Jan 21, 2008 04:40 pm wow. that is ridonkerous. stupendous even. great stuff.
US Presidential Election 2008
Posted on Jan 21, 2008 02:54 pm
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This should clear it up...
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Jan 21, 2008 04:40 pm wow. that is ridonkerous. stupendous even. great stuff.
Jan 21, 2008 10:56 pm I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. That is getting forwarded onto about 60 people I know that think they are so politically proper.
My pop will absolutely blow a gasket.
Jan 23, 2008 10:14 am I kind of hope that nutcase Mike Huckabee gets in. Aside from the fact it will be funny it will teach the voters a lesson.
It would be like punishment for putting GWB in for two terms. ha ha!
Its great to be British and feeling all superior! :D
Jan 23, 2008 10:17 am Huckabee is already running out of money, he is getting no place...
Jan 23, 2008 10:29 am It would be funny though. Who do you think it will actually be?
Jan 23, 2008 10:35 am no idea at this point...for the Libs I see a possible Hitlery/Osama ticket, for the Repubs I am kind of hoping for Romney/Thompson but not sure yet.
Jan 23, 2008 12:19 pm Yeah, but there is speculation of him being a VP running mate and Romney already said he'd consider him a strong one.
Jan 23, 2008 12:31 pm Second banana...why not? It could give him a chance to sharpen his puppeteering skills..
Jan 23, 2008 01:25 pm No, Hucabee would not be funny. It's funny watching him play bass and act cheesy on stage. But it would not be funny if he were the president. We already have one laughing stock president (i'm sure others could make a case for more), but seriously, lets not make a trend of it.
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Its great to be British and feeling all superior! :D
So I see nothings changed over the past 250 years.
Jan 23, 2008 01:50 pm I am not even going to bother to vote this go around. Both sides suck this time.
The Republicans are just looking for more things to blow up, and more boarders to shut down.
The Demarcates are more interested in finding out who is for what, and when. And, I didn't say that! You said....
Another election like this, and I'll be asking our Canadian buddies if there is any more room left up there!
Jan 25, 2008 02:00 pm Didn't mean to offend anyone. I was only joking
Jan 25, 2008 02:08 pm Quote:
I'll be asking our Canadian buddies if there is any more room left up there!
Sorry, we are closed for the season. You can leave a message if you like though.
Jan 25, 2008 02:29 pm No worries, I wasn't really offended. Just didn't want some gullible people to start thinking that voting for ol' Huck would be a good idea based on **** and giggles.
Jan 25, 2008 02:56 pm Quote:
Sorry, we are closed for the season. You can leave a message if you like though.
Hi I would like to leave a message for Canada. We have a person who will be leaving a job soon and will need a new place to stay.
He is a little unstable, and not very good with money, English, or people in general. But, once he leaves his job he'll be harmless.
He has a little friend that follows him around that might have to go with him. Just make sure there are no loaded weapons around him. He has a small habit of shooting people in the face. Just one of his little quirks.
If you could make some room for them some where away from people, like the North Pole. We would greatly appreciate it. Just make sure the Polar Bears know where to find them.
OK thanks. Call back soon, and let us know.
Signed the American Public.
Jan 25, 2008 09:01 pm the republicans should give the nomination to either huckabee or mcccain. i just don't think romney is a strong enough personality to win the general election.
Jun 18, 2008 02:59 am Well obama is right for change. As I look in his speech in pollclash.com ...I believe that he will lead Americans in the right path instead of just what he wants to do. I believe that he listens to the people and goes off of what we need vs. what we want. We are headed towards the depression AGAIN and if I’m correct Barack Obama will not only get us out but lead us far away from ever getting in contact with it again.
Jun 18, 2008 06:38 am Once elected Obama will do whatever the party wants. You are rarely voting for a person, almost always voting for a party.
I did like Obama's fathers day speech, he was right on target with that, but on the whole, I don't trust the guy, he's a good speaker though.
Really, I think the best chance of voting for an independent thinker pies with McCain, as he actually has a history of working with both sides, it's just a matter of if you agree with his wide and varied stances on issues.
Jun 18, 2008 07:16 am Am I the only one bothered by a campaigning politician giving a sermon? Yeah, I know there's a difference between traditional and conservative and as a US Episcopalian I'm pretty much neither :) ...but a reading would be fine... a sermon? no no no... completely inappropriate...
Jun 18, 2008 07:30 am It doesn't bother me, but I can see where it'd bother some. I liked his message, it applied far beyond the black community and was a good message. I am guessing it was also him appealing to righties with the more traditional, churchy thang, family values, yada yada.
Jun 18, 2008 07:51 am OMG. This is sooo sad. Listen to us. We have all excepted that we are being manipulated and lied to as we analize how we are being manipulated. And then we walk out and vote FOR one of these buttholes? We accept terms such as "our best chance". Holy crap! On we go preparing to continue the fight with our government. I remember my parents actually voting FOR someone; consiously. I'm sure I'll end up voting against once again; per usual.
