Dec 28, 2008 05:32 pm Well, outside of actually fixing the problem, you could simply mixdown to an outside sorce. Do a 'live' mixdown, if you will. Obviously fixing the issue would be the best call, but if not possible, there's that.
DESPERATELY need help rendering 5.1 surround project in Acid 5
Posted on Dec 28, 2008 05:21 pm
MidasM
Member Since: Dec 28, 2008
Dear sweet lord... I hope somebody can help me. When I attempt to render a 5.1 surround project in acid 5, the .wma files come out all choppy and schizophrenic.
It seems to do fine when I just switch the project to surround and leave all the pans to front/center...
But the thing sounds AMAZING when I center everything in the file... Mind blowingly full.
I'm new to mixing in surround, but I have no idea where to begin as far as correcting the problem. If I could just get what I'm hearing through Acid to play properly once it's rendered to a wma, I would seriously be the most exstatic happy guy on the planet.
PLEASE, somebody help me. I'm loosing my mind. :(
[ Back to Top ]
Dec 28, 2008 05:32 pm Well, outside of actually fixing the problem, you could simply mixdown to an outside sorce. Do a 'live' mixdown, if you will. Obviously fixing the issue would be the best call, but if not possible, there's that.
Dec 28, 2008 05:37 pm Hey, thanks for the speedy response man. It renders goofy no matter how many tracks I have; the main file has like 20, but a regular 2 channel mix of it, when I bring it into acid and switch it over to a surround project, still has the same problem as soon as I set it to play through a center channel. And that's just one track. From online documentation I've read, it seems like it should be pretty simple. I just CANNOT figure out what I'm doing wrong. :(
Dec 28, 2008 05:41 pm Have you tried to export the audio as AC3 or any other format capable of 5.1 to see if it is just the .wma format that is doing it?
It could be an improper encoder or any number of things. By your description it sounds as though the pluggin for the .wma encoder is not working since you can pan it all centered and it works fine.
It is possible that your system is not able to handle the export, but if it plays it then it should be able to export it.
You may also need to set a buffer up higher as it sound like it might be choking while it is processing. Although again, if it plays it then it should export it.
Dec 28, 2008 05:46 pm The ac3 plugin is like $200.00, and I don't have it, nor can I really afford it, unfortunately. What other formats would you guys recommend I try?
I also know nothing about encoders in general. I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to these things. I suck. I know.
But seriously, this is sonically the greatest song I've ever produced when it's all centered; I just can't bring it back to the 2 channel mix and live with myself.
The really weird thing is, I can hear the mix playing more or less perfectly UNDERNEATH all the cutting. So the track plays, but every millisecond is filled with, for example, a snare that will cut P-P-P-POP to a sample that does the same; it just seems to randomly pick noises from the mix to chop up; it sounds like when your PC locks up with an audio file playing. But the song plays uninterupted underneath it all.
Dec 28, 2008 06:12 pm I am also aware that it's possible to render 6 mono .wav tracks out of a Acid 5.1 Surround project - the 5 speaker tracks and the low frequency track..
I assume there is a way to somehow recompile these 6 tracks into a 5.1 surround mix?
That could be a work around? Does anybody know how I'd go about doing such a thing?
Any advice is greatly appreciated here.
Dec 28, 2008 06:41 pm OK, lets role back here a bit. What version of Acid are you using. Version 6 and 7 both came with the AC3 export option. You just cannot import AC3 files.
I am still trying to find out which version's can export wma in surround as well. Can't really see anything right off though. So I am wondering if that might be part of the issue as well.
Dec 28, 2008 06:46 pm AS for exporting single files and then importing them into something else. YAa, you can do that in Sonar, Sound Forge, Wavelab and a few others. But none of the above are cheap alternatives.
That would be a bigger investment then upgrading to the latest version of Acid if that is what it takes.
Dec 28, 2008 06:46 pm I'm on Acid 5. I've followed the instructions for exporting surround files to the letter, and tried every varient of it I can think of.
It is sooooo unbelievably frustrating. Especially considering I'm more familiar with Acid than anyone I know, so there's really noone to go to. :(
Stewie kicks rump, by the way.
Edit: I have Sound Forge 6.
Dec 28, 2008 07:06 pm SF 6 was the first version of SF to do 5.1 so yes it can work for doing the import individual tracks thing.
I would hit up Sony tech support and ask them what might be up with the problem you are having. There is nothing I have come across that would cause that issue. It would be odd but what kind of audio interface are you using? It is possible, but not likely that could be something there as well.
Dec 28, 2008 07:07 pm Audio Interface?
I track into Acid through a mixer, then pull the tracks over a network to a seperate computer to mix.
Is that what you mean?
Dec 28, 2008 07:14 pm Audio Interface?
Um, that would be how you get the sound into your computer in the first place.
Does sound card ring a bell? What mixer then are you using?
Why would you move the tracks to a different computer to mix if your already recording to a computer? I'll assume your recording and mixing with the same program/version or is that not correct?
Dec 28, 2008 07:20 pm The sound card in the tracking room is a Delta 44. The mixer is a little 8 track analog Yamaha.
Edit: I mix on a toshiba latop, and have no custom soundcard.
The reason I use different computers is a long story, involving jam space, girlfriends, wiring, and the planet Jupiter. But it works for me, and has for 5 years now.
Yes, I use the same versions of both Acid and Soundforge on both computers.
Edit: Even bringing in a Pink Floyd .mp3 and setting it to a 5.1 surround project... It sounds great. But when I pan it to dead center front/back/left/right, it renders with the weird "epileptic sampling" over the track.
Dec 28, 2008 08:07 pm OK, that makes it better then. As long as your doing everything in the same program that will eliminate those issues.
OK, so I'm wondering then why your using a surround set up if your simply panning everything dead center.
Are you using the surround buss on the main or on every track? Something has to be having miss communication between the surround panning buss and the main.
I'm just shooting out ideas here.
Can you explain exactly exactly how all the tracks are routed through Acid down to the end to the main.
|
Related Forum Topics: |
If you would like to participate in the forum discussions, feel free to register for your free membership.