Artificial Drums

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I am using a laptop to play drums for my band. I have created the drums using Steven Slate's Metal Kit 2, and turned the tracks into WAV files that I can play through my mixer. This is working great for band practice, but I was thinking what about live.... anyone have any suggestions on the best way to do this for a Live performance plugging into the House PA?? I figure my options are to keep the drums as a whole to play through a single channel on the board, or split it into 4 tracks played simultaneously so I could ultimately run 4 channels(Kick, Snare, Toms, Overheads) for individual control.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 18, 2012 01:22 pm

I've seen more than one band dump those audio files into an iPod and plug the ipod into the FOH.

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Since: Aug 13, 2006


Jul 18, 2012 02:23 pm

I guess that's one way to do it, but I am looking to have the best sound I can without a real drummer being present.

The Czar of BS
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Since: Dec 31, 2007


Jul 18, 2012 02:58 pm

A couple of bands that I worked with that do something similar, have an expensive solution. I don't think you want to go this route. But, what they use is an Digi 03 and Pro Tools. And they have a foot switch trigger.

Like I said, it's an expensive way to go. What Dan is suggesting is much more economical.

Byte-Mixer
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Since: Dec 04, 2007


Jul 18, 2012 05:04 pm

On the iPod or iPad suggestion, IK Multimedia have expanded their iRig stuff from what I remember. I remember the midi in/out, and the iRig guitar/instrument interface. But now they have a preamp, stomp box, mixer (looks DJ style), and such that I don't remember seeing a year ago heh.

www.ikmultimedia.com/prod...ew.php?C=mobile

I think that would be the simple/easy solution...errrr, if you have an i-device anyway.

Another option would be to just take the laptop, and use something like Ableton Live or another DAW that supports realtime switching (some have used it like an MPC or drumpad/sampler kinda thing), then take a decent audio interface, and send the audio interface to the FOH like you would the ipod. This is akin to Rob's suggestion, and if you don't already have the interface, etc. it can get pricey. I think Ableton has a 30-day trial that's fully featured though, so you could experiment with it.

Or take the recorded WAV files, and throw them into a VST Sampler/drum machine kinda thing? Maybe? More than one way to skin a cat I guess. :D

Something to think about anyway.

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Jul 19, 2012 11:37 am

I have a laptop dedicated for the drums to play back, and we are using a Presonus Audiobox for Interface. Currently I run the drums into my mixer and have an 28-Band EQ and BBE Sonic Maximizer inserted in the same channel to really fine tune the drums. They sound great, but I am thinking that when we play live and need to go through the house PA, they obviously are not going to sound as good because I have them going through my system fine tuned and EQ'd and our system won't be there. So my thought is that if I seperate the drums into 4 parts and 4 channels, that wherever we play the sound guy will have control over 4 separate tracks, almost the equivalence of live micing a drum kit (Kick, Snare, Toms, Cymbals) and be able to fine tune and EQ the sounds in to sound good. Does Ableton Live support VST's Soft Synths also, i.e. Symphonic Choir by East/West??

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Since: Feb 07, 2005


Jul 19, 2012 02:23 pm

Can't you keep your system as is and just send a stereo pair to the house PA? Personally I wouldn't leave it up to the sound guy to make your drums sound good.

Yes, Ableton Live supports VST's

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Since: Apr 30, 2012


Jul 19, 2012 04:11 pm

Could you not bring the eq and tweak it during the soundcheck? Sounds like you have what you need. The sound guy might just group the drums in a submix, so depending on him/her, you might not be accomplishing much by giving 4 channels. I would have both alternatives ready, and pass it by him before setup.

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