Apr 13, 2009 10:55 am I like it, but I think the height of the top banner is too much...make that shorter will push the image of the band beneath it up higher on the page.
It's about an inch too tall me thinks.
New Homepage... whad'ya think?
Posted on Apr 13, 2009 10:53 am
Hue
Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Member Since: Apr 11, 2004
theWent has been busy puting together a new site for our newish band, "LOG".
Nothing too special, the site gives a brief history of the two of us as writers within the few bands that we've written for. Also, there are a couple of older songs of ours posted(as a test-run) along with the usual slideshow of pics.
Just thought I'd run this thing by you guys who have site building experience, to see if there is some obvious mistakes we've made in its construction, or if anyone has some other ideas to throw at it to make it any better than it is. : )
It should be accessable from my Homepage link, on this thread.
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Apr 13, 2009 10:55 am I like it, but I think the height of the top banner is too much...make that shorter will push the image of the band beneath it up higher on the page.
It's about an inch too tall me thinks.
Apr 13, 2009 10:59 am Cool, thanks for checkin' it out, Deebs!
I think that's a good call. We could prolly do without the 'Welcome..." part, and simply place those words into the scrolling banner. That should do it... about an inch.
Apr 13, 2009 06:34 pm Nice, I'll have to check it out a little further later. But looks pretty cool for sure. The green is... Well green I guess. :-)
Very cool though indeed. Nice bio on the band as well.
Apr 14, 2009 12:07 am Thanks Noize.
I want to get some newer tunes on there for sure, though... I can't believe he picked those. : p
Apr 14, 2009 07:11 pm Well, putting the smooth music video was a must for sure though. That one has to stay. And you gotta have the old and new going so its all good.
Apr 15, 2009 02:44 pm Quote:
The Band " Lords Of Green", aka LOG, hail from the dark recesses of Detroit Michicgan
Spelling Police!
I agree, top too high (hmmm), it takes up primo real estate, which you want for your content.
I also don't cotton to scrolling text. It's fairly nixed on websites now-a-days.
Also, i'd put text with the images, and slow them down. I was totally entertained by the slideshow, as it went along with the music, but having text (and being able to read it) would have been extra nice.
nice though.
Apr 16, 2009 07:37 pm The slide show player has a slider to slow down the pictures. I agree though, put text with the rest of the pic's. Would be way cooler indeed.
Apr 24, 2009 10:16 am Awesome guys. I've passed along the input to Went, who is the guy with the time to do this stuff.(albeit, the guy who can't spell and likes to scroll text) Your input is well appreciated! Hopefully he'll be able to accomodate these changes...quite good ideas! Thanks again for checkin' 'er out.
Edit: I just went into the site, and put the pic-cations in, m'self. That was easy enough. : ) I'm not fixin' his spelling errors, though.
Apr 24, 2009 10:03 pm Give him the speel chucker for his berthdae.
Apr 25, 2009 02:01 am I think he's fine as long as he takes the time to use his speel chuck. It's when he rushes things that he looses his mind. I mean, c'mon... "Spewing musical truth on a path of green." It sounds cool and all, but... what does that mean!?!?
I once seen him spell Cadillac with a 't'. Which leads me to believe that he's actually borderline savant... 'cause the musical talent of Went is 180-degrees from his spelling skills.
Man, would he be mad at me if he seen this part of the thread. 8 { lol : p
Apr 25, 2009 03:28 pm Spewing musical truth on a path of green
Ya, I'm still trying to figure out what he meant there.
Apr 27, 2009 11:19 am Yes, I understand. Of course, it's not really our job to be as confused as theWent, is it? 8 p
That is the one paragraph that I did not write on that page. Everything else is from moi. I'm sure that there are a couple typos here or there, but I digress... we do love our Went.
Apr 27, 2009 06:23 pm Oh yes, he has been the entertaining factor on many an evening in this house. From the years you have posted his different stuff. And as well commented on his antic's.
The luv for his oddness is spread around I'm pretty certain.
May 30, 2009 09:03 pm Made a few of the changes we discussed, and added a new song.
Let me know what ya's think... especially regarding the changes on the Home page.
The song: 'Marry And Her Sheep' is just a once-through jam that happened along one night...theWent went back the next morning and added the lyrics. : p
We've still got a long way to go with the site, but I think we're headed in the right direction.
