Live or dead room? Vocals? Drums?

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Member Since: Feb 03, 2003

I've ready so many different opinions on what kinds of rooms to record in.

With vocals, some people like to record in a closet with blankets on the walls to kill all reverb. Others say record in your bathroom because the reverb from the tiles will make the tracks fuller.

With drums I've ALWAYS heard to record in a dry room, but I watched that Metallica DVD I posted about a few days back, and they went to extremes to keep the room from being dry. They basically took apart the studio, taking all the padding off the walls. That wasn't enough for them, so they went out and bought plywood and hung it up infront of the dead areas. Bob Rock said it really helped them get their big sound.


Your thoughts?

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...bringing sexy back
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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Mar 12, 2004 12:22 pm

depends if youre trying to get a live sound, a good dry studio sound or what...horses for courses.


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Since: Dec 23, 2003


Mar 12, 2004 12:53 pm

It could get 100 different opinions from 100 different people on this one. I personally like the sound of a big open room with some natural reverb on both drums and lead vocals. Sometimes it's nice to texture the lead vocal with the backups done in a small isolation room.

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Mar 12, 2004 12:55 pm

small and dead.

...bringing sexy back
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Mar 12, 2004 01:04 pm

i always do the backing track pretty much dead, and reverb al over the vocals. too much reverb on the instrumental bit itself wil just make it sound muddy ive found

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Mar 12, 2004 01:06 pm

small and dead, you can always fatten things up, but you cant unfatten the basic recording....

...bringing sexy back
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Mar 12, 2004 01:08 pm

is very sound advice...

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Mar 12, 2004 01:13 pm

Gotta agree, so many ways to approach things. I personally like a large room for drums regardless of wet or dry. They "breath" better. If I am recording either to fit into a piece where other instruments are being recorded at another location, dry is best so ambiance can be added later to match things up. Outside of that, for me it is all a matter of taste. Sometimes I do wet some times dry.

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Since: Dec 30, 2002


Mar 12, 2004 02:21 pm

For a small home / private studio - small, dead and under control

If you have the budget, and know what you are after (and how to achieve it) then a large wooden chamber will yeild some awsome results - but bear in mind, you can't get a "dry" sound from such a recording.

jues.

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Mar 12, 2004 06:59 pm

Second on Jues comment. Heard a couple albums recorded in such rooms or "chambers" and it was sincerely sweet! I stumbled into a pretty sweet situation myself. I have a auto repair garage that is probably oh 80x80 with a 16ft ceiling. Some friends dumped a mess of "cubie" dividers on me that they got from an office teardown. It takes a bit of puttsing around sometimes, but I have a very "tunable" room by placing the dividers around. I'm starting an album for a group I did a demo CD for a couple of months ago this week. I will use the garage for at least drums and bass. I will share a song when the album is done soes ya kan get in ider of how the room can be tuned.

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Since: Nov 21, 2002


Mar 12, 2004 10:30 pm

okay maybe this is a tad off-topic, but we are talking about recording drums... and i had to mention: The washer and dryer to my house are in my psuedo-studio-place, the dryer being right in front of the drums across the way... during practice tomorrow, i wanna try putting the mic in the dryer when recording a drum track, for an interesting reverb effect. anyone ever do this before? if not i will post some results tomorrow or the next day, i was even thinking of having someone maybe open and close the dryer slightly while recording too... experimentation.

...bringing sexy back
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Mar 13, 2004 06:14 am

sonuds interesting man...

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Mar 13, 2004 09:41 am

what about micing amps-small and dead?

Czar of Midi
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Mar 14, 2004 09:24 pm

Dan, I have recorded guitar amps in the oven, in the drier, a dishwasher, inside of a bus. Either inside or pointed in with a mic inside. Not tried recording drums from inside a drier, but it should yeild some interesting sounds. I would be curious to hear them for shure.

Also used cupboards, and many differant containers as well to record in, through and around.

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Mar 15, 2004 12:14 pm

I'd be curious about the drier mic myself.

Czar of Midi
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Mar 15, 2004 09:25 pm

So make sure you psot a sample fo the guitar Dan.

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Mar 17, 2004 07:49 am

Quote:
for shure


A typo--not a pun--I assume? :D

I wonder what kind of mic he will be using in his experiment...

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Mar 17, 2004 05:25 pm

I didnt get a chance to do it last weekend, cause we were just running over the set list because we had a gig that night, same deal this weekend, but we may be able to squeeze in another practice thingy on sunday after show where i will get to recording.

Czar of Midi
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Mar 17, 2004 08:58 pm

Typo yes, no pun there at all. I was reading a magazine I get from Shure at the time so I would acredit it to brain fade.

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