Falling deeper into despair...
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Posted on Jun 12, 2002 02:22 pm
shepherdsam
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I am starting to lose hope.
I have exhausted my resources and still no answers. My dilemma is this...
I cannot record at all with my onboard AC'97, I have a soundblaster live card which I installed but have since taken out since it totally cacked out on this new system.
I am looking at purchasing M-audio's OMNI I/O w/Delta 66 however I am still uncertain about a few things.
1. One of the requirements for the Omni studio is UDMA EIDE or ATA 33/66 HDD. I am so confused, I can't find anything that will tell me if I am compliant in this area. I did see something in Device manager > IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers > Primary IDE channel > Advanced settings under "current transfer mode" it says Ultra DMA mode 5. But under Secondary IDE channel the current tansfer mode is Multi-word DMA mode 2.
2. If I am able to use the OMNI what about regular windows sound and stuff on the net? I have heard that I don't want to map any sounds through the delta and that I should disable my onboard sound (AC'97) as well. So how then will I hear stuff outside of my little studio world?
3. My XP was installed as ACPI and has put all of the following into IRQ channel 11...
Microsoft ACPI compliant system
2 USB ports
Trident Video accelerator
AC'97 audio controller
Macronix ethernet controller
Can I fix this without reinstalling from scratch or should I just start over? OR If the Omni is compatable will it even matter assuming I can put it on a separate IRQ channel?
I hate to be a pain in the *** but I haven't recorded anything since April 20th and I really have looked everywhere for answers. I am really depressed over this whole thing, If anyone has any suggestions to offer please help a frustrated musician see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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Jun 12, 2002 02:53 pm dude, unless your PC was built 10 years ago you are complaint in regards to the UDMA.
System sounds will work just fine through the Delta, any pro card maker recoemmend you not do this, and for the life of me I cannot understand why, as they all do the job just fine. The only reason I know of that they would not want you to is because some of those system sounds are much less than the recommended 16-bit 44.1 sample rate.
ACPI is the devil, well, Bill Gates is the Devil, ACPI is his hand-maiden. If BIOS allows, disable ACPI and reinstall Windows, If it does not allow, just make sure your sound card does not go on the same IRQ.
As a whole most devices can share IRQ's without great pain, but high-end, high-perf pieces sometimes need their own.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 12, 2002 02:58 pm Thank you I will try to remain calm. I went looking for answers at a few hardware sites but found no real information about set-ups specific to audio and I find myself just coming away with more questions. I am convinced I need to re-install, bypassing the ACPI but I am nervous to do it on my own. My father is really good with computers maybe he can do it for me. He hasn't been able to help too much so far though as he is much more up on his software than his hardware.
Jun 12, 2002 03:14 pm ACPI is best if disabled in BIOS, NOT in Windows. Then, when reinstalling Windows it won't even install, if you install it and then disable it in Windows, it's still there.
As far as your AC97 goes, that isn't meant for recording, yes they have a line in and mic in, but they suck and it would drive you nuts...that is probably one of the weakest audio chips (from a multi-trackers point of view) in existance. Do yourself a favor and don't even consider using it...
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 12, 2002 03:13 pm Do you think if I manage to disable the ACPI and my onboard sound that I might be able to use my Soundblaster live until I can afford the Omni?
Or is my Soundblaster incompatable with my Via chipset (VT82C686B)? I have checked out some user boards and roughly half the people there had problems with theirs while half didn't.
Sorry again for the lame questions, once I am recording again I will be able to make some useful contributions.
Jun 12, 2002 03:21 pm I don't see any reason why you couldn't, why did the card "cack out" on you in the first place. No matter what boards you visit where there is going to be some people that have had probs with everything...you will never find the perfect component with a 100% success rate.
All you can do is try...
