Aug 10, 2003 12:56 am I was really into rage for a long time... but I do like audioslave too... the newer single (like a stone I think?) is pretty cool.
Audio Slave
Posted on Aug 10, 2003 12:18 am
Sds2000
Member Since: Jul 17, 2003
Who do you think is better Audio Slave or there old band Rage Aganst The Machine.
Personly i don't think you can compare the two they are both diffrent styles and really aswome.
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Aug 10, 2003 12:56 am I was really into rage for a long time... but I do like audioslave too... the newer single (like a stone I think?) is pretty cool.
Aug 10, 2003 11:04 am RATM > audioslave
soundgarden > audioslave
Aug 10, 2003 11:07 pm this is no contest. All you have to do is listen to Rage's 1992 self-title release. I personally can't stand Chris Cornell's voice, sorry, the 80's are over, and the Soundgarden concert i went to in '96 was probably the worst concert I've ever seen. Don't get me wrong, I still love and listen to Superunknown and Down on the Upside, but Rage vs. Audioslave?... no comparison.
Aug 11, 2003 12:58 am i thought it was kind of interesting when they were running the promo circuit for their album release, and the single most-referenced descriptor was "supergroup". nothing genuine, just "buy this product" type of interviews.
Aug 11, 2003 01:28 pm i'm still waiting for Zack to resurface with some unexpected solo project
::keeps wishing::
Aug 11, 2003 11:17 pm as for supergroups, i prefer tomahawk. comprised of mike patton, duane denison (the jesus lizard) and two other 'famous' dudes. the song 'capt. midnight' is impossibly catchy, creative, and rockin'.
my favorite soundgarden albums are badmotorfinger and superunknown. audioslave doesn't stack up, for me, but then again i've never been a rage fan.
Aug 12, 2003 04:15 am fantomas is great, mr bungle is great, when he wigs out, patton is king!
i hope zack leaves it a bit, there's only so much semi-informed agit-rap ranting you can take.
i got bored of rages first album quite quickly, sure, some cool guitar ideas, but it got old real quick for me personally. i never really picked them up again. Public Enemy did it better (with or without Anthrax!!).
Soundgarden still blow me away, kim thlobalobs guitaring was heavy as hell, and everything kinda worked, all the different attitudes n that.
Audioslave do sound abit like a zeppelin tribute band though, but then i've only heard the singles....
semi-informed rant over!
Aug 12, 2003 02:42 pm i think you mean kim thayil
Aug 12, 2003 06:48 pm I've always thought Rage had a lot of potential if they would just get rid of that whiny 12 year old they had singing (if you can call it that). He sounds ok for about one song and after that, his voice was just too much for me to take. That said, I respect the man a great deal for his dedication to his beliefs.
Soundgarden simply ruled. I loved everything about that band.
Audioslave mixes what I liked about Rage with part of what I liked about Soundgarden. Pretty hard to go wrong? Not really. I do like Audioslave, but not nearly as much as Soundgarden. In this case, the whole is not at all greater than the sum of its parts.
Aug 13, 2003 05:38 am badmotorfinger had such great riffage. so unusual but also coherent. and then superunknown was just recorded beautifully. the engineer on that one deserves as much credit as the band.
i always thought rage's riffs were boring? morello was creative with styles and effects, but aren't rage riffs mostly just variations on the pentatonic scale? thats what my ear was picking up.
Aug 13, 2003 06:16 am if pentatonic is boring, label me a blues fan
Aug 13, 2003 02:58 pm hahah sorry man. :) i totally wasnt trying to come down on anyone's tastes. i like the blues too. its just that everyone said morello was revolutionary, but i couldn't get around the fact that his riffs were pentatonic.
Aug 13, 2003 04:07 pm are any scales/modes/etc really "revolutionary"? what scale hasn't been used before?
Tom Morello IS revolutionary. He's made sounds with guitars never made before. They were recording rap music which is a decidedly simple art musically since rap is mostly about the beat and the vocals, so I'd expect them to produce simple medodies and solos for the guitar. What Rage did was bring the rap/rock fusion style into the mainstream. You have them (almost single-handedly) to thank for all the hundreds of Limp Bizkits and Linkin Parks out there.
Hey, I like rap music.. doesn't mean I have bad taste :O)
Aug 13, 2003 07:37 pm yeah, that's true. i hate those other bands you mention, so i can't "thank rage." yet as far as i'm concerned, rage was one of the only bands that did the fusion any justice at all. it meant something with them.
morello's sounds were revolutionary, definitely, like i said. the crossbreed of those two musical styles appearing in the mainstream was also novel. i was focusing on the riffage itself. at the time, i was heavily into grunge bands like nirvana and alice in chains, and the pentatonic guitar work on rage's first album was just less interesting to me than a weird jerry cantrell riff.
you're right, few scales are revolutionary. but the pentatonic is the old standby for rock. what can i say? i dont know why i can appreciate an early pearl jam guitar solo--almost totally pentatonic--but not the guitar work of rage. maybe it's because i'm a fan of unusual or evocative chord progressions--which 'ten' had in spades. i also have a strange relationship with rap. it has to be exactly right or i will pass it up.
so that's just my opinion. i respect rage highly and see some good things in them. they were just never my cup o tea.
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