Jan 22, 2009 03:18 pm How many channles do you want?
multi channel recording
Posted on Jan 22, 2009 03:11 pm
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I kinda feel like a dumb *** for not really getting this because I took a recording class in college....but basically how do multi channel recorders work, in that how do they hook into a computer and what not....also what is a fairly low cost option for multi channel recording on my computer. Just to clarify, I mean recording on multiple channels all at once. Thanks.
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Jan 22, 2009 03:18 pm How many channles do you want?
Jan 27, 2009 02:40 pm As many as possible would be nice but at least 8 would be nice. I am looking to spend no more than 500 and preferably a lot less...like 200.
Jan 27, 2009 03:54 pm Delta 1010lt gives you 8 analog inputs (2 with preamps) but you'll have to engineer preamps for the other 6. Those are 200$us, i think. The external breakout box version (delta 1010) has same basic specs, but is 300 - 400, i think. You'd need preamps for that too, as all inputs are 1/4" line level.
I have an ESP1010 that's been nice for me. I use a mixer for a preamp bank, as the esp1010 has only 2 preamps also.
Both those are PCI solutions.
Presonus has their firepod / firestudio, etc. Tascam now has a 1641 that looks nice. There's Motu, but after reading about their support (or lack thereof) I don't know how much I would recommend them. But if you're inclined, the 8pre is in that list, for 550$us.
These options above are firewire, and have preamps on each channel. They are usually over 400$ though. You'd have to research for hard numbers.
Jan 28, 2009 02:07 pm so what is the benefit of the delta 1010lt vs the delta 1010? As far as I can tell the only benefit is getting the rack...so what does that really give me in terms of recording power, extras, etc?
Jan 28, 2009 03:12 pm well, i had a 1010lt for awhile.
They are cheaper, but they use RCA connections, instead of 1/4". I'm not real sure that RCA are worse, but I think that is the consensus. Getting the rack box is nice, as you can keep cable connections accessible, instead of behind the PC. Another plus is getting the converters out of the PC and in the rack. I'm not sure how much better this is also, but I'd much rather have as much analog stuff away from the PC as possible.
I think the 1010 has balanced in and out, where the 1010lt is rca, so unbalanced (except for the XLR, of course).
I have an ESP1010 now, which has a breakout box as well, and slightly better specs than the delta 1010. ALso, it was cheaper by 25% when I bought it. (299$ vs 399$ at the time)
The esp1010 has 2 headphone outputs, 2 midi ports, and a kick-butt program that lets you route any audio anywhere in your PC. So you can play winamp, and record into cubase (or sonar, or whatever). E-wire, or something like that. Very convenient for catching hard to catch stuff, or whatever. Plus, the drivers are very stable for ESP, the latency has been very low, and there's a few other users on here that have been very happy with ESI stuff (the two admins come to mind . . . )
Jan 28, 2009 09:47 pm And the breakout box is all balanced i/o. RCA is not balanced.
Jan 29, 2009 07:25 am I was basically choosing between that delta 1010lt and the esp 1010 but apparently it's discontinued and I cannot find it in stock anywhere, so I'll probably go with the delta 1010lt seeing as I can get it for about $175 online and it's in stock. I do have a couple questions about it though....can I record midi, xlr, 1/4, spdif, and optical all at once or is there some limitations with that? Also, any other information or ideas would be a great help, as much of the information I have already gotten has been. Thanks.
Jan 29, 2009 08:44 am Here's the new version: PCIe, instead of PCI.
www.floridamusicco.com/pr...od~esp1010e.htm
500 clams (US clams, that is), so there's that. < ouch >
I think you can record with all those inputs you mentioned on the 1010lt. 2 xlr, (6) RCA, 1 midi, and 1 (or maybe stereo) spdif. It should receive all at the same time, no problem.
Note, that you will need preamps for the other 6 analog inputs (RCA). If you're plugging line level signals into them, then you're all set. But microphones will need preamps for each channel. I use a mixer for my preamp bank.
Jan 29, 2009 08:49 am ALL inputs on the 1010lt can be armed and recording simultaneously provided your software is a compatible multitracking software such as Cakewalk Sonar, Steinberg Cubase, ProTools M-Powered, Adobe Audition, Reaper...etc. Not knowing your current software knowledge, I thought I would throw that out there just in case because there are audio programs out there that only record audio in stereo such as Cool Edit Pro and Adobe Soundbooth. So make sure you have Multitrack software and you should be good to go. The 1010lt will probably come with a 'Lite' version of a multitrack DAW I'm sure.
Jan 29, 2009 09:43 am Yeah, I think I'll go for the 1010lt, thanks a lot for the help.
Feb 05, 2009 01:48 pm I use the 1010lt and its great.
had no problems with it at all.
we use a basic 8 channel mixer, with insert sockets.
so you can plug all your mics into the mixer to use the pre amps, than get a lead from each Track insert to the 1010lt.
Feb 05, 2009 02:50 pm Yeah, what he said ^^^
You can use channel insert on a mixer, to tap signal out from each mixer channel, right after the preamp and gain knob. I do this still, with my rig.
Use 1/4" mono patch cable, but only push the plug in to the first indent, or click. All the way in will stop signal through the mixer, and not send signal out through the patch cable.
I purchased a HOSA 8 channel snake from MF or zzounds, that has 1/4" mono on one end, and RCA on the other end:
www.zzounds.com.../item--HOSCPR80
Works a treat, it does. Plus you tap signal right away, so you don't have signal traveling all through the mixer, and out the outputs. nice
Feb 05, 2009 03:03 pm yup, that like my lead.
i tend to push all the way in.
simply because when recording with say 10 or 12 mics, you can get the Kick, snare, ... etc out on individual tracks..
... then if you are left with, say, 4 tom mics. you can mix these on the mixer, and take the stereo mix out on to 2 1010lt channels.
Sion.
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