May 31, 2009 07:47 am I like the looks of the homepage, though the four logos at the bottom look like a Led Zep knockoff to me. It looks good tho, nice work.
The titlebar, however, just says "home Page"...should say "Lords of Green - Rock and Roll Music blah blah blah" or some such thing to get indexed in search engines under better keywords.
May 31, 2009 11:27 am haha Yeah dB, the four symbols cracked me right up when I seen them. Total Zed ripoff! I was like "Uhm... Went, you do realize that's been done before, right?" lol
Oh well, let him have his fun I guess. Could be worse.
As far as the home page title goes, I'll have him give it some attention. Good catch, thanks!
Shucks, I just looked at the site myself, and it appears that he's been busy since last night when I last seen it.(crosses fingers) Let's hope he doesn't get too crazy with it... I liked where we had it last night. = /
May 31, 2009 01:47 pm Agree on the Zep knock off logo thing as well. Cool indeed though.
Are you sure you want to navigation bars though. One above and one below the picture strip at the top?
checked out Mary and Her Sheep as well. I'd like to hear the vocals a little better, but it was another kind of dark and out there piece that could easily fit in a horror or sci fi B movie for sure.
I had to laugh when I clicked on the lowly paly button just sitting there above the player. I laughed my arse off when I heard that introduction.
Other then that, its really green.
Jun 01, 2009 02:34 pm The walrus makes me laugh.
It's cool. I love how you have green beer bottles to go with the theme in your picture on the artists page.
Constructive Crit... The repeating logo behind the menu bar kind of makes the menu hard to read. The visited links turn dark grey which makes them extremely hard to read (unless you hover over them). It looks good on the LOG cares page though...
Jun 01, 2009 03:47 pm Y'a know, that sounds a lot like what I had to say about the 'repeating logo' thing. Glad to see it's not just me on that one. Thanks for taking the time to check it out, Coolo. Much appreciated! Glad you dig Loafy, our on-staff walrus! There'll more of him as time goes by. : )
Jun 19, 2009 09:56 pm Hey guys! I just had to direct y'as back to the site to check out this new recording we've done. It's just... so... so... 'wrong'. I know you'll like it! haha Think Van Morrison meets Suicidal Tendencies! It's on the front page under "Loafys Raw Cut Of The Week".
This is also a great display of our new recording process. We've gone back to the roots, really. Instead of doing all individual tracks on every-single-noise-making-device, we've been resorting to simple stereo tracks... as in. push 'record', and GO. No writing, no initial preconceptions, other than what 'may' make a good song... maybe. Bah! It is just a bit weird, but I must say I'm surprised that we get as many 'keepers', like this one, as we do. When we do get one, we go over it the next day to add vocals, and tweak things here and there... the idea is to be 'minimal' with the tweaking/arranging. Take some of the work out, and at the same time reinforce the fun-factor!
Anyway, check this out if you will... let us know if we're on to something here. {: 3= (<-- that's a walrus!!!!)
Jun 19, 2009 10:06 pm Oh, this may be relevant, or not... everything was recorded DIRECT.
Guitar 1 --> FloorPOD.
Guitar 2 --> Flextone Direct Outs.
Bass --> MaxBass Preamp.
Drums --> Boss DR770 Drum Doctor... played real-time by our drummer... with his friggin fingers!
BWAHAHAhahhahaaa!!!
It makes me happy. I don't care if the mix is fried.
AND Don't forget to listen to our Loafie-Walrus... he has a (relatively) new message with each new jam posted.
Jun 19, 2009 11:50 pm Hue, I'm going to check it out tomorrow. Getting a bit late and I need to be up early.
And yes, I will listen to Loafie.
Jun 20, 2009 12:19 am Cool beans, bud!
I know you're gon'na like this one, fer sure.
it's still crackin' me up! : p
Jun 20, 2009 06:47 am "Moondance" is indeed very cool. It's an interesting version, to say the least. Gotta love the finger drums!
I think Loafy might have said the "F" word.
::EDIT:: I just watched the "Smooth" video...that IS frickin' awesome!
Jun 20, 2009 08:07 am Thanks Dan, and Jim!
He's such a good sport about the finger-drum thing. I know it's killin' him not to be flailin' away on a real kit.
