Apr 20, 2003 10:11 pm i'd like to know as well. i use an MX802A, and i get the feeling that i'll need some external gear to monitor this.
i second this request for info!
My Audiophile is Recording Everything that
Posted on Apr 20, 2003 09:44 pm
Clockwork
Member Since: Apr 18, 2003
To start off with, im going to tell you the problem I am experiencing is not from sound bleeding from my headphones...
Im a HipHop artist and I recently bought a Behringer mixer. I have Dual RCA's going from the mixers outs to the Audiophiles ins and Dual RCA's going from the mixers ins to the Audiophiles outs. I have my headphones in the headphone jack of course.
There are three buttons on the mixer:
Tape to Ctrl Room, Tape to Mix, and FX to Ctrl Room.
When I have only the Tape to Ctrl Room button pressed, I can hear the instrumental in my phones only, but not the microphone.
When the Tape To Mix button is pressed i can hear the instrumental clearly and the mic clearly in my headphones, yet it records BOTH the beat and the vocals.
So my question is, how can I get this set up to where I can hear my vocals AND the instrumental in my headphones, but only record my vocals.
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Apr 20, 2003 10:11 pm i'd like to know as well. i use an MX802A, and i get the feeling that i'll need some external gear to monitor this.
i second this request for info!
Apr 20, 2003 10:52 pm i guess there' really several ways you can do this. I'll let someone with expereince step in and give the proper way to do it, but I like to monitor from the soundcard as opposed to the mixer.
i have the MX802a like MinkusMaz has got, but I'm using a Delta 44 soundcard. I don't know about the Audiophile, but the Delta 44 lets me assign one of my outputs as a monitor for all of the card's ins and outs. I run my mixer's main outs into one of the Delta's input pairs and monitor everything at once from the Delta. This is the most versitile way I've found given my limited gear.
I think the way I'm doing it is wrong, but I've been doing it for 2 years and I'm still kickin'.
Apr 20, 2003 11:25 pm Clockwork,
Unfortunately what you are experiencing is not bleed over in any form. You are asking the mixer to mix in the tape ins and send them out the main outs along with your vocals. Without a "Bus" or direct channel outs, there is no way to really route the wanted signal to the soundcard and to a mix that you can monitor in your headphones. If you had a mixer with a bus you could send the wanted signal out of the bus to the sound card and send the bus to the main mix as well just for monitoring purposes. The Behringer 1604 (sixteen in four out (one buss one main out)) would give you that ability.
Apr 21, 2003 09:55 am Ok, you have to check the monitor mixer box in your audiophile and depress the tape to ctrl room button in your mixer. This way, all the signals will be mixed in the soundcard's mixer and sent to the tape ins in the behringer.
Hope this help
Apr 21, 2003 03:37 pm You would be best served getting a mixer that has more than one set of outs.
The you could monitor everything, or anything, but just send the instrument or instruments you want to the sound card ins via a seperate bus out of the mixer.
I have the Behringer 1622 and that is how I do it, I assign the instrument I am recording to go to the headphone with everything else, but also assign it to come out of the sub-bus out all by itself and run that sub bus to the cards ins.
It's all about signal routing.
Apr 21, 2003 04:39 pm ok figured it out. sonico has it the closest, unless you want to buy new gear. have the outs from your audiophile going to the tape ins of the mixer. hit the tape to ctrl room button.
now the other half of this is to get it all set up in the software. you need to have whatever recording program you're using send its playback to the AP Multichannel or Monitor/Mixer, depending on which program and drivers you're using. then you open the m-audio control panel (triangle in your system tray or just go to control panels), and go to the patchbay/router tab. set the H/W Out 1/2 to Monitor Mixer. then go back into the Monitor Mixer tab, and make sure that the H/W In 1/2, WavOut 1/2, and Master Volume sliders are up (checking stereo gang/link helps), and that none are muted. then you can adjust the levels of the WavOut or the H/W In so that the mix of what's going in and what's being played back is suitable for you. yay!
oh yeah...make sure the tape to mix (or 2TK to mix) button isn't pressed. that's when you'll be getting what you're hearing bleeding with the recording.
Apr 21, 2003 11:30 pm OOps,
My boo boo. So did you get it solved?
Feb 28, 2006 09:50 am Prolly nobody will read this thread anymore since it's almost 3 years old...but just wanted to say MinkusMaz you are BRILLIANT! Sounds like you have a very similar setup to mine (similar equipment, etc.) and when others said it couldn't be done without buying new gear (which I have no money for) you get the job done. I was going to post with this exact problem, and have read a few other posts that didn't offer a solution for my situation, but this one sure did. Soooo sweet.
Thanks all for the help. I love this place.
Feb 28, 2006 10:12 am You know, this really is a testament to the knowledge base that has been accumulating through the years. And also, to the awsome search utility that dB has built into the site.
I can't tell you how many times I have had questions answered by searching through existing posts rather than cluttering up the message boards with new posts containing questions that have already been answered a dozen times!
Way to go, epagonizomai, and let this be a lesson to all!
Jim
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