Jun 18, 2008 07:59 am This early, i really can't tell which i would side with, but i am leaning towards obama. Furthermore, the GOP base is not even warming up to mccain (of course, i could be wrong) and even though it's still early in the game, this just proves to show how we see our candidates to-date. i know i will get burned for this, but i think mccain is a warmonger. i get the impression that he doesn't care to what happens to our troops in the middle east and the other parts of the world. Can’t we just all get along? i think it is time for a purification; i think it is time for a change; i think it is time for obama time. Now that the candidates are set for the US Presidential Election, Barack Obama and John McCain are beginning to set the tone for their campaign.
Jun 18, 2008 08:03 am Saying a former POW who survived years of torture doesn't care about troops is just...man, I don't even have a word for it. The GOP base will vote for McCain because he is the best they have, only the most centrist of those on the left will be swayed to vote for Obama...
Jun 18, 2008 08:09 am I don't give a damn about getting burned. I think it's too late to tax the rich. They have the money and there is no way their letting go of it. Government is the worst way to generate real jobs. Oh-bummer also threatens to delete our second amendement and that just does not settle well with me. On the other hand Mc-Pain looks a lot like four more years of the Bushwacker. Holy crap. Does it matter?
Jun 18, 2008 08:16 am McCain I think is more toward center than Bush, not saying I like it, but I do like that he has a proven history of working with both sides...
Obama is basically a typical leftie, wants to grade morality on a curve, wants to take my guns (even though he really tries to make us feel otherwise), wants to socialize medicine...he wants big gov't to take care of everything for you...
He's a good speaker, but I don't like his policy stances.
Both parties are idiots on immigration, but, well, ya can't have it all.
Jun 18, 2008 08:42 am Well, good morning sunshine. We must have been posting at the same time. I do like the fact that he served. That does mean a lot to me. I am real tired of politicaly correct draft dogers being commander in chief. Thank God Bush didn't croak in office. We would have had our soldiers shooting each other in the face.
Jun 18, 2008 10:28 pm OK, so we vote for Obamason and he pulls us out of the gulf. OK, so now were are all those people going to get jobs? And what about all the production facilities that will now be shut down, and hundred's of thousands of worker's out of a freakin job. Are YOU gonna feed me??? Is Ohamma gonna feed me???? I highly freakin doubt it!!!
Yes, sadly this world's economy is driven by wartime, or by the armed forces being in action. But it is NOT Vietnam happening over there. There is some major rebuilding going on that we as the American public never EVER get to see.
So go ahead and vote for osama, and I'll see you in the soup line or the food stamps line. Oh wait. there wont even be an economy for that.
You people really need to learn to read between the lines. Yes Obama is a great speaker and he can swoon the public with his pre written drivel. But have you seen him step all over his tongue when he tries to wing it?? He is a stuttering flood of nothing but easily repeatable slogan's.
Sorry to rant but I think the guy is no better then any other, and I must agree there is something that is not good about him. There is an underlying tone to his voice like a liar. And I have known many very good liars in my day. He is hiding another motive under that sweet talking speech mongering fake smile of his.
Jun 19, 2008 09:08 am Good rant Noize.
I just wish there was a clear choice. I get the NRA published voting record on Obama per our second amendement rights, and yes he lies by omision. His vague emotoinal ovetures seem to be lulling people to sleep and I don't believe people should be sleeping right now. Hush little baby don't you cry, Obummer will take care of you by and by. I too have great fears about him.
McPain, on the other hand is falling too close in line the to Bushwacker. Windfall profits to oil companies and a select few will do nothing for our country's middle class. The middle class is the backbone of any economy. They create, build and comsume. The outer ends of a society, the poor and the rich only have potential. Bush is playing a game of monopoly that is already over. Give the loosers a little stimulous to go around the board a couple more times so there is something to collect and hand another piece of the country to the UAE ultimately. As per our millitary activities in the middle east, I have to admit that I am smart and wise enough to know I have no idea where that is taking us. I know damn well there is a componant of control of oil recources involved. I understand fully that there is also a humanitarian componant. I also know my government is not going to give me any 20-20 glance at reality.
Jun 19, 2008 09:14 am I don't get the rant on oil companies, by percentage, their profits are not that far out of line with many, many other industries. They could, however, do the right thing and take less to help a busting economy, but even since their not, their profit totals are crazy high, their profit margins are really not.
When it comes to oil, it ultimately rests on us to use less.
Jun 19, 2008 08:39 pm No rant intented. I'm more in a state of dissipointment and discust.
