch shifting, panning effects, stutters...
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
May 10, 2004 12:39 pm Quote:
Neadless to say, I dont reveal secrets unless there is money involved so he had to figure it out on his own.
lets hope he doesnt read hrc...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 11, 2004 10:01 pm That is the truth Flame. I think some of us have given up many old secrets over these years here at HRC. But giving em up here is worth it. Giving them to that knot head ws not as he was a jerk, and I felt kinda ripped off as I didnt charge em enough to do the demo. Oh well, I never saw the record available anywhere.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 11, 2004 10:09 pm Oh ya Walt concerning the Virtualizer Pro, I use it and go in via midi to edit most of the settings. It is so much easier. You can get the editing program on Behringers website. I also built a control panel in Cakewalk to run the majority of it and change most settings.
