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Posted on Sep 19, 2011 11:52 am
Nate Dawg MSM
Member Since: Sep 19, 2011
Hey,
Im new to this site and new to home recording,
i hve played in bands for the best part of 10 years, now i want to record by my self using my lap top,
can anyone help me find a sound desk for beginners that has atleast 10 imputs so i can rcord my drums (bass drum, snare drum, 4 toms, hihat, and possibly 2 or 3 over heads)
also one other thing i need help with is what would be the best software for recording and mix, any advise and links would be great
Love
Nate
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Sep 19, 2011 11:53 am PS sorry for the horrible spelling
HippieRockstar Vatican AssassinMember
Since: Mar 20, 2009
Sep 19, 2011 01:56 pm First of all.... welcome! Second of all... I would search this forum for posts that have already touched on this subject. I think you'll find that this same question has been asked several times and answered.
However... so as not to leave you hanging with no info whatsoever... I've seen a lot of posts regarding using a Tascam USB 1800 and n-Track software. Regarding drum mics, Shure and Audix would prob. be in the top picks. But again... search this site... lots of info out there.
Quincysanhttp://www.unitedmusicians.infoContributor
Since: Nov 11, 2007
Sep 19, 2011 02:43 pm First, I would recommend that you build or purchase a recording PC.
Here are budget items I would recommend. This is approximately the cheapest solution you will find, I believe.
This is your main interface. It must be inserted into a PCI slot.
www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta1010LT.html
Cost is about $180 USD new online
You will need 8 additional pre-amps to drive the I/O (Input/output) interface. This device must be connected to the stereo RCA connections on the MAudio 1010lt.
www.nady.com/pra8.html
Cost is about USD $100
You will notice that the stereo RCA connections do not directly interface with the Nady 8 channel pre-amp. You will need 8 stereo RCA to 1/4 TRS adapters to make the necessary connections.
www.hosatech.com/product/...CA_to_14_in_TRS
Cost is about USD $4x8= $32
There are two XLR microphone inputs built in to the 1010lt in addition to the 8 inputs provided by the Nady 8 channel pre-amp. This makes for a total of 10 inputs.
I think the first problem you will experience is have a "lack of headroom". This means that when you record a microphone on something loud, like a snare drum, the input will become overloaded, which will cause an undesirable clipping kind of sound. If you notice that your audio inputs are clipping, you can buy in line pads to bring the signal down to an appropriate level (on a digital scale, your inputs should reach a maximum treshold of -6 dB. This is also referred to as -6dBFS).
Optional: www.google.com/search?q=i...280&bih=934
For DAW software, you might like Sony ACID or Reaper. I started on Sony Acid, and found it to be much easier to learn than Reaper (although Reaper can be downloaded for free). Sony Acid is about USD $40.
www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_s...amp;x=0&y=0
Love
Quincy
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Sep 20, 2011 02:09 pm The Delta is great by I've owned and hate that nady pre8. I also think the tascam (at ~$280-300) is a cooler setup without the need for all the extra cables/adapters.
On the drums, you could get by with 8. Never a need for 3 overheads and you can easily get by without a mic on the hats if the overheads are captured well. If you absolutely require a mic on hats you could mic the higher rack toms as a pair with one mic freeing up one pre for hats. Then there is the option of adding something like the nady pre8 and having 16 total preamps.
Don't think you need a mic on each and every drum to get good stuff. I love having that sort of control but it actually gets more complicated to mix the more mics going imho.
Quincysanhttp://www.unitedmusicians.infoContributor
Since: Nov 11, 2007
Sep 20, 2011 03:20 pm *Love
CptTripps
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Sep 20, 2011 05:40 pm Deleted By Hue
Sep 22, 2011 08:00 am OK, you guys are forgetting one critical thing, he said CHEEP! Buying a dedicated recording PC is hardly necessary, for recording on the cheap...you need a PC with decent power, WHILE recording it may behoove you to unplug from the intertubes, and shut off anti-virus and whatnot to conserve power.
To use your laptop, just looks for a decent USB device to use ans an interface, there are a few decent ones. One I like is the Line 6 UX or KB devices. KB devices are USB audio intefaces that are built in to a midi controller, so you have that available too.
For software, start with Reaper, it's free, and loads of people dig it, otherwise, Cakewalk makes a Sonar version for home studio that is pretty inexpensive and powerful, I'd recommend reaper though.
Then you need a microphone, if you've been in bands over the years, you likely have a mic laying around someplace, eh? For recording, a compressor is priceless to have...perhaps not REQUIRED, but it'd be DARN helpful.
Welcome to HRC.
Quincysanhttp://www.unitedmusicians.infoContributor
Since: Nov 11, 2007
Sep 22, 2011 02:09 pm *Love
dB Masters
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Sep 23, 2011 03:53 pm Pretty much everything has been said. Check out the forums and use the search function. It will be a lot quicker for you than waiting for replies.
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Beer
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