Jun 12, 2002 03:10 pm Do not fall deeper into dispair. ACPI is not the devil , it just might seem that way some times. The problem is not with ACPI, it's with the manufacturers of the harware(cards) that are to blame. Companies know if their product deals with lots of data and resources and should write the driver accordingly to work with ACPI. If the driver is coded correctly, ACPI will know not to share IRQ's with that device. For example, my ATI All-In-Wonder, continously crashed my machine. Why? Because ATI has notoriously bad driver support. If I were you I would do this:
1. Disable the onboard audio on the motherboard through the BIOS. Onboard audio sucks and causes problems.
2. Flash your BIOS with the most current version.
3. Download the latest drivers for you SB Live for your operating system.
4. Make sure you have the latest Windows service packs and patches installed for your setup.
(launch Internet Explorer, go to tools, and Windows Update. When you get there click on product updates. It will assess your configuration and tell you the latest stuff you can download for your PC.)
5. If you think your SB live is giving you a conflict, move it to a different PCI slot.
6. Also, make sure there are no updated chipset drivers for your motherboard. You will have to check it out at the mobo manufacturers website. Of course, if you find out there is, get 'em and install 'em.
Your motherboard defintely at least have an ATA/UDMA 33 IDE controller. So don't worry about it. Get the Delta 66 if you can afford it. Worse case scenario, you can buy a new IDE controller card(you shouldn't have to though) If your mobo doesn't have an ATA 33 IDE controller, your audio card is the least of your problems.
Good luck! Let me know how it turns out. If you need more help just ask.
Mark
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 12, 2002 03:25 pm Cacked out was a little too general I agree. lol.
I managed to record in Cool edit but when I played it back it was choppy and scratchy sounding and I hardly recognized it as what I just recorded. I also listened to the track by itself and through other media players but no difference. But I was getting a recording level out of my mic and I cannot with my onboard. I'm wondering if it will work if I can give it it's own IRQ. And you know how the internet works, half the people say IRQ's don't matter ,etc...
Jun 12, 2002 03:30 pm thanks for stopping in Mark, I knew if you got here you would post on this one...
Might I add if you have never flashed a BIOS beofre, have somebody computer savy to help you...it can be lethal to your board if improperly done...
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 12, 2002 03:34 pm Thanks guys!
I'm going to call my Dad and see if he'll come help me go through it.
Mark I'll keep you all posted, thanks again.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Jun 12, 2002 04:48 pm What is IRQ or whatever it is? Man, for someone who posts so much I'm still such a newbie.
Jun 12, 2002 05:38 pm An IRQ is short for "Interrupt Request" (if memory serves) a computer has 15 IRQ's theoretically having one for each component in the computer, the keyboard uses one, the mouse, the system clock, modem, sound card, video card, etc.
The prob is computers have advanced and more and more devices are in them (how many of us have more than one sound card plus a video card with a video accelerator for gaming). So then IRQ's start needing to be shared. Some low use (or, "light") devices can be shared pretty easily but high use (or, "heavy") devices really don't like to do that as they need all the power they can get, things like high-perf sound cards, video capture cards, high-perf gaming video cards and stuff like that.
You can help this buy using USB keyboard, mouse, modems, even sound cards, as USB only needs the IRQ for the USB port, not for each device on it.
ACPI is a power management interface for Windows that control power usage and such (correct me if I am wrong here, Mark O) which to me seems stupid unless you are using a laptop on battery power...maybe it is the drivers that make the problem, but regardless of blame, I have seen it cuz more problems than it has helped...
Am I right Mark, ACPI came out after I got out of PC teching, so I am not fully educated on some of the newer stuff...but I believe I am in the ballpark on this...if not tell me.
Jun 12, 2002 07:09 pm Can anyone give me some sort of walk through to disable ACPI in XP?
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 12, 2002 07:29 pm Okay, We disabled the onboard sound and installed the SB live with the latest drivers and crackle crackle pop hissssss when I try to play one of my cool edit sessions. When I play audio from my CD it sounds like a very poor quality mp3 even though it is a store bought cd (Vai's alive in an Ultra world, buy it immediatly). My AC'97 actually sounded better than this! No idea whether or not I can record through it or not yet, sounding this bad who cares?