Loafy said that?!? Thanks for bringing that to my attention, Jim. He will be dealt with appropriatetly. {: 3= Bad walrus! Get off the couch, Loafy!!! He didn't show up to change the Raw Cut introduction, either... so, you heard what we had to do about that. We'll fix it, though. We're not out to offend anyone... on that level, anyway. Thanks.
Yeah, we didn't see Went at all for the coupl'a weeks it took him to put the Smooth parody video together. In fact this Moondance tune is a bit of a throwback to that Musical Challenge that Bleak initiated.
Yup, this is your fault, Bleaky! You gave us an excuse to cover songs like this, while maintaining some sense of a musicians-self esteem. lol
Jun 20, 2009 09:47 am I noticed that the bit-depth-rate on this track is really messing with it. I just might post it here, as well. I think that may be a step or two better in quality.
Jun 20, 2009 04:31 pm Well, just checked it out and I think its cool in its raw state. I kinda like stuff like that. Especially if you know its for having fun. The drums worked out cool for being a DR with fingers going. I like the way it turned out myself.
Jun 20, 2009 06:00 pm Fun for sure! haha No, I wouldn't try to sell it, that's for sure.
Definitely is a more effective rep of where we are coming from at any given time. It's a bit odd being that intimate with just 'anyone'. But I think it is something a lot of artists are lacking in... that blatant truth of the process. I understand that it can be less than 'perfect', but that is the reality of it. I've always believed/preached... document your arts evolution. Don't just capture it in it's static state. It's so important to remember who you were, and how you became what you are now. Even if it's not what you would prefer, ; )
Let's just say, I prefer it's honesty to that of the hammering-out of the tracking procedure. It doesn't replace it, but... I knew you'd appreciate it.
Jun 20, 2009 09:23 pm That's the perfect description of why that kind of straight out 2 track process works sometimes. If the players are comfortable together then it will usually work out and sound pretty together, which that piece does for sure.
And ya, a true honest sound is what you get by doing it that way. Straight up live.
Jun 20, 2009 11:44 pm Hell yeah, Noize!
The editing that we do 'the day after' is always quite minor. Very little, if any, cut n paste... more so dynamics tweaking.
I'd rather put together a collection of works like this for the demo, than mix all those tracks we already recorded. It's not going to happen for all the obvious reasons, but it would be nice to include one or two of these types of jams.
Thanks for checkin' her out guys!
Jun 21, 2009 01:21 am man seems yall have been productive up there.....heck you've changed it since i signed yer guest book last week, dig that main logo! i'll put some of the tunes up on the monitors *oh yeah, i have ears hooked up to my internet computer!*...some time tomorrow or the next day....
Jun 21, 2009 09:34 am Sweet! Glad y'a like it Chris.
Jun 23, 2009 01:05 pm I'm surprised that's finger drumming on Moondance. I'm not familiar with the original Moondance, so I think the effect goes over my head... but I like the idea of just recording some stuff for fun and putting it out. It comes out pretty good considering the technique!
Jun 23, 2009 01:18 pm Thanks Coolo! The original Moondance is a classic. Played at just about every wedding, since it was written, prolly. Our version didn't set out to be a cover from the start... more like, we recorded the jam, then found out that the lyrics would do well with it... in that sick kind'a way. = p Yeah, I'm likin' this jam-of-the-week thing... really 'naked' music!
Jul 10, 2009 11:55 am Alrighty guys...
We've started a section on the front page that we call "Loafys Jam Of The Week, Or So...", to have a place to put the recordings that document our process of musical evolution,(or de-evolution) as displayed by the typical 'back to you' jams that we have every week, or so. : )
These are jams that we press record, and just start playing. The editing that these songs go through can be described as minimal... just a few eq tweaks,compression, and then some lyrics/vox if the jam allows for it.
While the recordings are pretty solid, the low bit depth rate does mess with them a bit. My question is this: Are there any 'tricks' that we can do to help get more quality out of these posted jams? ie... Is there a way that we can aproach the process that will help with it's finished sound, before or after its conversion.
As described, they're put up every weeek or so, so you can check back from time to time to see just how well/poorly we're doing. ; )
Jul 10, 2009 10:42 pm OH ya, you know I'll be on it like stink on **** tomorrow. I'm swimming in busy at the moment.
