I gotta figure this out - beatles snare
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Posted on Aug 26, 2008 11:29 am
thenorth
Member Since: Aug 26, 2008
Ok..
im slightly new to this board.. I have a question about a drum sound..
If you look at the two beatles songs "Free as a bird" and "Real love" youl see that the snare sounds in both songs are completely different than any other beatles song ever recorded.. and im not sure if its because they had Jeff Lynne working on it... but i want to figure out what gear was used..how they mic'd the snare basically.. how to get that drum sound.. if anybody knows ..that would be awesome..
Thankyou!
jordan
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Sep 03, 2008 11:19 am nobody knows? commmoonnn....
Sep 03, 2008 11:38 am Can't say that I know off hand on how they mic'ed the snare. Or even what mic's they used. But, you can find out.
There is a book that my wife was reading that was written by the recording engineers from their studio.
I'll have to find out what the name of the book is. They listed all of the gear that they used, and how they achieved certain sounds.
McMerkinHobbyist musician,pro recorderMember
Since: May 15, 2007
Sep 03, 2008 06:32 pm It is a Jeff Lynne thing, he mics the snare close and then mics it from across the room and blends the two sounds together.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Sep 03, 2008 08:34 pm I don't know the link off hand but someone once posted a link to a place that told a lot of what was used and how it was used.
But ya, it is as McMerkin stated. I dual tracked snare sound. One close mic and one room mic, hitting the snare only.
That actually only happens when it really stands out.
McMerkinHobbyist musician,pro recorderMember
Since: May 15, 2007
Sep 03, 2008 10:53 pm A few other things about the snare sound...if you make the room mic as loud as the direct snare mic you will get the big boomy and delayed sound. As close as one can get without buying expensive equipment (or plug-ins).
Because Lynne uses massive limiting/compression as the final step of that sound.
Jeff uses an old 1960's Universal Audio Blue Face 1176 Peak Limiter (2 actually, paired for stereo with a special adapter to avoid dips going to one channel or the other), and he squashes the hell out of the signal (three times...recording, mixing and mastering).
Sep 04, 2008 12:51 am yeah i was thinking compression/tape saturation and a bit of distortion on a room mic (or on a reverb plugin') can give a similar song to free as a bird.
reminds me of a prerequisite to a NIN style distorted snare.
real love is a slightly dryer version of the same...lots of saturation and sustain (perhaps loose snares aswell) heck, throw some BB's inside the drum.
McMerkinHobbyist musician,pro recorderMember
Since: May 15, 2007
Sep 04, 2008 10:35 am LOL....BBs...
Yes, some have suggestd loosening the snare as well for that Lynne sound....
Sep 05, 2008 12:25 am Quote:
I had wood the whole time I was reading it.
HAHAHA LMAO, Thats over-sharing
Sep 05, 2008 05:04 pm that helps out a lot guys... thankyou!!!
my close friend owns a recording studio..with a ton of vintage gear so ...i will have to try my hand at some of this...
jordan