Simple? Mixing Question
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Posted on May 31, 2009 07:28 pm
bazz
Member Since: May 31, 2009
I have an old 12 Channel Peavey Mark 2 mixing board. I've never used mixers and stuff but I'm just trying to record my Synthesizer to my computer.
As far as getting the right output, I have some questions.
There is a panel called "Line Outputs" and there is a panel called "Outputs"
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I am using an audio interface to get it on my computer.
Which output(s) go to my audio interface (a presonus firebox) from the mixer?
Also, the monitor jack on the mixer is broken, I'll have to solder a new one in sometime. But, is it necessary?
I just want to do the mixing correctly. Thanks for the help :)
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bazzMember
Since: May 31, 2009
May 31, 2009 07:29 pm Deleted By bazz
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 31, 2009 08:22 pm Are you using the mixer at all to monitor what is coming back out of the computer?
bazzMember
Since: May 31, 2009
May 31, 2009 10:14 pm Um, I have my headphones plugged into the Mixer output, so aren't I sort of doing that? I'm hearing what is going into the computer. I'm not expecting to hear anything else from the computer though, like there's no software sound.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 01, 2009 06:15 pm Well if your synth is stereo you can use the sub a and sub b outputs. Assign the right channel of the synth to the sub b out and left to the sub a out. If it is just mono then just use sub a.
This will allow you to actually take the output of your Presonus and put it into a couple of channels and here what the computer is playing back at the same time and mix it properly if you just let that playback through the normal channel mix.
bazzMember
Since: May 31, 2009
Jun 02, 2009 06:44 am So output the presonus back to my mixer again? Not sure I understand your last point. I wouldn't be having what i'm playing and what the presonus is outputting play at the same time would I?
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Jun 02, 2009 11:18 am By telling your DAW to output to the presonus and then routing the presonus to your mixer you will have the ability to hear both the pre-recorded tracks and what you are currently tracking through the headphone out on your mixer.
bazzMember
Since: May 31, 2009
Jun 02, 2009 12:23 pm But wouldn't that cause the pre-recorded tracks to get recorded again since the mixer is going into the interface inputs?
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Jun 02, 2009 01:16 pm No, because you'll be telling the mixer channel that has your instrument(s) to output to the computer via the SUB OUTS (A & B), as Noize pointed out. You then assign the channel that the computer comes into to output via the MAIN OUTS... which go to your monitors. : )
bazzMember
Since: May 31, 2009
Jun 02, 2009 04:34 pm Ok, sounds good. But on this mixer I don't see how I can assign the channels
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Jun 02, 2009 06:26 pm It is simple to do, if your board can handle it. I can't find anything for a manual and can't see your pic on my work PC (also, to post pics just put the address, no need for code).
I will look when I get home, you may need to post some more pics of it though.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 02, 2009 08:47 pm I'll try and download the manual tomorrow, but there should simply be buttons on each channel down by the channel slider marked A, B and C that will assign the channel to the selected sub out. or if nothing is pressed it goes to the mains. Or possibly there is a Main button as well.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Jun 02, 2009 09:18 pm Oh shucks... I thought Noize knew that mixer had a sub bus. Ooops.
No monitor out? I missed that. This may be trickier than I thought.
bazzMember
Since: May 31, 2009
Jun 03, 2009 06:21 am Yeah.. I want to solder a new one in but the jack is underneath everything, it's hard to get my hands at it, let alone a soldering iron. So I dunno, that might not happen.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Jun 03, 2009 08:19 am Right. I looked at the manual last night, and couldn't see how to designate your sub bus send. Maybe, they just go there, and the level is set by the fader? I'd give hooking things up that way to see if that is how this puppy works.
bazzMember
Since: May 31, 2009
Jun 03, 2009 09:52 am Yeah they automatically go there. Right now I'm doing things this way:
I got my headphones plugged into the Line outputs Headphone jack, which is controlled by 2 knobs that adjust the A and B levels.
I got SubA&B going to my interface (a firebox). I control those levels with faders..
It's kind of ghetto to do it this way I guess but I don't see any other decent ways. The only thing that sucks is I can't hear playback now, since all of the channels are going into both my headphone output and the Subs outputs, I just happen to be able to control the levels seperately (at least I can do that!). It seems I don't have any way of separating what I want to only get played back and what gets sent to my interface when I record :(
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Jun 03, 2009 02:28 pm Why not rip the mixer out of the chain and simply plug your syth into the presonus? From what I can tell there is no need for the mixer unless I am missing something here.
Synth to firebox 3/4
Monitors/Headphones out of firebox will allow monitoring of the inputs and outputs.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 03, 2009 07:04 pm Ya, Tripps makes a good point. If you simply take the mixer out of the equation you'll be good as gold. You really don't need the mixer in there at all.
But ya, no switching at all. It simply feeds off the main stereo buss. It is not a true sub channel output.
bazzMember
Since: May 31, 2009
Jun 04, 2009 09:22 am Ya, it is true that I could do it without the mixer. The reason why I was using the mixer is because my synth has 4 "slots," basically buffers for each sound. These can be played simultaneously or split over the keyboard etc. While I could just have it output in stereo, There are also outputs for each slot, so I was actually using 4 channels on the mixer and sending that in stereo to my interface. But whatever, I don't really need that control right now, so I'll just go direct into my interface. Thanks for the help everyone.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Jun 04, 2009 11:05 am If your synth has 4 outputs why not use all 4 inputs of the firebox. The two on the front accept 1/4" as well as XLR it looks like.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 04, 2009 08:09 pm Tripps is right. You can do exactly what you were doing with the mixer right on the firebox.