Jul 12, 2009 02:24 pm I'm not sure how much more you can do to it on the way in really. Other then trying different spots to record the amps in and maybe different ways to do your isolation. The room your recording in is pretty big isn't it? I'd try facing amps differently and different miccing techniques and such. You can always twiddle the EQ a tiny bit on the mixer, although I'm not a big fan of that in this case you could brighten things up a bit or what not going in.
Are you doing any compressing at all on the way in? On the drums mix maybe go in with compression.
But as well on the overall mix you could smack it with some different compression to see if it tightens up the sound a bit.
although I'm partial to the kind of open room feel of the drums and such now. You could give them some pumping up and it might still retain the room sound.
How are you miccing the drums right now?
Jul 13, 2009 07:51 am [quote]Guitar 1 --> FloorPOD.
Guitar 2 --> Flextone Direct Outs.
Bass --> MaxBass Preamp.
Drums --> Boss DR770 Drum Doctor... played real-time by our drummer... with his friggin fingers!
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"Happ Baby Walruses" is the only 'live' track on the site, and was done before we left the old studio. Everything else is all modeled and direct-injected! When we mess around with it the next day, we're working with a sterio track of two guitars, the drum machine, and when the bass player shows up a bass. We do eq slightly on the way in for some of the instruments... very slightly. Went sometimes does a bit of vox on the first pass, but usually it's just something to mark where he wants a verse or chorus to start or end.
It's just that we have to use a low-low bit depth rates on the site, and well, you know what that does to stuff. Maybe if I eq the verb a bit... roll off the high end of just the verb somewhat.
Jul 14, 2009 04:31 pm I'll have to listen to the others then. I know I listened to the last one but not sure about the others.
Jul 14, 2009 05:03 pm I leave alot of the post-production to Went... maybe I should ask exactly what he's doing?
Sep 10, 2009 09:34 am Hey guys... Loafy's been busy!
We've got a new song up on the homepage called "Wellspring". Stop by and check it out, if you have a minute to give a listen, and say 'hi' to Loafy... he's been very lonesome lately... binging, and purging to excess. The poor, dumb walrus could use a kind word, or two to snap him out of his bulimic slump.
Thanks guys,
~Hue
Sep 10, 2009 10:05 pm I was just there looking at the skull's and forgot to listen. I'll have to stop back tonight or tomorrow and give it a wank.
I did say hi to Loafy though.
Sep 11, 2009 04:15 pm That was kinda scary. I liked the guitar on this one, can't name a real reason. Just sounded cool. It had an interesting dramatic horror movie kinda thing going.
I'm still partial to Space Tusk though, that ones my favorite so far. Had to listen to it a couple more times.
Sep 11, 2009 06:54 pm Thanks, bud. I'm diggin' Space Tusk the most, m'self... it's a a bit of a more bluesy direction for me with this band, and that clean, but heavily-delayed thing is new for me as well... just now really begining to get a real grip on the current rig, and use it to itss 'optimal expressiveness'. : )
We haven't had a JOTWOS in... well, "OS"... so, I'm very much looking forward to tonights. heh It's almost like a gig, doing a gig that you know is going to be recorded, and there is no music written for it... NONE. haha There is, of course the fail-safe option of simply not releasing it, though... but that's no damn fun at all! I would say, that outside of the most obvious intros/outros, vocals, and once and a while a guitar solo(very seldom)... each of these peices have maybe three or four 'noteable' changes from the initial word to "Go!", hit record, and begin to play. It's like playing a guessing-game with a blindfold on... the only way to win is to apply a formula that may equate to success, and then run with it and hope that everyone else that's playing 'gets it'. Then, we look back to see just how close to 'winning' we came,(you can never really and truly win this game haha) then sit down to apply the formula further to make the end-product as close to 'the right answer' as you can get. It sounds more complex that it is... afterall, we'r just jhaving a jam.
Quite a while back, fortymile mentioned something about how Uncle Dude keeps the 'writing time' of their songs to 'under five minutes'. That is an admiral approach, in my eyes. It 'forces-out' the intent behind your writing, and brings the process closer to the 'documentation' side of recording.
Sep 12, 2009 05:59 pm Yep, that is were I am bad most times. I take far too long to fully realize the original idea that started out simple. It most often ends up as a huge production. I need to follow your formula and just sit down and let it go and record what happens at that moment.
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