Aug 14, 2003 12:59 am I wouldn't personally use a USB external drive for disk intensive work such as recording. If you want external you'd be better off to go with SCSI. If your just going to use it for storage then USB would probably be okay.
Dan
How fast should my next hard drive be?
Posted on Aug 14, 2003 12:45 am
AK Redline
Seconds From The End
Member Since: Jun 16, 2003
Im going to be getting an external hard drive for my computer... and i will be recording strait onto it... how fast should it be would 7200 usb connected be ok? or what should i get
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Aug 14, 2003 12:59 am I wouldn't personally use a USB external drive for disk intensive work such as recording. If you want external you'd be better off to go with SCSI. If your just going to use it for storage then USB would probably be okay.
Dan
Aug 14, 2003 05:30 am I wouldn't suggest using such a thing either. I good option that I use is a swappable bay that makes changing hard drives easier. 7200 is good. USB is only as fast as your USB port. Is you available USB port a USB 2?
Aug 14, 2003 10:26 pm olddog.. how do i get scsi?
Aug 14, 2003 10:53 pm don't take a bath for a week? <G>
(Scuzzy is how SCSI is pronounced in case your not familiar with it ;)
You'll need to buy a SCSI card, Adaptec makes some very good ones as do some other companys. It can get pretty expensive going that route but IDE drives still don't match SCSI drives in terms of performance, CPU usage, number of drives per card etc. Example: You'll pay as much for 20GIG SCSI drive as 100+GIG IDE drive.
Aug 15, 2003 12:21 am ouch any other routes i can go??
Aug 15, 2003 12:46 am simplest way that is perfectly fine is just to get a 7200RPM IDE (not SCSI) drive with at least 2MB cache. here's a great example:
www.mwave.com/mwave/doc2/A19500.html
that drive is $58 there. not bad at all!
if you want external for hotswapping or whatever, why not use firewire?
Aug 15, 2003 04:59 am I agree with Minkus (looks around thinking, "did I say that!":-), a few years back IDE was not a real good option, but IDE has come a long way, it's fast and stable enough for any home studio and it's FAR less expensive.
Dec 30, 2005 04:34 pm db, do you prefer people to do what im doing here, digging up an old relevant thread to post a related question? or should i start a new thread when i have a question like the two i have now?
here they are.
1. wanna get another external hard drive. this hand me down is too small and slow, less than 7200 rpm. i want to use the new one i'll get to stream drum samples from, because im gonna blow all my xmas dough on a drum solution, bfd no doubt. that program asks for a dedicated drive or i think a partition at least on a drive thats seperate from the drive you record onto, because it streams samples in real time. i see peeps here are saying go internal for direct-recording, but this is not recording, its streaming, and the bfd site says external drives should work fine if fast enough. i need more space anyway for other stuff, so another external drive is something i need to get anyway. ill get 7200 rpm. but what about cache size? i saw 2 8 and 16 at the store, i believe.
2. what do you guys think of the idea in general, using an external for this sort of thing? i could go internal again, but i have two drives in there now. someone was saying something about a system not being able to handle more than two without ...adding something. i forget what though. anyone know?
Dec 30, 2005 04:40 pm Well, I prefer people get answers to their questions by any legal means necessary. :-)
If you want a fast drive, internal is my personal choice, however, if you want to go external for whatever reason, what I did was simply buy an external case, they cost 30-40 dollars, then get any ol' internal drive to fit inside of it.
An external drive is only as fast as the bus you have it on, so be sure you have USB2 or Firewire 800...I think 800 is the fastest...isn't there two, 400 and 800? Or something like that, I'm not really up on my firewire knowledge.
Dec 30, 2005 05:07 pm i only have USB. 2.0.
i have an external case. i hadnt thought about this, but maybe i could just buy a larger internal drive and stick it in the case and just do away with the small one (its only like 16 gigs)
Dec 30, 2005 05:09 pm USB 2 rocks, thats fine...I prefer internal myself tho...
Dec 30, 2005 10:32 pm forty, just little info for future referance.
I agree with dB on the internal thing by the way. But external will surely work. Anyway, my system is set up with OS and apps on the main drive on the primary IDE buss. Then my removable drive is set up for the project audio data on the secondary IDE buss. Now here is were I think newer MoBo's rock. I have 2 SATA drives set up in Raid which is really irelavent here, but they are strictly for what you want to do, storing all my sample data that the softsytnhs and samplers use. Hell just one sample library for Native Instruments Akoustik Piano is over 15 gig. Right now I have 450 gig of storage between 2 drives and they are internal as well. And that is over half gone allready. Not that you will ever need that much, but it might be another way to look at it if your MoBo is SATA ready.
Dec 31, 2005 01:36 pm i forget what SATA is. what makes SATA, whatever it is, better for storing samples?
Dec 31, 2005 01:38 pm someone was saying something about what happens you add more than 2 drives to the IDE thingy thing....you have to do something with the cables if you go internal from that point on? some kinda splitter or something...
oh yeah, also, whats a good cache size?
Dec 31, 2005 01:57 pm SATA is Serial ATA, supposed to be faster then the IDE buss. I do have to admit I havent choked the system yet, and with Dimmension and the piano from NI it is sucking big time off those drives.
Not sure about the IDE thing unless they are talking about the master/sklave relation of the drives.
A godd size cache to look for would be at least 8mb or more. Bigger then 8 is tuff to find though right now.
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