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Member Since: Feb 14, 2004

Hi all. I'm new to this site and have found it to be an awesome resource! I was wondering: I have a Behringer Eurorack UB2442FX-PRO that i just got to start home recording with. My question is...what instruments do i need to track in stereo though the stereo inputs? Also, how do you generally record all the tracks in regards to which instruments are more on the left and which are more on the right in a stereo environment? Any help would be great. Thanks in advance!

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Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Feb 14, 2004 08:40 pm

aren't you mixing in software? if so record everything mono in mono and pan them when you mix down.

some common ways to pan things would be: kick drum center, bass center, lead voacls center. and well, everything else, anywhere you'd like.

ultimately, music is art. you can listen to another artist and mix they way they did it, or just be creative and do it your own way.

or maybe i've misunderstood what you're asking. sorry :O)

a.k.a. Porp & Mr. Muffins
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Since: Oct 09, 2002


Feb 14, 2004 10:47 pm

Electric guitars are generally panned left and right (The same thing recorded twice if you want that modern 'wall of guitar' sound). Usually vocals are center, but backup vocals are often panned anywhere in the stereo field, and sometimes double-tracked left and right. Drum overheads are panned left and right (Like you're looking at the front of the kit). But like Jamie said, it's an art. Do what sounds good-- which is oftentimes what other people are doing, but don't be afraid to experiment!
If an instrument has a stereo output, then record it in stereo. If it's got a mono output (like a guitar or almost all microphones) then record it in mono.

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Since: Feb 14, 2004


Feb 14, 2004 11:36 pm

That all makes sense. I appreciate it!

Member
Since: Nov 21, 2002


Feb 15, 2004 12:31 am

if you record a mono signal in stereo, its going to take up more system resources, right?

sonar seems to record in stereo by default.

thanks

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Feb 15, 2004 02:04 am

Dan, right, twice the disk space.

I have an older version of Cakewalk and it's extremely flexible with what it records. Mono or stereo from any input on either of my soundcards and even lets me pick which drivers i'm using. It's all in the track properties. I right click a track, Track Properties, setup my ins and outs, click Okay, Arm the track to record and hit record to test it (to make sure I set it up correctly. it would suck to do a whole take and then play it back only to realize i recorded 5 minutes of dead air from the wrong input. i've done it a few times!)

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Feb 16, 2004 06:27 pm

The only things I record in stereo are my synths. I will alos record my POD in stereo ony when I am using an effect that need to be recorded in stereo such as a chorus effect or the like.

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Since: Feb 14, 2004


Feb 16, 2004 06:50 pm

You guys have been great and told me what I needed to know. I really appriciate the time u took to answer my beginner questions...lol. THanks again!

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Feb 16, 2004 10:31 pm

I like to pan a group just as it sets up. It gives a feeling of "being there" to the listener. Sometimes I vary that if it creates sonic confusion in the mix.

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Feb 17, 2004 12:20 am

most of the stereo recording I do is from my turntables or my minidisc, which go straight into the mixer for the 10 or 12 dB of boost they need to be peaking properly and then i add compression if nessecary. i guess all consumer gear is quiet like that.

and ffmedic42, isn't this place great? :O)

Member
Since: Feb 14, 2004


Feb 17, 2004 12:24 am

Ahh man! It's awesome. This is such a great resource! I'm really thinking about getting into this as a second job. As a firefighter, I only work 10 days a month, so it leaves me open to do something like this. Lot's more learning to do though!

Frisco's Most Underrated
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Since: Jan 28, 2003


Feb 17, 2004 02:10 am

that would explain ffmedic but what's the 42? If you stick around and practice on your own, I'm sure you will learn much. I know I did.

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Feb 17, 2004 04:03 am

i'm gonna say he's either 42 years old, or that's his rescue company

anyone taking bets?

Member
Since: Feb 14, 2004


Feb 17, 2004 09:10 am

Close. It's the first Engine Company I ever worked for when I was 18. I started using that name back then, and it just stuck I guess. I'm not 42 though...I just turned 27. A few more years to go before I hit the 'Over The Hill' club. I'll give it to Jaime though (old company). That's close enough!

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Feb 17, 2004 11:02 am

heh, well you know it's better to be thought older than you really are, than the other way around. at least on the net anyways ;O)

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Feb 17, 2004 12:25 pm

man, you mean these guitar chorus effects on my POD arent showing up because i record the pod in mono? it still seems to sound warbly.

hi ffmedic. i've been here for a year and i still feel new around here, but welcome!

Member
Since: Feb 14, 2004


Feb 17, 2004 03:05 pm

Thanks man!

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Feb 18, 2004 08:31 pm

Ya forty, the stereo give it a bit more life. It will sound good in mono as well, but for the full effect it really should be a stereo track as the chorus is really a stereo effect on the POD.

And ya, I forgot, welcome to HRC ffmedic42. Stick around and ask all the questions ya like.

...bringing sexy back
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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Feb 19, 2004 07:36 am

id love a pod - thats gonna be my next investment...

Member
Since: Feb 14, 2004


Feb 19, 2004 09:15 am

Ok, this is gonna sound stupid...What do you mean "POD"? What does that stand for? Dumb question for ya guys I'm sure...lol.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Feb 19, 2004 09:22 am

POD is a butt-kickin amp simulator/direct box for guitar service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear

Member
Since: Feb 14, 2004


Feb 19, 2004 09:31 am

Gotcha. Don't you usually want to use one of the rack mounted POD's for recording bass? That seems to be what I have seen in different studios I have visited.

...bringing sexy back
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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Feb 19, 2004 09:33 am

itd be great for me cos i havent got room for amps and stuff, and i cant get away with cranking anything to a decent level without upsetting the neighbours...

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Feb 19, 2004 09:35 am

POD has a line for basses as well. I have used my POD (the desktop version, not the rack)for recording bass, but I get a much better sound going straight out the direct out on my bass amp. Bass POD's work much better for bass (obviously :-)

Desktop Bass POD service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Feb 19, 2004 09:38 am

There are many other such devices available, check "The Gear Bag" for more www.homerecordingconnecti...st&cat_id=7

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