Jan 27, 2010 01:09 pm I own a Delta 44 and an XBoard49, I can't complain about either. A couple of great pieces of gear for a home recordist. Don't forget that you'll need preamps for the Delta though.
delta 44 + xboard 49 or line 6 KB37?
Posted on Jan 27, 2010 12:10 pm
sirhc
Chris
Member Since: Aug 25, 2008
i asked this in a topic not to far down but its a totally different question so..
basically i need a 4 channel interface...
and i want some type of keyboard...
and for as cheap as possible, without degrading quality of the audio!
the above options are both around $285 and thats as much as i want to pay so...
any opinions?
thanks everyone!
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Jan 27, 2010 01:09 pm I own a Delta 44 and an XBoard49, I can't complain about either. A couple of great pieces of gear for a home recordist. Don't forget that you'll need preamps for the Delta though.
Jan 27, 2010 01:41 pm thanks for the input, and i also have a mixer with 4 pre amps so really the extra pre amps on the line 6 would be "extra"!
Jan 27, 2010 04:21 pm Well, i'm fairly sure that the KB37 is only a 2 input device. But if i remember correctly you have another interface, right? You could use both. I personally think the KB37 will be a better deal since you'll be getting all kinds of processing software bundled with it, good quality stuff too. But if you absolutely need 4 MORE inputs than what you already have, and don't need processing as much, go with the Delta or something similar.
Really though, that processing is more useful than you'd believe for the price Line 6 gives it to you for. Vocals come out great, and Even on VST's, i've been experimenting running my synth threw some guitar effects and preamps, there's a lot of options.
Jan 27, 2010 05:33 pm this wasnt a good topic.. its making my decision harder ahah
straight from line 6 site
2 XLR inputs with mic preamps and +48V phantom power
2 Guitar/Bass Inputs – use the Pad input for guitars and basses with high level pickup outputs, or the normal input
there 1/4 inch female jacks... so i believe with 2 pre amps (from my mixer) i could make use of those inputs...
that is unless its the 2 xlr OR the 2 1/4" inputs????
but in the end, yes i have a 2 input interface already... and since these options are usb, i can keep my 2496 and also get use of the midi in/out on it if ever needed!
also the xboard 49 come with
Xboard Control™ software lets you easily create custom setups for your favorite hardware/software instruments
Includes full version of E-MU's Proteus X2 Streaming Sound Module with over 3GB of sounds, as well as three additional sound libraries (Mo'Phatt X, Planet Earth X and Protean Drums X) for an additional 1,500 instruments (Windows only)
soo im not sure if this software is that good...
Jan 27, 2010 06:09 pm Hmm. Anyone here own a KB37? i'm still fairly certain its a 2 channel interface. The UX2 has multiple (2) XLR and (2) 1/4 inch jacks as well, but its still only a 2 channel interface. I'm not sure how it works, but it can only send signals from two at a time.
Think of it like this, on the desk next to me sits my mixer. Channels 1-4 each have a 1/4 inch jack and XLR jack. Thats 8 technical inputs, but still only 4 channels. And if you plugged more into it, either you'd hear input from each, but couldn't control it. Or something crazy bad would happen and i don't think i want to test that out :P
Now with the interface, it has 4 or 6 inputs. But within your "soundcard" options on the PC (as the KB37 is now acting as your usb soundcard) you choose which 2 inputs are actually recorded. And the others are basically muted.
I know i didn't explain that the best lol. Sorry. Ask me if you need anything clarified. But the bottom line is that the KB37 is probably a 2 channel interface. And if thats all you need, is the 2 inputs plus your 2496 inputs, i'd say go line 6. Simply because i am 100% certain you'll be satisfied with a quality piece of equipment. But as tad said, he can't complain about the delta either.
So correct me if i'm wrong. But i'd say if these things are about the same price, and you don't need more inputs than what the Line 6 will expand you on, it comes down to which software will benefit you more.
The Xboard Control software SOUNDS cheap to me, and basically just lots of GM midi stuff that you won't really use. That said, i assumed PodFarm was going to be a piece of crap as well until i tried it :P maybe Tadpui can shed some light on the quality of these instruments.
Jan 27, 2010 06:19 pm I own it, it kicks ***, it is 2 channels. Each channel can be line or mic, one of the two, not both.
Jan 27, 2010 06:49 pm Also remember that when using ASIO drivers, you can only use 1 device at a time unless the manufacturer specifically allows chaining devices. So you wouldn't be able to use both your Audiophile and your KB37 for simultaneous inputs.
M-Audio does allow chaining of their devices, so you can have multiple Delta cards for example.
Oh, and about the software that comes with the XBoard, it's pretty damn good for bundled software. Proteus X2 is a pretty good VSTi, but EMU is just about to drop support for Proteus X and Emulator X in lieu of their new Emulator X3 VSTi/sequencer. They're offering a free download of Proteus VX now, which is cool. It takes care of some compatibility problems that Proteus X2 had with Reaper for me.
Anyways, the sound libraries that come with Proteus X2 are pretty sweet. I got all of these bundled libraries with my XBoard:
- Protean Drums (all sorts of great quality acoustic and electronic drum kits)
- X Producer (all sorts of synths, sound effects and instruments)
- Planet Earth X (world music percussion and instruments)
- Mo'Phatt (tons of electronic drum kits for hip hop)
- Beat Shop One (loops, loops, and more loops for hip hop and stuff)
- Studio Grand (a bunch of great quality pianos and other keys)
It's more sounds than I could ever use. Not all of them are great, but the drum kits, acoustic pianos, synthesizers, sound effects, are all pretty awesome. Proteus X is an OK VSTi. I wish I could route each piece of a drum kit to its own track in my DAW for instance, but at least it has built-in effects and mixing so I can at least get a good stereo mix. But having export ability and control over individual pieces of a drum kit would be nice.
I'm just now starting to get a little more into how to use Proteus X, but since its my first MIDI instrument, I still have a loooooooooooooong way to go. A guy could spend 8 hours a day with this stuff and still not learn it all in a lifetime!
Jan 27, 2010 07:43 pm Quote:
So you wouldn't be able to use both your Audiophile and your KB37 for simultaneous inputs.
I believe WDM can use more than one, but I think I tried it once in Reaper but couldn't get R to see more than one interface. I may not have been doing all correctly, but just thought I'd throw that out there.
Maybe, it's more like you can record with one interface, but playback on another.
hmm, i'll have to try this more and see.
I dl'ed the free proteus, and I think i liked it better than the free NI bundle they released around the same time.
as an aside, i just dl'ed the newest NI bundle, and the stuff in there is very nice.
Jan 27, 2010 11:16 pm thanks everyone i appreciate it..
well i do get a larger keyboard with the xboard... and less risk
so i think thats what il do..
just dl'ed the proteous vx.. with my comp keyboard im having some fun haha
i found a prog that allows you to set up which ever keys as any midi note... and if you use it with midi yoke its 20% of what a real keyboard is xD if anyone ever reading this wants it just guestbook me
oh and can podfarm be used as any other vsti with any keyboard?
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