If anybody needs me I'll be drinking heavily and shopping for sledgehammers.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 12, 2002 08:53 pm All right, I've had a few beers and I feel better already. I'm sorry computer, don't be alarmed, Daddy's not going to smash you yet.
Now, about IRQ's... Do I have 15 IRQ's or do they just get numbered up to 15? (I'll try to explain). My system information says this is how mine are allocated.
IRQ 0 System timer
IRQ 1 Keyboard
IRQ 3 Communications port(COM2)
IRQ 4 " " (COM1)
IRQ 6 floppy disk controller
IRQ 8 system CMOS?real time clock
IRQ 11 Microsoft ACPI compliant system
IRQ 11 Trident video accelerator
IRQ 11 Via rev 5 or later USB Universal host controller
IRQ 11 Via rev 5 or later USB Universal host controller
IRQ 11 Creative SB live value (I notice the value for the first time)
IRQ 12 Mouse
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor
IRQ 14 Primary IDE channel
IRQ 15 Secondary Ide channel
Now am I able to switch some of these around somehow? I don't see IRQ's 2,5,7,9 or 10 do they exist? If so can I use them and why don't I already? The latest drivers for everything are being used.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 12, 2002 09:57 pm Ok, shep. I have been through the same delema, but came through unscathed. Now my SB and my Delta live in harmony and I do not hear boo for distortion. You need to move the SB card into a slot that will give it it's own IRQ, hopefully 10. And you should make sure you have the current driver, which is hopefully WMA compliant selected in your recording app. If you have the defualt driver selected this could cause a problem. Window's loves to default to sound mapper, and this is a real crappy generic driver.
By the way, my SB card scarf's up 2 IRQ's to support both midi and audio, so that may be why I don't have any problem's.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 12, 2002 10:04 pm Oh, and buy the way. The M-Audio Delta serie's stuff if very stable and very user friendly. I have not had any trouble at all and will stick with their gear, and I have several piece's of M-Audio/ MidiMan gear in this place.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 13, 2002 12:45 am This is very freaking weird...
I wasn't sure about the PCI slots because I only have three and my ethernet is in one. But I changed my SB from slot three to slot one and BAM! all of a sudden now my IRQ's have magically changed around.
Now my USB's are both on IRQ 10, my ACPI is on IRQ 9, my video controller and my Soundblaster are sharing IRQ 5. in fact thwe only thing left on IRQ 11 is my ethernet card.
My crackling and popping seems to have stopped but my wife is sleeping so I'll wait until tomorrow to record something and try to push a few tracks in cool edit.
Thanks to everyone who listened. I'll let you all know how it works tomorrow.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 13, 2002 01:51 am I can't sleep so here I am with the headphones on.
As it turns out I still can hear crackling and popping when I play two or more tracks simultaneously but not nearly as much as before.
I recall somewhere seeing ethernet cards as sometimes being responsible for this, any truth?
I'll try moving the ethernet card over a slot so there is one empty slot between it and my SB.
I did manage another tweak but I haven't noticed any effects yet. What I did was go into device manager and expanded my computer then clicked on properties on ACPI compliant. I then clicked on update driver and chose my own from a list. I chose personal PC and then had to reboot.
When the desktop came back up I had to reset my display preferences and everything in my entire system was found as new hardware. Of course I then had to reboot for the upteenth time tonight. :)
Now everything seems the same so far but I no longer have ACPI listed on any IRQ (I still have all the same settings as my earlier post except nothing listed for IRQ 9 anymore).
I will try the ethernet card move tomorrow (no more reboots tonight, thank you) and let you all know what happens if anything.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 13, 2002 02:31 am Okay who am I kidding it is now 3:50 am and I just finished rebooting after changing my ethernet card's slot. No difference in sound however.
I did see something interesting since my last tweak however. Now in device manager when I expand computer there are two separate standard PC's listed ( I believe in an earlier post I erroneously referred to this as personal PC ).
The first one, after clicking on properties claims no driver's installed for this device yet at the bottom the "use this device (enable)" box is checked.
