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Posted on Jan 06, 2009 02:41 am
JDOD
Brother Number One
Member Since: Jan 22, 2008
dB/noise can you move this to "talking smack" I put it in the wrong place.
www.guardian.co.uk/commen...ion-advertising
They are actually doing it! It was on BBC London, local news this morning!
About time really when you think of all the other crap that is rammed down your throat when you are travelling around The City.
EDIT to add:
They've managed to get enough funding to go UK wide
www.justgiving.com/atheistbus
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Jan 06, 2009 11:52 am They are getting more publicity from the news reporting this non-event as legitimate news than the silly little ads will bring them.
Aren't they just another advertiser like any other?
Weird...but I guess when Paris Hilton buys gets a new boyfriend, it somehow makes news too, like it matters.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 06, 2009 02:19 pm Correction:
"There's probably no sense in advertising for or against religion. Now stop spending your money and feed your family!"
I'd be agitated to see either pro- or anti- religious sentiment pasted on the side of a bus. You'd think that there would be better forums in which to take up the matter.
Unless your bus is taking you on a field trip for the Church of Our Lady Of Eternal Homophobia or whatever, then let's keep our buses secular, what do you say?
Jan 06, 2009 03:14 pm Advertising of any kind is mostly ineffectual, a blight on the landscape and airwaves, and a waste of money. These signs won't change minds any more than the marquees in front of churches do.
Yup, I was gonna vote fer McCain 'til I saw that Obama yard sign down the street...
Jan 06, 2009 03:22 pm advertising for political, moral or religious things is silly, but it's not about changing minds, it's about mindshare I would suspect, brand recognition...so to speak.
For retail products and such it's all about marketing and advertising...well, that and product quality, but that takes second place to good advertising.
I always got disgusted when some anti-abortion group up here would post some of the most visually disturbing anti-abortion signs, I mean that group should have had charges brought against them...like I need a closeup of a dead fetus on the billboards on my way to work...ARGH!
Jan 06, 2009 03:55 pm Brand recognition... as in the ads that are so offensive as to force me to recognize the product as something vile and objectionable.
Word at you, Billy Mays.
Jan 06, 2009 05:27 pm move over, billy mays. there's a new pitchman in town!
(watch this--this is fantastic)
Jan 06, 2009 05:57 pm oh jeezuz, the "shamwow" guy is taking over...he is such a douchebag
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 06, 2009 07:37 pm Wow, that's early Vince.
That dude is the best, BM ain't got nothin on good ol' Vince.
That slap chop thing is great. And he is right. Most of the others you can't clean out like that.
Just sayin.
Jan 06, 2009 08:43 pm Vince is really the superior salesman. Depending on the product, I might actually buy something that he pitches.
It's a SHAM? WOW!
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 06, 2009 09:05 pm OH ya, Vince can put BM under any time without even trying.
He is so sincere in the ShamWow commercial.
Jan 06, 2009 10:45 pm That guy comes off to me as a total sleezeball/scammer/douchebag, he is such a douche in the shamwow commercial it makes my skin crawl.
He is like the Mike Damone (Fast Times at Ridgemont High ticket scalper) of infomercials...
Jan 07, 2009 12:15 am He has a chance in 2012, if he's 35 by then.
Jan 07, 2009 12:45 am vince is a sleazeball on purpose. it's fantastic. he's grasped the times and created this character deliberately. he's one with the zeitgeist. look at him--he's mocking pitchmen--he actually says 'you're gonna have an exciting life now.' haha--that's total BS and he knows it. that's what different about him. he's all postmodern. he lets you in on the joke. people like billy mays ask you to swallow their BS whole. i hate peeps like that.
Jan 07, 2009 01:08 am His schtick is nothing new. If anything, it's a throwback to the aggressive sales tactics of carnival barkers. The only thing he has over BM is a slightly lower delivery and a better editing staff.
Jan 07, 2009 01:40 am right it's a carnival barker style. but somehow it is new. he obviously knows how it looks next to 'ultra earnest' pitchmen. that's how it's postmodern. he wants you to be in on the joke if you can be. and if you're not, well then you are being hard sold. which technically, of course, fits the whole idea of this stuff anyway
JDODBrother Number OneMember
Since: Jan 22, 2008
Jan 07, 2009 05:02 am Sorry guys, when I said all the other crap advertised all over London. I didn't mean novelty kettles and electric pepper grinders. There's all sorts of odd religious groups offering to save your soul (for a fee) on the sides of our buses and on the tube.
The reason it made the news was that it was apparently "controversial" to put this slogan on a bus. I'd say its a hell of a lot less controversial that what is already on there, stated as fact by some religious groups already.
JDODBrother Number OneMember
Since: Jan 22, 2008
Jan 07, 2009 05:03 am I'd also prefer our buses were secular. I think that was kind of the point of the campaign though. Sort of Richard Dawkins (he started it) saying well if you can do it, why can't I?
Maybe it will make Transport For London think a bit harder about who they give add rights to.
Jan 07, 2009 06:15 am if you are selling advertising space, I wonder, legally, if you can limit who you sell to...I mean, if some "rock and roll is the devil" religious group wanted to buy ad space on HRC, legally, I wonder if I'd have to let them buy it...or be sued for discrimination of some sort...
Hmmmmm
Jan 07, 2009 06:26 am db dammit just start likini vince. come on. he's on your side. he is asking you to und3rstand where he's coming from.
hate franken. but you have to like vince or else you're not 'cool' anymore. haha
JDODBrother Number OneMember
Since: Jan 22, 2008
Jan 07, 2009 06:34 am Forty, I think you're in the wrong thread, mate..
