Nov 30, 2003 02:11 pm oktava MK319 is pretty nice for $99.
I need a vocal condensor mic for under 300 bucks...
Posted on Nov 30, 2003 01:42 pm
AK Redline
Seconds From The End
Member Since: Jun 16, 2003
alrighty im building my studio to a reputable stage.. and im shopping for a new condensor microphone. i would like to spend only 200 dollars... and i like the rode nt1-a anniversary mic. how does this and the behringer b-2 compare. il take any reccomendations for the best overall mic in the 200 dollar range if its really worth the extra maybe ill drop the money and go for 300 but i'd like to stay at 200 i got some other stuff that i need as well. Thanks!
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Nov 30, 2003 02:11 pm oktava MK319 is pretty nice for $99.
Nov 30, 2003 02:21 pm yeah those octavas are pretty good, check the rode nt1 too, this is pretty nice service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
Nov 30, 2003 04:15 pm Yes, I should say the nt1 would be good. I've never used it, although I have used the nt2 and it is good. It seems to be one of the most popular mics, so that's what I would go for if I were you.
Nov 30, 2003 04:47 pm check The Gear Bag www.homerecordingconnection.com/review.php for some indeas and reviews of a few...
Nov 30, 2003 05:07 pm Although I haven't personally tried it, I have heard good things of the Studio Project's C1 mic. It also comes in a case with a shock mount too. Might want to check it out. www.studioprojectsusa.com/c1.html
Nov 30, 2003 06:58 pm any reviews on the behringer B2?
Nov 30, 2003 08:26 pm I picked up two of them for their Omni patterns. They are not as articulate as the NT1 and not a warm as the 319. Their sensitivity is about that of the NT1. They are also a little crisp centered at 10K. I've been using them for room mics and overheads for drum kit as well as in a decatree array with two NT1's. I would say for 99% of the vocals I work with they would be fine. There is only one woman that I have worked with that has an extreamly fine voice. I only cross paths with her about once a year or so. With her I found the 319 the only choice. I didn't have the B2's yet. I am pretty sure that the stack ranking would be 319, NT1, then B2.
Nov 30, 2003 09:53 pm i know jues uses the nt1-a and i heard his reocrdings, very nice.... is it worth the money?
Dec 01, 2003 11:00 am according to the guitar center / musicians friend sites, there are no oktava products available... yeah, right... I was in the lombard store 15 minutes ago and found that to be untrue - a big display was waiting for me... don't believe their search engine, guys...
Dec 01, 2003 11:09 am yeah agreed i know i had to physically type in "behringer truth" monitors because they werent listed under their monitors. no ragging on musiciansfriend.... just some thigns take a little work and i can see with a website tha huge that a flaw can be held here and there : )
Dec 01, 2003 11:16 am i still see oktava mics (MK319 & MK219) at the guitar center by me.
Dec 01, 2003 11:44 am If any of you have any experience trying to BUILD search engines, you'd know why there isn't really a good one in existance yet...until SQL implements the MindRead() function, it's pretty darn hard to build one...
Dec 01, 2003 12:03 pm well, granted... but if you type in oktava with no quotes, no funny characters, no other search terms, and 15 minutes ago you actually saw the item sitting on a shelf in one of their stores, welllllll.... you'd expect to see at least one result. (shrugs) at least a phone rep will take care of you if you call.
Dec 01, 2003 12:29 pm true, but if they have none in stock...
Dec 01, 2003 05:41 pm Yes indeed, it seems funny that the GC stores all have Oktava and such in stock yet even their Pro website store does not show any. I am guessing they are not selling them online but only in the store. I would think that seeing as how GC owns MF they would show they have the availability but as dB said. Maintaining the inventory status of a web site is no small task indeed.
Dec 02, 2003 02:22 pm I've been informed that I'm definitely getting an oktava mk012 for xmas. woohoo! Soon my drum tracks will have clarity and punch the likes of which ye've ne'er heard from me... :)
I know that the company is Russian, but the mic is apparently being made at the North Pole by Elfco. Hopefully it'll still be up to specs and won't, like, shoot candycanes out of my speakers or anything.
Dec 02, 2003 08:33 pm Na, no candy canes. Just good wholesome sound. I love teh fact their stuff is still all hand built. Some people beef about it because in some cases each unit has a little bit differant flavor, but that what makes em unique. And they do build them well enough that they can make matched sets if you like.
Dec 02, 2003 09:06 pm compare these mics.... ode nt1-a; rode nt1000; or behringer B-2 or B-1 whats my best best should i drop 300 for the nt1000? thanks!
Dec 02, 2003 09:15 pm Ok, I guess it is about time to go on record saying something controversial. I think the matched set thing is novel, and as long as it didn't cost too much I would get a set. Probably will in fact looking at a set of NT5's. Regardless, here's the scud; I think the matched set thing is primarily bunk. With the eq, modeling, morphing, shaping, dymanics control, etc., etc.,....we have at our fingertips; As long as a mic does not have serious holes in it, we can get the sound out we want. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying no need to have different mics. I love having an arsonal! It's inspriational if nothing else. "Man, I can't wait to hear that voice through the 319". But when it comes to sets, good grief. I use my two 012's together often. One on the bridge of a guitar one on the hole, One on the top of a tom one on the bottom, etc. Every case I am capturing two very different sounds. So I move things around untill I hear that "sound" I am looking for then finish the job in software. They are close enough for who they are for. A matched set would do little to assist.