On the second one it says this device is working properly and yet the box where the "use this device" is, has been shadowed out.
I don't know if this is a problem or not but it strikes me as unusual anyways.
HEY MARK IN ORLANDO...
When I first reinstalled my SB I didn't flash the BIOS I just rebooted and held delete until I got into the menu. From there I just changed my AC'97 from enabled to disabled. Is that okay or did I miss a step? (I'm lost when it comes to BIOS)
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 02:54 am Sorry, Mark in Orlando = Mark Orlando.
hey it's pretty late in Toronto.
Jun 13, 2002 05:34 am OK, I am no Mark Orlando, but I can say yes, you did it right from the menu you get into by holding delete (on most system) is the BIOS and disabling your AC97 is correct.
Change slots and everything automagically changes, eh? Weird, yes, but no that suprising. You may have to juggle slots a little more to get them where you want them, there is no magic formula for it. I am personally starting to think you have a bad SB, a BIOS flash, while good to do to keep your board current, should not be necessary to get it to work.
What application are you playing back through, is the static in the sound reardless of the program you are using?
Fuzzball, you are best off disabling ACPI in BIOS, not in XP, if Windows is the only place you can disable ACPI, leave it enabled, or so I have read.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 08:43 am thats the only way XP lets you change IRQ's is that you have to physically move the card. . . get the sound card on it's own IRQ. . . right now it looks as though it's still shareing with the trident. both of those cards will be the "heavy" users talked about above. . .
Jun 13, 2002 08:47 am I didn't even know Trident was still around, whoa...
I haven't needed to play with IRQ's since I have moved to XP, so I can't tell ya, but I will say that through the BIOS (or changing slots) is the best way to do it rather than have BIOS saying one thing and then have Windows do something else with them...I prefer to let Windows control as little as possible...it seems I have less trouble that way.
One possible way to help the issue is to get a USB sound unit. M-Audio makes some great ones that are l;isted in some other threads.
Jun 13, 2002 01:06 pm You definitely don't want your sound card and your video card sharing the same IRQ. To much data! You also don't want to share it with a SCSI controller either(in case you had one). Keep switching the card around in different slots and make sure you have the most current drivers for the SB live. As far as disabling ACPI or using a standard PC HAL and trying to configure your cards manually, I wouldn't do it unless I absolutely had no other alternative. Reason is that some boards(like mine) won't even boot into Windows that way. Plus it's a pain in the *** to manually configure and you have to reinstall the OS. Also, everything you install from then on has to be manually! Move the stuff around until you get it right. It's trial and error(yes it sucks). There is actually a physical way that the slots are linked but that's beyond the scope of what you need to know and it varies anyway. Is your video card AGP or PCI? Meaning does your video card have it's own slot that your other cards won't fit into? Even if it's AGP(not the same as SB Live) you can try uninstalling and reinstalling your video card(if moving PCI card don't work). Sometimes when you reinstall it, you will get a different IRQ structure. I have done it with my ATI AIW card(unfortunately it didn't solve my problem).
Jun 13, 2002 01:39 pm He said earlier he only has three PCI slots, therefore I am guessing the video card is an integrated AGP card. This appears to be a name-brand proprietary system, which may as well make doing much in BIOS difficult.
What make/model of PC is this? We could learn more by checking the makers website, if it is a name-brand like it sounds...
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 02:00 pm Sorry, I had my specs listed on another thread.
601Mhz VIA samuel 248MB ram.
mother board is PLE01
Design: Micro ATX
Chipset: VIA Apollo PLE133 VT8601A and VT82C686B
onboard audio: AC'97 audio controller (disabled)
onboard video: Trident video accelerator
Ethernet card: Macronix MX98715
Drive 1: 20.50 G Fujitsu
Drive 2: 8.70 G Maxtor
SoundBlaster live value (currently in use)
I also have 2 USB ports onboard.
I used a diagnostic program to do a scan of my machine and it said my processor is a 600Mhz IDTPentium II. I'm not sure what this means, there is no mention of any thing pentium in my user's manual.
