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Frisco's Most Underrated
Member Since: Jan 28, 2003

Check it out. I thought I would post some songs on NoWhereRadio.com since it seems like the thing to do. I thought if anyones interested, they can see where I'm at, as far as making music. This can serve as the before dbmasters.com/hrc snapshot, and in about 1 to 2 years, you'll be able to see how far I've come(hopefully). Anyhow, the link is:

www.nowhereradio.com/arti...63&alid=401

This link will take you to a page by bace135, but don't worry, that's me(I have many pseudonymns/alias)! I realize the sound quality is not the greatest, but any feedback is welcomed and appreciated. peace

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Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002

Feb 05, 2003 10:27 pm

Coolo,

Did you do the vocals with that "cheep sony" mic you sited in your profile? If so my hat is off to you. Nice sound. Nice voice too. There's some raw talent there! Listened to the instrumental as well. I do very little synthetic stuff myself so I can only say it sounds ok fine to me, but that isn't saying much. Some of these other guys do amazing things, they will be better critics.

Peace! I don't think it will take any two years. You have a real good start!

Frisco's Most Underrated
Member
Since: Jan 28, 2003

Feb 05, 2003 10:55 pm

Thanks for the kind words Walt. Actually, I did do the vocals with the cheap SONY dynamic mic I listed in my profile. And it was plugged directly into the line in of my SBLive. Trust me, there was lots of wav editing going on. The only I recorded were the vocals, everything else started inside the computer. But, that's why I'm here, trying to pick up some pointers and tips so I can do some REAL recording.

I will bring my headphones to work tomorrow and check out everyone elses stuff. If there's one thing I'm good at, it's being a critic! I'm playing...constructive feedback only.

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002

Feb 05, 2003 11:18 pm

i like how it keeps changing, cause i get bored with monotonous rap.

there's so much going on i don't know whether to listen to your vocals or the layers of synths and stuff happening at the same time. this gives it some real replay value, at least for me anyways.

you do alright with soundfonts (never liked them much myself) i'd love to see what you could do with a bunch of VST intruments and a good sequencer like Fruity Loops.

do you have any really superb soundfonts i could get off you? maybe we could make a trade out of it? -j

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Feb 05, 2003 11:25 pm

coolo, I DL'd your track's and will give them a listen tommorrow night before dB get's here to work on the movie. Or maybe while he is here, then he can catch em too.

Peace

The fat one always watches us.
Member
Since: Nov 08, 2002

Feb 06, 2003 07:11 am

Im impressed, listend to Duece Duece
the changes in the music keep the song rolling and "evolving" i think is the best term. Considering the equipment, man are you going to be dangerous when you get better stuff. theres one spot in the middle of Duece where the synth sorta overrides the vocals (a question of taste)
but the quality is quite high. Very quiet. Good job.
Now, i read youre equip list- get that mixer involved. (i just got the same one for xmas),it really helps with adding a little low/high to the dry mix. Also read the equipment posts in here about the sound card choice. i thought i was really moving up when i got my sb live- but here sb cards of anysort are considered "gaming cards" for not much more money you can get a card that does alot more for recording. (so i hear around here)
I'm really impressed with the vocals, radio shack or not- just getting an sm57 or 58 will add quite a bit of depth on the dry mix. (ill get jumped on for saying that, hopefully youll get better advice then)

and lastly, there is no mention of keyboard or synth unit- is that correct? am i to imply that you put the whole song together in sofware? its things like that, well , that just baffle me.
so in conclusion,
great song- really enjoyed
ask around some more before you buy
and keep it up- its fun to hang out and type all day here but if we dont keep making music whats the point of knowing how much compression to use?

***please note: tonyd cannot be held responsible for any "bad" advice. (bad: adj, crappy or incorrect) Tonyd does not condone or reject the use of any of the equipment mentioned above. Tonyd doesnt know much and therefore others should be consulted before any action mentioned by tonyd is taken.*****
that is all, carry on

Frisco's Most Underrated
Member
Since: Jan 28, 2003

Feb 06, 2003 07:30 pm

Hey, thanks for the compliments tonyd. I'm back in learning mode again, trying to figure out new equipment, new processes, and stuff to make the quality come out, so there's much less music making going on right now. But give me a month or two and I'll start it up again.