Jan 07, 2009 07:17 am can't do it, I hate vince...sorry. :-)
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Jan 07, 2009 07:36 am the bus things just an excuse for a big piss up!
20 or so beers, i'll believe in anything.
still, even if anyone cares about the bus and has an issue with it...the bus still does its thing,
people whinge,
next day there's some other "big" thing happening, like, annual kiss a flower day.
and everyone forgets the previous.
not too life changing i woulda thought.
but the News channels think we think it is.
Jan 07, 2009 07:56 am some people just aren't happy unless they are pissing people off...those people own web sites :-D
...and apparently advertise on busses...
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Jan 07, 2009 08:10 am well, if yer pissing 'everyone" off, then ya probably getting 90% of people that deserve it, and the other 10% before they do it to you.
so its all good.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Jan 07, 2009 08:14 am it be easier if ya had a bus to just put a sign on it saying,
"you all suck"
then no ones confused.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 07, 2009 05:09 pm But forty is right.
Vince is the new pitch man for this century. As stated he does it on purpose knowing exactly what it looks like.
Why on earth do you thing he wears the stupid State Fair hawker's mic thing.
He appeals to the masses more because he is so obvious when he is making fun of it.
Yes, I find myself laughing out loud at him. Maybe it is with him though in reality.
Seems a lot of folks really admire him.
www.slate.com/id/2190658/
End thread jacking.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Jan 07, 2009 07:00 pm man they should drop a whole pallet of those babies in flood effected areas. thatll fix it!
and, with a 10 year warranty, you cant go wrong.
how do i order again?
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 07, 2009 11:51 pm Sorry, no sale. I can't get past the fact that there's some friggin freak screaming in my living room. My singular reaction is "That's gotta go!"
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 08, 2009 04:13 pm Ya, but he is a lot quieter then Billy is. I think that is the appeal to the common market is he is more subdued, yet still in your face.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 09, 2009 06:07 am As far as I'm concerned they are both excellent examples of why every TV should have a delete key.
Jan 09, 2009 06:08 am he's quieter, but just as much, dare I say more, of a douchewank.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 09, 2009 07:03 pm I'll agree he is a douchewank. But he is trying to be, so I'll give him credit as well.
Still, he is a douchewank then.
Nice word by the way.
Jan 09, 2009 09:08 pm from the article above (thanks noize):
"As my friend who’s been tempted by the Shamwow puts it: "What I think I like about Vince is that he is upfront and seemingly comfortable with his schtick. He appears to be saying, ’I am a carnie huckster, you know it and I know it, but that’s OK because this product is that good.’ ""
--exactly!
just get all the latest news out there on this:
billy mays disses vince in an interview:
www.pittsburghlive.com/x/...m/s_604864.html
vince does shamwow in bad spanish:
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Jan 09, 2009 10:22 pm a delete key on a TV! oh yeah that's what im talking about. good call.
well all the ads would go straight away, and in my case 90% of everything else too. makes me wonder why i even watch it.
ya never know something cool might come on.
like "Herbie goes banana's", what do ya know its on right now.
end: dribble.
Jan 09, 2009 11:42 pm Herbie Goes Bananas?
Quote:
Billy Mays: "I am the last pitchman trained on the boardwalk in Atlantic City, and I'm proud of it," Mays said. "I take it with a lot of pride and with a lot of honor."
This guy needs to learn what all good opera singers already know.
Billy, if you're reading this, please pay attention.
You're not working the Boardwalk any more. Once upon a time, there were invented cleverly devised electronic appliances called microphones, which transmit the sound of your voice for playback at a later time. Connected to the other end of the cable is a recorder which captures the sound of your voice. Other technologies between your performance and the recording enable the operators of said equipment to vary the level of your voice to be comfortable to the average listener. There are many operators between you and the television listener, and the abilities of some of them can be dubious at best.
The signal chain starts with you. Do you talk to your wife or your mother like that? In the last three years, you have shown complete and utter disregard for the fact that you don’t have to scream to be heard anymore.
You're fired.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 10, 2009 12:39 am Yer welcome forty.
Herb, nicely done indeed!
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Jan 10, 2009 03:27 am "There's probably no god. Now stop worrying, and enjoy your life."
There seems to be more fear in a statement like this, than support. I mean, doesn't it only 'count' if someone is actually seeking some sort of a generalized support structure at a bus stop for this to be any more potent than any other commercial. Every thing's for sale.
Pile it up! Pile it high!
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 10, 2009 09:05 am Well, it does add a new dimension to travel..... I found God at the airport! .... and lost him on the buss:(
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 28, 2009 04:57 pm Yep, never said he was an angel.
That is funny though for sure. She was biting his tongue and wouldn't let go. I'd probably come up swinging as well if some chic bit into my tongue.
Mar 29, 2009 03:52 pm
We found out about this in the FARK forums. I shopped a pic for the comment thread.
Lurch rocked.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 29, 2009 08:05 pm Nice Herb.
Mar 30, 2009 09:38 pm she was after all that slap chop money, so vince gave her the slap chop
Tripcunning linguistMember
Since: Mar 19, 2009
Apr 05, 2009 07:04 pm "There's probably no God"?
What kind of statement is that? Covering their own arses just in case there is?
JDODBrother Number OneMember
Since: Jan 22, 2008
Apr 06, 2009 02:34 am They had to say "Probably" for legal reasons.