Do you guys think I should go back to where I was last night before disabling the ACPI?
Jun 13, 2002 02:23 pm I don't but Mark might, I don't want to speak for him. However, is this a name brand PC, like a Compaq, Dell, Gateway or something, or is it a custom-built piece. 248MB Ram?!?!? that's weird, your system must be taking 8MB for the video chip...
I can't find any info about the motherboard online anywhere...
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 13, 2002 02:34 pm Crap I had a whole post typed and I lost it.
dB, I have been all over VIA's website but can't find any info for my specific board, only 1 or 2 chips. I have static in everything but especially when playing two or more tracks in cool edit. Also fruity loops is unlistenable but I push my loops quite hard so I am not suprised.
Mark, I don't have SCSI and my video is onboard.
I'm a little worried about the two separate Standard PC's listed in Device manager. Does anyone know why this happened and if it will be a problem?
Jun 13, 2002 02:41 pm do you have two device profiles listed, that is the only reason I could think of that would cause this...
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 13, 2002 02:43 pm Also Mark, I'm not sure what you meant by saying everything will have to be installed manually from now on but when I reset the driver from ACPI to Standard PC everything installed itself after the reboot on it's own, it just let me know as it was doing it.
I am trying to learn as I go when it comes to this OS.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 13, 2002 02:48 pm As to the Brand name?
It says A-open on the tower and on the power supply. It says PLE01 on the mother board and PLE01 M/B For VIA C3 on the user's manual.
I wasn't there when the install was done but I do know it is a new machine, clean install.
I really wish I had more info to give but I just don't know too much myself.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 02:58 pm I just checked and I only have one device profile listed.
Jun 13, 2002 03:45 pm What you can do is try and remove one of the Standard PC HALs in device manager(tyr and right-click on it and see if there is an "uninstall" or "remove" option). By the sounds of it, you have a Cyrix processor. Which a 600 is about the = of a PII 400.(Intel never made a PII past the 400MHz clock speed). What I meant by installing everything manually was that when you do all of this without ACPI you may lose plug & play(ACPI is an integral part of P&P). I cannot stress enough that you follow the instructions that I gave you already. You might not see the point or corelation of doing some of it, sometimes I don't. Nobody knows everything. Just keep that in mind and try not to get too frustrated. I know it's easier said than done. I will look and see what I can dig up on the internet about your specific board and setup. Oh and by the way, disabling ACPI doesn't necessarily do anything because your disabling a feature in which the OS handles anyway. (Hardware doesn't do anything but take up space without software). Which is why I suggested the newest BIOS upgrade, OS updates, chipset, and soundcard drivers...And if all else fails, "use the force."
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 04:40 pm Mark, I tried to do what you suggested. I disabled the onboard in BIOS and all my drivers are updated but I don't know what you mean by "flash the BIOS" I'm really just learning this stuff.
Anyhow, I was able to uninstall one of the Standard PC's that came up in device manager but now there is no "use this device" to check.
Both Standard PC's had the same drivers listed even though the one claimed none were installed.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 04:50 pm So what is the best thing for me to do, should I go back to ACPI or not?
Jun 13, 2002 04:59 pm Ok dude, take a look at
english.aopen.com.tw/products/mb/mx36le.htm
I think that's your mobo. Look at the picture and see if that's it. You can also get to the latest BIOS download from that page with instructions on how to do it. Of course, if you need help, we're here for you. I took a look at the specs and the board can take a PIII, Celeron, or a Via C3(Cyrix was taken over by Via). Also check
english.aopen.com.tw/tech...drv/default.htm
for the latest chipset drivers for your mobo. It's also a good idea to go through the FAQ's there as well. Hope that helps.
Mark
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 05:35 pm I agree with Mark, the Video and SB card cannot share and IRQ, that will definately cause noise. Also, if you are absolutely certain you have the current driver's and none of the above have worked, dB could be right. I have seen a card go bad B4 and still work, just be noisy. If you can borrow a card to try and make sure that it get's it's own IRQ and then the borrowed card work's. You know you have a bad card.
