kids drums for recording?
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Posted on Jul 29, 2008 11:21 pm
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Mikey Spencer
Member Since: Apr 26, 2007
i want to try to use a jr drums set for recording but dont want to purchase it and be totaly let down. here's the one im looking at
www.musiciansfriend.com/p...mset?sku=447702
my idea is...... obviously getting real cymbals and playing it as a 4 pc kit by using the 10" x 5" tom on a snare stand. i stick some nice heads on it and spend a lot of time tuning and dampening them with tape/tissue.
my only other option really is a traps kit but to me this seems better. do you guys think this might work? i know it a long shot
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cruxTypo SzarMember
Since: Jul 04, 2002
Jul 30, 2008 05:31 am The Beastie Boys use a junior type kit from the early 80s i believe, its part of their "sound" and they detail it on their website.
As im surely ppl will say sooner or later its all about the sound u want, but im also going to add its all about the time u put into it. Yes getting good heads and tuning will help alot, but when ur trying to get something out of something that was built for a different purpose it comes down to how much time ull put into finding the mic sweet spot, eqing, compressing and all those things since ur basically trying to build something up from wat is not there.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jul 30, 2008 08:52 pm Well its not going to sound like a big kit, that is for sure. It will be a little thinner sounding but if you mic it proper it might sound pretty cool.
I've sampled small kits like that as well and if you get it right it is a usable sound.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jul 30, 2008 08:59 pm If you aren't keen on the sound permanently, you can always add a sampled sound behind your recorded bass / snare / toms.
you can use a sampled sound to beef up each hit, or replace it altogether.
Drumagog comes to mind, but it can also be done for free. I've done this for fun, using finger hits onto a mic to make my initial sounds. Run through each drum 'track' once, then replace with the sounds I want, and viola! Instant drum tracks, without mechanical timing and velocity.
Here's a video tut on drum replacing / augmenting using reaper, but the principles are the same.
www.cockos.com/wiki/index..._-_Using_ReaFIR
cruxTypo SzarMember
Since: Jul 04, 2002
Jul 30, 2008 11:53 pm Hey Pjk, this is gonna sound nitpicky but, if ur using finger hits on a mic and replacing with drum samples.. wouldn't it be easier to just play the samps on a midi controller?
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jul 31, 2008 07:03 am ha! yeah, probably. I was sitting down in the studio one Sunday morning, reading through some old stuff, and thought: hmm, i wonder if i can do it this way?
it was easier than I thought, and well worth the experiment =).
Actually, now that I think about it, just playing the samples isn't the same. Replacing takes the drummer's hits, and augments the signal, or replaces it altogether. Just playing on a controller would only have your 'controller' playing.
