Trying to branch out... need a little advice/help

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Member Since: Sep 08, 2003

I love the forum here. I've been reading for a little while but this is my first post. I've been slowly advancing in the home recording area. I started out 5 years ago with a simple Yamaha 4 track. Last summer (before I had a computer) I went out and bought a Zoom Digital 10 track. I've done a decent amount of recording on it and like what I can do with it but now that I have a home computer I want to try to tie that in a bit.

I went out and bought the cheapest software program I could find to try to see if I liked working on the computer (Magix Music Studio). I haven't been doing any direct computer recording... right now I've just been uploading the tracks from my multitrack and mixing on the computer. This software package has a midi part to it also but I don't have any clue how to use it. Do I need go buy a midi controller to utilize the sequencer and virtual instruments that came with it? I know that this program is probably very limited in scope but I want to see if I like the computer work before I spring for something like Cubase. Anyway... any advice would be great... or if anyone knows a good place to start learning about working with midi and sequencers. I've tried going through the manual but it's not the clearest thing in the world.

Thanks.

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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Sep 08, 2003 01:59 pm

thats a cool name..my fiancee's surname is jenkins!

anyways, hopefully youll find some of the articles here of use...

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Since: Jul 02, 2003


Sep 08, 2003 02:25 pm

You didn't say which recording app your using but you might want to also download the demo's of apps like Sonar, Cubase, Adobe Audition (formerly CoolEdit Pro) to really get an idea of what these programs and your computer can do.

Not sure on the midi thing since I don't use midi, but if it came with a sequencer and midi instruments I'd assume it can use them without an outside midi interface.


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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Sep 08, 2003 03:25 pm

i've never used Magix but with Cakewalk you don't need anything external to take advantage of MIDI. My second soundcard, a soundblaster, has a great builtin MIDI synth that sounds wonderful. I can sequence notes in the built-in piano roll and then record it's output directly to an audio track, all without any external gear (just the SB). I also use FruityLoops as a synth and drum sequencer, and it's MIDI based although it's not immediately obvious as you need no prior knowledge of MIDI to use it. Eventaully I plan you buy a MIDI controller so that I can enter notes more easily in both FruityLoops and Cakewalk.

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Sep 08, 2003 03:59 pm

Thanks for all of the advice so far. I checked out those articles and I'll go through them to see if it helps.

Jamie... I also have a soundblaster card. Since the sequencer and the multitrack are 2 separate programs would I open them both at the same time to record the sequencer's output to the multitrack? How hard is it to match tempo? I'm a bit worried about that because I don't ever use a metronome.

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Sep 08, 2003 04:04 pm

well in Cakewalk it's all intergrated. But concering Fruity + Cakewalk, I have to do everything "electronic" first, export those as wavs and import them into Cakewalk so taht I can track guitars, vox, etc over that.

There are options for syncing multiples programs, but you'll have to do some research and/or ask questions about that. I know for instance that Fruity can now run as a VSTi which means you could open it up in Cubase. Alot of programs like Reason and Ableton Live etc can be synced with something call Rewire, but I'm really foggy on what that does/is since I've never used it.

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Sep 08, 2003 09:53 pm

I have a zoom 10 track and I think its great.

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Sep 09, 2003 10:17 am

Sean... do you have the one with the CD recorder?

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Sep 10, 2003 03:39 am

I've never used Magix Music Studio, but my guess would be that using your SB card's synth, you could sequence a midi track in your sequencer, and then record it to a wav file within that program (look for a record to wave or save to wave option). Then open your multitracker program and import or open your .wav file that you just saved.


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Sep 10, 2003 08:01 am

thanks coolo... I think that is how you do it. Now I just need to figure out how to match up the tempos. I guess from now on I should start with the midi sequence and branch out from there.

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