Aug 20, 2008 04:39 pm try going to the site through archive.org
Anyone have the L'S.A.M.P HELP page saved??
Posted on Aug 20, 2008 02:41 pm
McMerkin
Hobbyist musician,pro recorder
Member Since: May 15, 2007
Alright, a few years back there was a freeware program, Leon's Simple Audio
Mastering Program, which had a parametric EQ and two compressors. I have had the program for quite some time, but hadn't used it, and in the old days for help it would go to a help page on the website itself.
The EQ part I have no problem with but I need to know what Leon's specific
parameters are for how he setup the compressors. And now the software
apparently no longer exists, the page I am sent to (directly from the
program to the help page) [lanasoft.com], also no longer exists. The page lists it but there is no real link, it's a come-on for buying other things.
So I wonder if:
a.) Anyone uses it who might be able to explain the ratio/threshold/attack
parameters *the way Leon set them up* (I already know what they are and how
to use them on a normal unit). In other words, how did HE mean to use these settings?
OR:
b.) If anyone saved the html of the original help page?
I know this is obscure.
THANKS!
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Aug 20, 2008 04:39 pm try going to the site through archive.org
Aug 22, 2008 06:34 pm Thanks, nothing there though...
Aug 22, 2008 10:19 pm Ya, I'm not finding anything in any archives at all. It is all dead links.
As for using it, I don't know of anyone who has used it.
Aug 22, 2008 10:25 pm google cache maybe?
Aug 22, 2008 10:46 pm Nothing really checking the cache pages either. Still many dead links.
Aug 23, 2008 12:45 am Took me a while, but I managed to find a *working* (through email link) download for LSAMP version 5.0.0.2.
This post got me interested and I wanted to see what it's all about. After checking for viruses and other baddies the installation in Vista HP SP1 went flawless. No help is available of course as McMerkin already pointed out.
Having LSAMP installed gave me the possibility to make a screen shot and post it here. I'm sure that Noize or somebody else can give more info just by looking at it. (There is only ONE screen!)
I ran a quick test with the values as shown in the picture and there was a clear difference in overall loudness and dynamics.
Notes:
The red and blue circles are push buttons: red is ON and blue if OFF.
The EQ and compressor values can be changed with the blue "wheels" next to them.
Aug 23, 2008 04:34 pm Nice find then Nightcap.
Can you post a link or address to find this at then?
I will take a look later tonight or tomorrow to see if I can see what it is about.
It looks like they are simply running a chain through an amp/high pass filter to a 3 band EQ then through a pair of compressor's that appear to be set up to use as 1 main compressor and 2 a limiter type set up.
Not sure but it looks like that type of chain.
Aug 23, 2008 05:24 pm I can post the link, but the site is in German and the email they send out is in German too. There are some catches, like an automatic newsletter when you use the download link. We don't want anyone clicking something they don't need or want!
My educated guess is that most HRC members don't speak German and hence the best option will be to mail the program to you. The file size is only 578KB so that won't be much of a problem. Maybe you can come up with a way for HRC members to download it from the forum?
Will be interesting to hear what you think.
Aug 23, 2008 10:47 pm I guess since he appears to be out of business and not supporting it anymore I could host it for those interested in it.
So if you want to email it to me I could do that.
Aug 23, 2008 11:33 pm Great! I will mail it immediately. To avoid spam/junk filters catching the EXE file, it will be ZIPped.
The subject line will contain this message: Nightcap HRC forum: LSAMP software
The program is no longer supported and HRC is not going to ask any money for it, so you should be home free.
Thank you!
Aug 23, 2008 11:59 pm Yep, I did one last search on it and found that he indeed is not associated with it any longer.
McMerkin and all interested. I will be getting it uploaded either tonight or tomorrow and I'll post the link to download it here in this thread.
I will as well give it a spin after finishing a review I'm working on at the moment for a software synth for HRC. So keep your eyes peeled.
Thanx again for hunting that down Nightcap, much appreciated.
Aug 24, 2008 12:04 am You're very welcome and I'm glad to be of help. The mail should be in your inbox by now. Anyway, take your time, we can wait.
Aug 24, 2008 12:33 am Um ya, I meant to state in my last post that it had gotten here safe and sound.
Aug 25, 2008 02:50 pm Yes, Noize, you are correct, it starts with a gain and aHPF, 3 parametric EQ's with Q settings, 2 compressors, one for limiting and the other for regular stuff.
In turning the compressor wheels you are limited in where or how far they will go for each compressor (indicating the basic design of that particular compressor).
For ratio, threshold, etc. I was just curious as to what the author was thinking as to how he set up the dials.
it is a great little program and was the only free parametric available for years.
Aug 25, 2008 03:32 pm Hi McMerkin, I hope you don't mind me running interference in earlier posts? Seems to me LSAMP is a dandy little piece of software that's well worth some attention.
