Need a single coil in neck position...which p90?

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Yo!

Hue's recent "none blacker" guitar acquisition inspired me to get mine taken care of finally. I yakked about doing it a few months ago but I'm just getting around to it. To recap:

It's a Squier 51, single coil in the neck position, humbucker in the bridge position. It's kind of like a fat strat, but with a more me-friendly ergonomic.

I'm thinking about putting a p90 in the neck position and leaving the humbucker as is (hb sounds ok, previous owner put in something custom). Any suggestions on which flavor p-90 to check out?

I want the "p90 sound" but I'm certainly not going to break the bank getting something vintage put in. Anyone know anything about these Bill Lawrence p90's?

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Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Oct 19, 2010 02:11 pm

These guys may give you some unconsidered options. Sorry doesn't really help with deciding, but P-90s arent the same size as humbuckers, so maybe there are some here that would do without major mods/routing.

www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Guitar-Pickups_c_7.html

Maybe the Dream 180 ?

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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Oct 19, 2010 03:20 pm

Yeah, a P90 is larger than a single-coil and smaller than a humbucker. So to put a P90 in there, you'd have to route the body to accomodate one. Or if you put a P90 in place of a humbucker, you'd have to buy an adaptor plate.

But, Bill Lawerence gets a lot of good press. I've never played them before but next to the big guys, BL is mentioned near the top of the heap of pickup manufacturers.

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Oct 19, 2010 06:51 pm

I kind of expected to get some routing done. I don't expect this to be cheap :-(...however! The Bill Lawrence "p90" looks to be your typical single coil form factor. It also claims to be noiseless.

I'm a little suspicious of this "noise free" stuff. Any idea how noise free single coils work? Bill's noise free single coils certainly look like a plain ol' single...not one of those stacked humbucker things.

Here's the Bill Lawrence:
wildepickups.com/Wilde_Bill_s_NF_Singles.html
L280 is the "p90"

I know we went over this a few months ago in one form or another but if you'd be so kind to refresh me on your opinions of these mods I'd certainly appreciate it:

1.) Strip the paint. Don't care what it looks like, I want longer sustain at any aesthetic cost, even if the sustain gained is marginal, especially considering...
2.) Bigsby B5 tailpiece with a custom rocking bar bridge bent to my 9.5" radius.
3.) Graphtech Teflon injected "Tusq" nut. I installed this several months ago. I know Tad mentioned last time that tuning/string breakage issues would be a concern, this nut was a preemptive strike against such unpleasantness.
4.) Shield the inside of the guitar from fluorescent lights and other would-be tone frustrators.
5.) Upgrade the wiring gauge if necessary...not sure what gauge I should expect or request. I could use some guidance here for sure.

If you can think of any tone enhancements I might as well get done now please let me know. As always, I really appreciate the input!

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Oct 20, 2010 09:11 am

I'm pretty sure that 'noise-free' pups are achieved with a dummy load on the same circut, with an opposite polarity... er, something like that.

A 'tusq' nut? I hope no pinnipeds are hurt in the making of those.

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Oct 21, 2010 02:37 pm

Hahaha, the Tusq nut is emulated pinniped bone only, but also with Teflon.

I met with the tech last night and this is most definitely my go-to guy. I bet he has 1500 sqft of shop space in his basement and tons of awesome stuff (electronics, tremolos, nuts, bridges etc etc) in plastic containers lining the walls. I am happy to report that heaven exists, and it is in a basement in Olathe, Kansas.

"p90? Got one in this drawer...but would you rather have a Fender lace sensor?"

"Not sure"

So he hooked up the lace and I played it for a few. Kept the lace and gave him $30 for the pickup, labor and new strings.

He also happens to have a Bigsby B5 lying around and he convinced me into getting a roller bridge for it. He wasn't a fan of the idea to strip off the finish for increased sustain. He's a "pretty guitar" type of guy. Every guitar he's made looks like a 10 lb PRS...but with a little BC Rich attitude. Is it an instrument or a weapon? This man blurs the line, hah. Not terribly surprised that he won't strip it. A lot of work to do something that in his eyes is probably some vile sin.

Next week the B5 goes in!

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