MitchMember
Since: Apr 14, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 07:27 pm Man, I dont have to know all of this when I go and install my Echo MIA sound card, do I?
Pleeeeaaasssee say no.....! :(
Mitch
Jun 13, 2002 08:57 pm I hope not Mitch, but you never know. Ok Shep, I'm gonna get a little techie on you but pay close attention. The BIOS is the Basic Input Output System. It is esentially the piece of software that hides in the CMOS(Complimentary Metal Oxide Semiconductor) which is an EEPROM(Electrically Erasible Programmable Read-Only Memory) chip.
Now, what it does.
On startup, the BIOS tests the system and prepares the computer for operation by querying the CMOS memory for drive and other configuration settings. It searches for other BIOSs on the plug-in boards and sets up pointers (interrupt vectors) in memory to access those routines. It then loads the operating system and passes control to it. The BIOS accepts requests from the drivers as well as the application programs.
What the hell does that all mean? The BIOS interacts with all the hardware, get's all the necessary configuration info, and then passes it on to the OS and the applications so they know how to use the stuff. Simple. Right? Now the term "Flashing" is just a term they use for upgrading the BIOS. Being that the BIOS resides on an EEPROM, which is a memory chip which contents can be altered via software. So by "flashing" the BIOS, you are re-programming your CMOS with the most current BIOS(software). The software, usually a flash utility, sends the current BIOS to the CMOS where the old BIOS is erased and the new updated BIOS is electrically burned on the chip(CMOS). The BIOS is retained even when the power to your PC is off because the CMOS is backed up by a tiny, watch like, battery(ok a big watch). So what do you have to do?
1. Re-enable ACPI in Windows.
2. Downloand the flash Utility and the BIOS from the manufaturer's website.
3. Follow the instructions for upgrading your BIOS on the website.
4. Also, out there on the AOPEN website are you chipset drivers. You might want to download and install those as well.
The BIOS and the chipset drivers might or might not help you. It is just something to try if you aren't having success with anything else. Like the guys said, the card might be bad. A good thing to do(if you could) is pop it in another PC and see if the same thing happens. If so, get a new card.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 10:17 pm The board in that link is not my board.
I probably should mention, I have another interface below my PCI slots. It is longer, is this AGP? Nothing is plugged in to this.
My mother board is definitly a PLE01, the pictures in my manual match it perfectly. But the manual is pretty much useless after that. I am assuming the company is VIA as it's the only company name in the manual, but all it says on the actual board itself is PLE01.
Mark, I'll do what you have suggested and post back when I am done.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 13, 2002 10:56 pm Hey Mark, the way you write you should be a teacher. That is the best description I have seen in a long time. I think even a kid could understand that wording.
P.S. Glad you can help.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 13, 2002 11:07 pm I could not get back to ACPI from where I originally got rid of it(through the device manager), so I rolled the system back to 8:30 last night. It appears to have worked, it shows up in device manager now and is back on IRQ 9.
I still can't find my board on the internet, although I found a guy who describes my board to a tee, he is also looking for any information he can find and has had the same luck as me.
I'll keep trying to find those drivers...
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
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Jun 14, 2002 12:57 am Okay, I've managed to get my Soundblaster on it's own IRQ. Now the Video shares with the ethernet.
I still have the audio problems though so I will try to put the SB in a willing subject's computer. I continue the search for motherboard clues, I find my chips everywhere but no board.
I also have a very short slot (2"?) above my PCI slots that I've never noticed before. I don't know if that helps.
Jun 14, 2002 02:11 pm Ok Shep, try this link.
www.viaarena.com/?PageID=...3&schChp=Go
On this page is a list of all the motherboards from each manufacturer that have your chipset. There is a link to each one. Go down the list until you get to the one that matches yours. This should help.
Good Luck!
Mark
P.S Thanks Noize for the kind words. When I get through with my carrer as a stripper at the Helen Keller nursing home for the blind, deaf, and retired, I'll consider it, but right now the money is just too good.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 14, 2002 03:37 pm Mark, thanks but I've already been to that page and gone down the entire list with no luck.