Jun 21, 2008 02:33 pm noize, how can you say that obama does poorly when he tries to wing it? have you really watched him answer questions off the cuff? he's fantastic at it. his slow way of speaking is a result of searching carefully for the most precise word he can find.
in the first debates obama appeared in--the ones with all the candidates--he sucked. candidates had about 30 seconds to answer a question. then, as the field dwindled, he turned into a pretty good debater. when he got his mojo on, there were three debates in which he was flat out awesome. then there was the one in which the negative stuff was brought up. in that one, he didn't do so well. but that's what happens when the questions aren't balanced. if you're on the defensive all night, you're just that: on the defensive. i noted it when it happened to hillary, too.
but to really see how well he does when off the cuff, go to youtube and search 'obama meet the press.'
Jun 23, 2008 11:22 am Quote:
OK, so now were are all those people going to get jobs? And what about all the production facilities that will now be shut down, and hundred's of thousands of worker's out of a freakin job. Are YOU gonna feed me??? Is Ohamma gonna feed me???? I highly freakin doubt it!!!
The economy is in the toilet anyway. How much, per day, is the war-on-people-with-great-oil-reserves/pipeline real-estate costing us? How would that cash benefit the people of the US?
All this doesn't matter. The Republicans will find a new way to steal/cancel the election.
Keep watching Fox news, they'll keep you extremely informed in a very balanced and un-opinionated way.
Jun 23, 2008 11:27 am TallChap, for a good, intelligent guy, you are so blinded by hatred sometimes it astounds me...and quit franky, bums me out.
That said, you're still a good guy, I just don't get it sometimes.
Jun 23, 2008 11:44 am Well, thank you dB-Wan.
My concern is that the quoted line was pretty much "the war is great for the economy" but the numbers don't agree. Plus, dead people. I'll take living soldiers over open gun factories.
I agree that we need to use less oil, but when OPEC stands up and says, "This price thing isn't us this time" one starts to wonder. If it were not for the reserves in the Caspian basin, we'd have a great deal more living soldiers/civilians.
War is not good for business, it's good for killing people and breaking things.
Jun 23, 2008 11:50 am History will more accurately tell the tale...it's very hard to judge anything in the midst of it. On the whole, I agree, but at the same time, sadly, sometimes war is necessary. Afghanistan was necessary, Iraq, well, I dunno, not necessary, done sloppily, but I'm still glad Saddam is gone.
Jun 23, 2008 01:50 pm Okay, I'm not going to jump onto the conspiracy theorist bandwagon here (there would be days of that)....but.....
Why was Afghanistan 'necessary'?
To get OBL? But Bush says "I'm not concerned with him"....go figure.
Anyway, the 9/11 hihjackers were predominantly from Saudi Arabia (as was/is OBL). No attacks there, though?
Did the Taliban foil Unocal's plans for $2.9billion pipelines through Afghanistan (well, they asked for too much money for 'security')? Besides, the BBC reported the USA's intention to attack Afghanistan in July of 2001. Necessary?
Necessary for the pipeline.
This isn't all conspiracy stuff, just very well known facts that don't add up.
My heart goes out to all the fine fighting men and women who I will wholeheartedly support. The mission is a crock.
Iraq?
Saddam was a bastard, but he was not the reason.
Iran next.
But no involvement in Rwanda, Darfur, Congo genocides?
Oh, and go ahead and argue with the Fox news statement!
Jun 23, 2008 04:10 pm I was just sent a link to a video that seems to relevant here.
This video is an hour long. Within the first five minutes, you get the gist of what he is talking about.
dB, I hate to say this, but, it looks as if Bush is behind the whole price hike of the oil. And the invasion of Iraq was part of it.
Jun 23, 2008 04:50 pm didn't he write a book? :)
Jun 23, 2008 09:54 pm OK, I don't often get involved the political rhetoric and don't take sides very often either. But we don't need things getting out of hand about crap we simply don't have control of. At least without a country revolting just like in the old days.
I suggest reading the entire piece, I almost didn't and would have missed the entier point.
Here is a very long winded rant by Jay Leno, who as most of us know is NOT a bush fan. But he makes some damn good statements. It goes a little off the beaten path but it gets the point across. We should be thankful for what we have and all the political morons should simply stop trying to sell as a bag of meaningless goods and simply start listening to what the majority of the people want.
And I'm talking about American people, TRUE American people, not the idiots that come here illigally or otherwise and think we should bend over ******* backward to accomodate them.
Anyway, enough ranting. Here it is.
> Jay Leno on President Bush
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> No matter what your political convictions are, this is an eye opener. What a thankless people we are!!!
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> Jay Leno on President Bush (Surprising) it's the Jay Leno we don't often see....
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> "As most of you know, I am not a President Bush fan, nor have I ever been, but this is not about Bush, it is about us, as Americans, and it seems to hit the mark.
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> The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some Poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true given the source, right?