Dec 02, 2003 09:40 pm Sorry AK, I was babbling about matched sets when you posted. There is no shuda, woulda, coulda, in recording. It's all about preferences, budgets, existing equipment, etc. I looked at your profile and I see Cubase SX. That app will process whatever you put into it. That is to say it is a fine application and you can't buy a mic that SX can not take advantage of.
I'm trying to think of a way to express this.... Ok let't try this. The NT1 will get you 95% of the way to the finest of recordings. Is a Baby Blue better? Probably. But can you take advantage of it? Does the rest of your hardware warrent it? Is your ear developed to the point of taking advantage of it? Are you recording artists that develop a fine enough sound to take advantage of it? Joe blow rocker roller jumps in his car rolls down the window, fires in a CD, cranks the stereo to blastismo, and listens to a CD that has been squashed by mass production techniques to play well on a clock radio. Did the recording studio need to use a Newman?
Where are you in your journey to becoming a recording artist? For me, I purchased two NT1's and have been thrilled for three years now with the results I get. I still have not mazimized their potential. Listen to the recordings that some of they guys here have made with Sure 57 and 58 dynamics. There are some awsome recordings on this site. Go to a studio that has a baby blue and I'll bet there is a Sure 57 in the cabinate as well. And most probably an NT1.
Please don't misunderstand this post. I am not chastising you for asking. I asked too at one point. But no one can predict how you will react to a mic. I often wish I could use a mic for a month prior to purchasing one. I have an NT3 that I just have developed no admiration for. That is not to say that it is not a good mic. It and I have just not connected yet. I've got an old Kustom dymanic with a bent screen that I will pull out of the bag first. I know what it will do for me.
Dec 02, 2003 11:17 pm I personally love the Rode NT1000... It sounds very Neumann U87ish... I also have the Oktava 319 which IS a steal at only $99(heck for that get 2) For vocals usually the first thing I grab is the NT1000... It is crisp but has that sort-of bottom oompf (not by proximity effect) That the Neumann's have...
In fact, I was set on getting the Neumann TLM 103 then, I tried it (and many others) side by side with the NT1000... to my ears... the NT1000 won!
I suggest trying them out and then picking the one you like the best!
I used my 319 on a slide player a little while ago with unbelievable results... I'll have to contact him and ask if I can post it for you guys!
Shred
Dec 03, 2003 02:04 pm right i can say the same like you walt im sure were all kinda familiar with Samson and their products... nothin really hot but my buddy had a condesnor that we would do vocal tracks on and it sounded so awesome.... basically im just looking for a great all around mic that wil get the job done for any application being metal/screaming vocals, or a duet by two ladies.... i think ill end up with the rode nt1-a just from hearing jues's recordings. thanks to all
Dec 03, 2003 08:35 pm Out of all mics mentioned, I think the NT1 (nt1a is basically the same, just the anniversary model) is the best for the (rock bottom) price...
W.
Dec 04, 2003 11:44 am Woah, Walt... Nice rant! I agree :)
Jan 19, 2004 02:57 pm Of the mics I own, the first mic I reach for when tracking vocals is the NTK. It is very similar to my NT1000 but has just a little more body. Both mics give a great recording and accept EQ very well. They do both have a bit of "air", so it may not be a good idea to stack too many tracks, but I haven't had anyone yet who didn't sound at least OK on the NTK and most sound great. I got mine at GC for $380 by price matching off the net.
Blessings, Terry
Jan 26, 2004 11:05 am I am still on a limited budget, after years anyhow I have no complaints in the department of mikes, with my flashlight-powered condenser from radio shack (<20$). It takes one
aaa, and stays taped to my pcstand, aimed at my kiss. response is listed @20--15,000, although I cannot say I miss any response in my personal use.
Realistic 33-1060 600ohm
This is an old discontinued model but there are instances still around by the bushel nodoubt if you know where to look, or actually the right name toask for-
"ELECTRET CONDENSER"
Truly amazing quality response espeially considering they cost under20!
When if my ship or canoe or w'ever does come in(HA) I still am in no hurry to decide among the infinite choices among quality microphones.
Jan 26, 2004 11:23 am its what you do with your equipment that counts...
Jan 26, 2004 12:00 pm ya, straight out of penthouse forum...
Jan 26, 2004 12:11 pm hahahaha. i wouldnt know...
Jan 26, 2004 01:03 pm yeah, well, I was young and single once...
Jan 26, 2004 01:13 pm eh.. youre still young. old happens when you start driving cars into farmers markets.
Jan 26, 2004 01:16 pm what, you're not supposed to do that?
Jan 26, 2004 01:23 pm doh! yeah.. probably best to avoid them altogether.
Jan 26, 2004 10:02 pm I drove a pick up into a farmers market once...
While reading penthouse forum.
Jan 26, 2004 10:42 pm *snicker*
this kinda reminds of an article i read recently..
a guy had just been pulled over for speeding. he immediatly gets out on the road and rearends an ambulance..
while reading his just-issued speeding ticket.
sucks to be him. two tickets within a 10 minute period.
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