This is insane. I've got all kinds of people helping me look (It's a good thing it's not football season or the guys at the Giants site would be pissed) and we are all basically finding the same stuff over and over.
I am trying to get a hold of the guy my dad got it from, hopefully he will know something and if not maybe I can trade him for somthing else? I get the feeling this "gift" is going to cost me an arm and a leg.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 14, 2002 11:29 pm Stranger still...
I found a site that claims it can ID any motherboard all you have to do is provide your BIOS ID string. So I give them mine and they have no clue where it came from. I managed to go to Award's BIOS site and they described how to find the manufacturer from the BIOS string. So it appears from this clue that the maker is Jetway.
So there I am at jetway's site and no luck at all.
By the way I don't know what any of this means but I'm pretty sure my board is a socket 370 and not a slot 1.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 15, 2002 01:53 pm I found some help here... www.motherboards.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1571 The picture he gave me was almost identical except for a couple of small things like part colors and it looks like I'm missing one or two little barrel lookin' thingies (transistors? I know I shouldn't be allowed to operate a computer). But upon further examination, my manual matches his picture closer than my board so I figure he's found it.
It is a Jetway J-601CF.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Jun 16, 2002 08:59 pm Okey, I'm gonna go through all the posts under this topic, and I'm gonna make notes, cuase I am getting very confused. I know very little about the computer. Do you guys suggest that I go into BIOS and disable whatever it was that needs disabling? Is this a technique that is common or only suggested for the situation on this topic?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 16, 2002 10:51 pm By the way Shep, I believe the slot above the PCI slot's should be an AGP video slot.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 16, 2002 11:48 pm actually I found out it's a AMR slot (no idea what that is though).
Jun 17, 2002 11:30 am Normally, it would be an AGP(Accelerated Graphics Port) slot, but with your chipset, its an AMR slot(Audio Modem Riser). Audio Modem Riser is a cheap audio and modem alternative, but cheesy and everyone doesn't support it.
Jun 17, 2002 12:02 pm Loki, I got through the BIOS in every system I set up and disable stuff I don't need, power management being the first thing I disable every time, ACPI if it is able to be turned off and other things if need be such as COM ports, and other ports if they are not used.
If you do need any of this stuff down the road you can always turn it back on.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Jun 17, 2002 02:11 pm Alright, I was talking with my dad, who is the one who put together my computer for the most part (He writes code adn softwhere for a living so he knowsa bit about computers. heh) and he said that he already went in and disabled ACPI in Bios, so that's cool.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 17, 2002 09:37 pm My dad just sold furniture, and he has all he can do to turn a box on.
Jun 18, 2002 11:03 am Totally off topic here, but my dad is a professional boxing referee. I not sure if we have any boxing fans, but he just did the Holyfield fight a couple weeks ago(Tony Orlando).
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 19, 2002 11:26 pm Now that is kool.
Jun 20, 2002 07:05 am No Way?!? really, Mark? That is so cool, to bad he wasn't the guy that got to ref Tyson getting the crap kicked out of him...
My dad is a machinist, has been for 50 years or so, but he has been coming along on the PC thing, for a guy that was scared of them a year or two ago, he is doing OK. But I'll tell ya, as far as mechanical knowledge, my dad can make McGyver look like an idiot...
Jun 20, 2002 10:53 am Now that's cool! My dad is not the most computer savvy person on the planet, and he's no McGyver either, but at least he's a good father!
....Oh yeah he did ref Tyson back in like 87. (Tyson Vs. Biggs). I think Tyson TKO'd him in the 7th round. One of his longer fights.
shepherdsampatron saint of quality footwearMember
Since: May 30, 2002
Jun 20, 2002 12:09 pm sweet, have you been to any good bouts?
Jun 20, 2002 03:35 pm Nah, they don't give referee's tickets :(
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 21, 2002 12:04 am If we keep going with this thread, I think it is allready the longest one on the board's.
3 page's.
