Another interesting example of the possible new music world
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Posted on Jan 23, 2008 12:17 am
tonyoci
Member Since: Jan 24, 2006
Read an interview with Peter Gabriel in the back of TapeOp.
He talked about the Incredible String Band charging die hard fans $60 to come and watch them record a new album. 120 paid and they got 7 days studio time. The fans got a very original experience and they filmed it for a webcast and future DVD.
He also talks about how this kind of model should make experimentation and collaboration so much more accessible because the cost can be reduced.
I know that if my fav artist was record nearby I would definitely pay $60 to watch them at work.
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WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 23, 2008 09:12 am Eeeee-gad! Not sure I'm ready for a heard of fans hanging out for recording sessions. Cool if he can deal with it. I've been using a little file server prog I picked up for little bucks where I can post wave files and folks can 'come and get it'. Saves a lot of time vs post and or money vs driving. It can still be a little tricky though when one of the musicians sayz "I think you should boom boom de-boom when I plink plink da-boink". ..... Say what? Some get it and use time into song and more descritive terms.
Jan 23, 2008 09:15 am I would suspect the average fan (not a musician or knowledgeable about recording process) would be bored at best watching such a thing after a while, and at worst would be incredibly disillusioned and realize his idol is a mere mortal that has to punch out his mistakes and copy and pastes riffs and such.
That said, I'd pay to see a couple of people in the recording of some tracks, that would be awesome.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 23, 2008 09:29 am I could definately do the watching. Being the watched would bug me. Having said that, I agree that per my experience lay-folks get bored. I don't let herds into the studio, but I have had an occasional onlooker. One fell asleep in the middle of the floor. That was a great session to observe. Mostly headphone work. Sit in silence and listen to the singer without music. The snooring eventualy became a problem. Sam the cat dug it. He curled right up next to guest and joined him in slumber.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 23, 2008 10:30 am Geesh, Walt, you make me crack up!
That's hilarious. I try to get another headphone hooked up for extra people in the control room.
Unless I don't want them there, then I don't =).
Jan 23, 2008 10:38 am I think most bands with a decent fan base would have no problem finding 100 or so fans to pay $50 or so dollars. It's very inventive. I think the pain of being watched is worth the freedom from the record company. It also might change the way you work for the better, more efficient.
It's also very unlikely they were there for 7 days, more likely they came in for a preset time when the band could be prepared to play live for them.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jan 23, 2008 10:58 am Maybe having the good old "Golden Ticket" inside a CD would be a good option. I'm not sure how purchasing a "Studio Ticket" would help the artist sell more CD's.
Jan 23, 2008 12:37 pm BeerHunter, I think you miss the point. The ticket paid for the studio time that they could not otherwise afford. Now they have a CD and can sell it at shows and via the net (or do downloads).
The goal of many bands is not to simply "sell more CD's" they are happy to be self sustaining. Making enough money to live their lives and make more music, if more people were happy with that then the system would work a lot better.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jan 23, 2008 01:21 pm Tony, you are correct. I misread this as being Peter Gabriel selling off seats during his studio time.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 23, 2008 11:10 pm Ya, I still get Tape-Op and read that. I would as well love to cough up some cash to sit in and watch, either in the control room or live room which were the options. The thing is they afforded the big room which is like a live control room. And it is big and spacious. It is also one of the more state of the art studios around these days. So they got their moneys worth. And Peter got more face time for his work as well.
I experienced the having someone watch part many times and it never really bothered me. That maybe came from a long time in a live situation though. It actually afforded me the opportunity to record with one of my New Age music Idol's. Something that I might never have experienced if I had objected to having visitor's sit in and watch as I was working on a short film score at the time in a studio out east.
The boyz have had the pleasure of being watchers at times here as have some of their friends. And funny enough it actually motivates an artist to have a critic that is not a pro musician hearing and watching them as they work.
Jan 23, 2008 11:37 pm Kinda of funny. A company out in Burbank CA (Center Staging) tried something similar.
They were doing it for bands going on tour. You could log-in and watch them rehears.
Which has to be just as exciting as a recording session.
Listening to them go over the same part over and over again. And them some more.
Think I'll start my own, where you can log-in and watch paint dry, or grass grow.
Jan 23, 2008 11:44 pm Oh dear God, someone beat me to it!
Just Googled it. Found a You Tube vid for paint drying.
Unbelievable!
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Jan 24, 2008 12:11 am A friend of mine once told me that he go to sit behind Terry Bozzio during a session for an album....
I'm not a drummer like my friend, but ai might pay for that experience...
Tal Wilkenfeld might convince me to sit behind her.......
Sigh....
I know. I'm an old perv...
Really, it's her playing
Honestly
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Jan 24, 2008 03:15 am I'd love to watch a few bands record and I'd be willing to pay, (I'd really rather watch the engineers though <G>) but I think along the same lines a dB I don't think most fans would care for it for more than a short time. I don't see it being a real money maker either, I mean how many people can you get in a studio at one time. Still cool though.
Danb
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 24, 2008 09:05 pm TC, on the Tal Wilkenfeld thing.
I would sit were ever she told me to. Old perv or not. I'd let here use me as her sweat rag if thats what it took.
And ya, its cuz she is a killer player.
Jan 24, 2008 09:33 pm Again, I think what actually happened here is that they paid $60 to come in for a day/afternoon. They basically saw a live performance in the studio that was specially put on, they really didn't watch the recording from my "extensive" research.
An intimate meeting with a band you support, knowing it helps them make a new CD. Not too shabby.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 25, 2008 08:54 am Wow! Ok, it probably is really no epifiny, but I cought her on some Eric Clapton production / benifit / whatever on the tube the other day. OMG! I mean daddy made a lot of neet noises with his getfiddle but as far as I was concerned Miss Tal stole that show from daddy. Per infered I have to also agree that she is a cute little ****. Can't say I can imagine her in glamor magazine but with the bouncin around and the cute litte grimices she made at daddy like 'take that' she struck me as cute as a bug. I'd almost be afraid to meet her in person. I really liked the character I saw on stage.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Jan 25, 2008 12:28 pm She's as good, if not better than all the bass players Mr. Beck has ever had.
On that Crossroads thing you can see Jeff urging her to go for it, and go for it she did.... The solo was amazing. The "Big end" bottom end was massive. Considering that the original was on a synth...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 27, 2008 06:27 pm Yes, she is a very impressive player indeed. And as you stated Walt, a very cute little thing. With a very big sound, and not afraid to use it.