Jamie, I would indeed be interested in trading instruments, except I have absolutely zero comprehension of what a VSTi is and how they work, and what to do with them. The reason I like soundfonts is that the good ones actually resemble real instruments (as they are often times real instrument recordings being used). But I do have a really excellent cello soundfont and an 808 drum kit soundfont that I'm also quite fond of. I have a bunch others that are useful, but I wouldn't necessarily label them as superb. Oh, pretty cool xylophone too.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Feb 06, 2003 08:20 pm

Coolo, those were great. I loved maroon lagoon. What are you using for synth's? I checked your profile and you didn't have any listed. It sound's as though you have made the best of the stuff you have. The arrangement's were great, and the sound was full and even. Each instrument stood out wonderfully. Both my son's at home here liked hit you in the back and duece duece. I am gonna email the link to yoru track's to my other 2 son's, and I'm sure they will love em too. Can't wait to hear more.

Peace

The fat one always watches us.
Member
Since: Nov 08, 2002

Feb 06, 2003 09:00 pm

youre another that spends the upmost time and energy, to get the absolute best results from the "non-pro"equipment its 2 thumbs up here. another test is fri nite when my neighbors come over (who Really listen to rap, and have no music ability) and ill let them post and say what they think. as general consumers of the type of music you do. they can give you another feeling of how the songs are progressing. (the stuff i play is "acoustic" niel young-ish and they listen but........)
ill ask them to right a review on nowhere
later

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Feb 06, 2003 09:07 pm

So tonyd and my assumption's were right, you are using SF instrument's on your track's. Dude, that totally rock's. You have impressed me, and reminded me of me. I used to make ton's of General Midi file's for people. And used GM and SF synth's to the best of their ability. So now I like those track's even more.

Can't wait to hear what you can do with a full boat of gear.

Peace

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002

Feb 06, 2003 09:18 pm

coolo, you should email me those 3 sound fonts. i have no good sound fonts.

as for VST, it's a software plugin technology created by Steinberg and it's widely supported on many hosts. there's two basic types of VSTs. "VST" effects processors and "VSTi" instruments. the instruments are software synthesizers and samplers and every sort of sound generator you can think of. unlike soundfonts which use prerecorded samples of audio to map an instrument, a VSTi produces the sound in realtime allowing greater control over the resulting sound.

i can highly recommend you stop by htt://www.fruityloops.com and download the free demo of FruityLoops v3.56 and check it out. its 11mb. the demo is fully functional except you can't save. after you mess the program for a couple day, you might realize that it's more than worth the measly $99 they want for it.

Frisco's Most Underrated
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Since: Jan 28, 2003

Feb 06, 2003 09:35 pm

Yeah, everything was sequenced (point, click, and drag) with soundfonts, except vocals. Then recorded midi playback to wav, imported the wavs to CoolEdit Pro, to edit individual wavs (mostly adding effects). Adjusted levels in multitrack part of CoolEdit and there you have it. And like I said, the vocals required a ton of wav editing. But thanks for the feedback. The cool part about your guys feedback vs everyone elses feedback, is you recognize the process behind the music, and you understand how the sound was created. Plus lots of good comments and info floating around on all the boards. Much love to those of the HRC community.

by the way tonyd and noize, the fact that you are willing to share the music with your family/friends is pretty awesome if you ask me. A little scary, but pretty awesome.

Oh yeah, also, I've put together a 21 track CD music project (including the tracks on NWR). If anyone is interested, I'd be more than happy to send a copy via mail. Just email me your mailing address and give me about 2 weeks.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Feb 06, 2003 10:00 pm

Coolo, I sent ya an email with a box to send it to. My real name is Paul, you will know it when you get it. And ya, it's great to have the kid's listen. They keep me thinkin fresh and young.

Peace

The fat one always watches us.
Member
Since: Nov 08, 2002

Feb 07, 2003 06:48 am

Ahh the process, yep we know it. and its a love hate relationship. its a hobbie and passion, and after all the work, if you can create 4 minutes of "non-suck" the hours in the dark are worth it.
on the other hand- when you spend 10 hours on a song and give it another listen, and it's crap, biting the bullet and just hitting delete and starting over is sooo painfull. but it must be done in order to live in a "low-suck musical enviroment"

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