PC overhall coming - What performance differences can I look forward too?

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John
Member Since: May 06, 2007

Hey guys,

I am about to make a major PC upgrade (once Mr. UPS man drops off my new stuff later this week!) and I was wondering what performance increases I could be looking forward to with this new system setup compared to my current one! I feel like a kid on Christmas! Haha

Currently in my home studio, I am using an Alesis DM10 triggered drum kit through EZDrummer or Superior Drummer 2.0. for drum tracking, a Line 6 UX8 interface for guitars, vocals, and bass, and Sony Acid Pro 7 for my DAWS.

I also do video editing/rendering with Sony Vegas. I've been doing SD video editing for years, and now that HD is around, 30 minuet video projects take FOREVER to render down with my current system.... 8+ hours for a 30 min HD video with only 2 audio tracks, 2 video tracks, a couple plugins and a few text titles! EWWW!

On my current system, I am running Windows XP Pro (32bit), 4 gigs of dual channel ram, and an AMD Duel Core processor at I believe 2.5ghtz. (Can you see now why I want to upgrade?)

My reasons for upgrading are many. First, when using my Line 6 interface, I often use Gearbox/Pod farm to generate my guitar tones and vocal pres. I'll often record the guitar tracks 100% clean as the guitar player plays through through the pod farm/gearbox amp simulator, so later I can change or tweak the guitar sounds however I see fit using the gearbox plugin. Well, while in full sessions with bands, or even my own band, this chain of events starts to suck the life out of my pc.

Gearbox plugin, along with running EZdrummer or SD 2.0. for playing drum tracks, plus countless other plugins, leaves very little power to even track vocals. I had a recent session where as soon as I hit record to lay vocal tracks, I got the lovely slow dragging/stuttering playback that was no good to me for tracking. This would make pushing latency times higher my only option, meaning vocals where not as dead on as the other tracks.

So, I said enough was enough. I decided, it was time to upgrade! I have a power supply that is pretty much over kill at 850wats. But I got a great deal on, and I am actually running at least half of its power with all my internal drives.

I have a huge cooler master HAF-X full tower, 5 internal hard drives, and 2 optical drives.

I am upgrading my motherboard to a Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H that houses an AM3 AMD processor. It has good on-board HD video and audio chip-sets (plenty of power for what I'll be doing), a front side bus of 2600MHz Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s), USB 3.0 support, 6 SATA ports for 6/Gbs transfer, and It allows up to 16 gigs dual channel ram.

For ram, I am getting the full 16gigs, 4 chip-sets of 4 gigs in a Quad Channel kit.

The processor is going to be an AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban running at 3.3GHz, and has 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache.

I'm going to have a 1TB hard drive for my OS and programs. And I will have a least 4 other internal hard drives at random capacities, all running at 7200 RPM. Not sure what the cache on them all is.

I am going to be running Windows 7 64bit as my OS on this new system. I have used Windows 7 on my studio PC before with the current dual core setup,so I know all my hardware and software will run on it. My issue then was, Windows 7 was to demanding, so I had to re-downgrade to XP.

So, just wondering from those who have made major PC upgrades, what kind of performance differences am I going to see? How much can I do at once? And how many audio plugins is it going to take to make this system sweat at all? I like the thought of my new toy! Haha.

Thanks for any feedback!

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Since: Apr 10, 2009


Jul 27, 2011 03:29 pm

cry me a river, I'm running a latitude d600 on a docking station with 1 gb of ram and a pentium M 1.7 processor. Give me your old ****. lol

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Since: Nov 11, 2007


Jul 27, 2011 04:04 pm

Hmm, your retiring PC is about the same as my Macbook Pro that I've been using for tracking and mixing. I'm with you...it's time for an upgrade! The Macbook is great for stability while tracking but when it comes to mixing with more than 10 plugins...fuhgeddaboutit!

Based on the stuff you have plugged in, I don't know that your power supply is overkill at all! I use this PSU calculator when I build a computer:

extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

16 GB of RAM will be excellent for your video editing work, yowza! Your motherboard's front side bus is a screamer! I suddenly feel behind the times...

I need to buy a new mixing PC too. Eyeballing my friends i7 pc...but he put some hugely expensive graphics card in it, so I gotta convince him to pull that power hog out. Enjoy the new computer!

My guess is that you'll notice a huge difference. I recently sold my old mixing PC, it had a 3.2 Ghz dual core CPU, 1300 Mhz front side bus and 4 gigs of ram...that allowed for about 30 plugins (on average) per session with 128ms latency buffer, compared to my ~10 plugins on my Macbook pro w/ 128 ms latency buffer. You should be able to get 45+ plugs in a session w/ 128 ms latency buffer depending on which ones you use.

Czar of Turd Polish
Member
Since: Jun 20, 2006


Jul 29, 2011 02:02 pm

Major differences will be the ability to run many plugins/midi instruments while still tracking with low buffer settings. My old PC required me to freeze/lock tracks with any fx or I would get clicks/pops. Running reverbs/delays while also running podfarm without any hassle is fantastic.

My projects usually end up 20-30 tracks (including doubles). I can run comp/eq on each track all day long without issues (although I buss many things). I can also get about 6-8 verb/delay instances going along with that and still track at with my buffer at 128. I'm running quad core i7.

John
Member
Since: May 06, 2007


Jul 30, 2011 03:55 am

Thanks Tripps. Idk if I was expecting more performance or what, But I got pops and audio drop outs with my simple test tonight,

All we have so far is our click track (through a midi soft synth) and one rough guitar track.

Just for the hell of it, I dropped the buffer size ti 120, and moved the latency slide all the one to extra small. I got bad pops and and audio drops (music muted for a couple seconds) by doing so.

I left the buffer at 128, and moved the latency up a nitch or to. Seem to be doing fine at that point. Was I expecting a little to much? My main thing is, I would like to get my drummer to track with the loest latancy as possible so he can track more accurately to the click tracks.

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