Aug 25, 2008 03:49 pm Oh, I wanna try it out. I love free software. Will be awaiting the link.
Aug 25, 2008 08:31 pm I'll try and get it up yet tonight by the way. Watch for it in the next hour or so.
Aug 25, 2008 08:35 pm OK, this should do it. I won't have time to mess about with it until I get back from Tuna's graduation from basic though.
www.pigpenstudio.com/files/flsamp.zip
(edit)
Yep, its there now.
Aug 25, 2008 10:51 pm Thanks for taking the time to post the link Noize.
As for the graduation, have a good time and be proud!
Aug 25, 2008 10:56 pm Your welcome. Thanx for doing the leg work and finding it.
And ya, after the last 4 years or so I can now say I am very proud. Something I couldn't have said a while ago. I am simply beaming about this.
I'll post some pix when I get back.
Aug 29, 2008 12:59 am Have been experimenting some with LSAMP the past few days and so far it seems to do a pretty nice job on most unmastered mixes. I'm no expert when it comes to mastering, but even some finished songs that I was already very pleased with, could be improved a little with LSAMP.
I uploaded an example mastered with LSAMP: Profile -> Music -> Central.mp3. The song is not an original, it's my arrangement and recording of an existing MIDI file.
Sep 03, 2008 06:36 pm Yes, it's a great little program, I like it. My only question is the way Leon set up the dials. For instance, if I want a 4:1 ratio the dial generally will onlt go to 1 on the left side and maybe 6 on the right. I guess it could be set at 1:4 and be the same thing, but that's why I wondered if the help page was still floating around anywhere. I guess not.
Sep 03, 2008 08:36 pm I'm sure that whenever Noize has some time to spare he'll have a look at the settings. The most important thing imho is to trust your ears when fiddling with the LSAMP settings.
I desperately tried to find anything that resembled a manual, no luck so far. :-(
Sep 03, 2008 09:37 pm I will try and get it installed this weekend and have a look. I am sure the dial settings are generic and don't really give yo the true ratio. But I will find out.
Sep 05, 2008 12:36 am So anyone, tried it already?, is it worth it?, i know its free so thats good, but it kinda looks like old Win32 crappy garbage (at least the GUI) it reminds me of Buzz which is a very old sequencer/synth i dont know if any one here tried it before.
Sep 05, 2008 02:12 am Um Dualflip... If you read the thread a little more careful, you will notice that I've been fiddling around with LSAMP and I even posted a mastered example in my Profile. ;-)
The GUI of small utilities never bothers me, it's the result that counts.
Sep 05, 2008 12:40 pm Sorry, i didnt saw that one, i listened to the example in your profile, it sounds really good, although i would like to hear something with real instruments. But thanks for the example tune :)
Sep 05, 2008 01:29 pm Maybe someone else can put such an example up, I'm only playing unreal keyboards. LOL
Sep 05, 2008 02:11 pm I am going to run some of the live show I recorded through it tonight and see if it's up to snuff. I will post when completed.
Sep 05, 2008 08:34 pm Dualflip, real instruments or software synthes. It doesn't really matter as the result will be the same either way. The processing of the sound will have the same end result on either a live guitar/keyboard or drums as it will on a synth type version. It is all audio.
Sep 06, 2008 01:34 pm Quote:
Dualflip, real instruments or software synthes. It doesn't really matter as the result will be the same either way. The processing of the sound will have the same end result on either a live guitar/keyboard or drums as it will on a synth type version. It is all audio.
Yes i know, the thing is that i work mostly with real instruments, so im not very used to the hearing the MIDI type of sound, and although his example sounds very nice, i would still like to hear it applied in real instruments, i dont mean that it will work different if thats what you are trying to tell me. Just that i can have a better reference point if they were "real".
Sep 06, 2008 04:01 pm OK, I'll see if I can muster some time this after noon and use it on something live and post it. I'll let ya know if I can get some time.
Sep 10, 2008 05:07 pm Hehe, real instruments :) I catch myself saying that too. They are real, just really digital :)
Sep 10, 2008 08:09 pm OK, I got really caught up this last weekend and didn't even come close to touching this. I am going to get at it though shortly so don't loose hope.
On the real instrument thing. Funny you say that Tripps. Most of my digital samplers do use REAL instrument sample's. They had better considering the most used parts of the library now take up almost a Terra bite of disc space.
Sep 10, 2008 10:45 pm Noize, like I said earlier, whenever you have the time. It's not a pressing issue and we'll wait very patiently.
Also, I'm glad there is some agreement on what is "real" and what is not. :-)
Sep 11, 2008 02:09 pm I hear ya noize, I get the same thing about drumagog. Though for new age metal it is the greatest tool I own.
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