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> The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 % of Americans are unhappy with the direction the country is headed and 69 % of the country is unhappy with the performance of the President. In essence 2/3 of the citizenry just ain't happy and want a change. So being the knuckle dragger I am, I started thinking, "What are we so unhappy about?''
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> A.. Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7 Days a week?
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> B.. Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter?
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> C.. Could it be that 95.4 % of these unhappy folks have a job?
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> D.. Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time and see more food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?
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> E.. Maybe it is the ability to drive our cars and trucks from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean without having to present identification papers as we move through each state?
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> F.. Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter?
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> G.. I guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough either.
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> H. Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all and even send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.
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> I.. Perhaps you are one of the 70 % of Americans who own a home.
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> J..You may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames, thus saving you, your family, and your belongings.
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> K.Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or prowler intrudes, an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss.
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> L .. This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90% of teenagers own cell phones and computers.
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> M.. How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?
> Maybe that is what has 67% of you folks unhappy.
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> Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S. , yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but
> complain about what we don't have, and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.
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> I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and has no plan to get us out? The president who has a measly 31 % approval rating? Is this the same president who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled ungrateful brats safe from terrorist attacks? The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me?
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> Did you hear how bad the President is on the news or talk show? Did this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn't take a look around for yourself and see all the good things and be glad? Think about it......are you upset at the President because he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the 'Media' told you he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every day.
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> Make no mistake about it.
> The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have died for your freedom. There is currently no draft in this country. They didn't have to go. They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a "general " discharge, an "other than honorable'' discharge or, worst case scenario, a ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days in the brig.
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> So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds of 69 % of Americans?
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> Say what you want, but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds it leads and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts. But how many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner?
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> The media knows this, and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells, and when criticized, try to defend their actions by 'justifying' them in one way or another. Just ask why they tried to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book about how he didn't kill his wife, but if he did he would have done it this way......Insane!
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> Turn off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as country! There is exponentially more good than bad. We are among the most blessed peoples on Earth and should thank God several times a day, or at least be thankful and appreciative. With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, 'Are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?'
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> Jay Leno
Jun 23, 2008 10:29 pm Thanx Rob, yes a little bit.
With the recent happenings in my life I have had a chance to think a bit more about what we are leaving behind for our children.
Especially now having Tuna enlist and leave for reason's other then I thought. Yes he is doing it for the education, the pay and a chance to see places he might not otherwise see. But ultimately he is doing it because he believes in putting forth an effort to bring this country back to the way it should have been kept. Not the sissified version of America we have come to know in recent years. And he believes it isn't going to happen if he just goes along with life doing nothing more then getting along. He believes that eventually the government will make good decision's and things might get better. But it isn't going to happen just sitting here and doing what everyone else does.
Well enough ranting. Leno's rant says it all.
Jun 23, 2008 10:35 pm Either way Herb, it says a mouthful no matter who the **** wrote it.
Jun 23, 2008 10:51 pm you can tell that's not leno by certain things in the language. certain things in the content also give it away.
Jun 24, 2008 12:08 pm If I raise the price of gasoline by 300% in six years, make the price at the pump close to $5.00 or more a gallon, then I suddenly make a huge announcement that I'm going to take 20% off a gallon of gas....am I a hero?
Jun 24, 2008 12:27 pm Gas has gone up, but people should relax, I mean, it sucks, but per inflation, it's no more by percentage of the average income than it was in 1982, and the oil companies are not making an out of line profit margin...record profits by volume, but not record, price gouging profits by percentage. But, it's a good lightening rod for the tin foil hat club that swears GWB is to blame for everything...which is comical. I'll be curious to see how his presidency plays out in history...
Still, it sucks.
That being said, in the coming year or two, I am going to greenify my house...I already have plans for solar water heating (which accounts for about 1/3 of the average homes energy consumption) and a water sistern for storage of sump pump and downspout water to be used for lawn sprinklers and toilet flushing...
Cuz, while it's not "gas" energy as a whole is getting more expensive...it's not about "saving the earth", it's about "saving me money".
Jun 24, 2008 02:20 pm what's the downspout thing? you're going to use water from your rooftop to fill up the toilet tanks? or you're going to use your own reclaimed water on the lawn? surely not the latter!
Jun 24, 2008 02:56 pm rain water and sump pump water to be used to fill the toilets after flushing and for watering my lawn...no poopy water going anywhere but the sewer :-)
Jun 24, 2008 04:07 pm Check with your state. Most of which right now are offering subsidies on solar panels.
According to a PBS show that I watched. It's either your state or another around you that offers up to half of the price.
And that includes the installation.
Jun 24, 2008 10:00 pm Yeah, Minnesota has some decent rebates, I do know that...and my bro-in-law is really studying alternative energy and stuff as a supplement to his pipefitter experience, he'll likely have a good market before too long.
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