Oct 20, 2007 12:17 pm Heat up the edge of a big coffee can and melt it thru.
Cutting a hole front of the kick-drum for the mic???
Posted on Oct 20, 2007 12:11 pm
Hue
Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Member Since: Apr 11, 2004
We're merging two drum kits today, and one of the jobs on the list is to cut a hole in the front-head of the Ludwig kick. I've never done this before... any suggestions to do this propperly, and avoid what would be an obvious error imediately afterwards?
Also, while I got ya's... any suggestions for the 'stuffing' of these puppies?
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Oct 20, 2007 12:17 pm Heat up the edge of a big coffee can and melt it thru.
Oct 20, 2007 12:22 pm Wow... I'd never have thought of that one !
Cool !
Oct 20, 2007 12:54 pm Quote:
Also, while I got ya's... any suggestions for the 'stuffing' of these puppies?
yes... don't :)
Oct 20, 2007 01:53 pm Depends on your kick and the sound you are going for...if you do stuff it use something dense...a guy I used to know stuffed a leg of his wife's old leg tighs things with some sort of stuffing, tied of the end so it looked like a male appendage and had it dangling out the hole you just melted into the head...I always found that funny...
Oct 20, 2007 02:42 pm Heheh!
I should prolly leave the stuffing to the new-drummer-guy... let him do what he likes, and deal with it only if there's an issue when recording. Good drummer, nice guy... kind'a interested to see where he goes with it.
Oct 20, 2007 04:01 pm If you're looking to get a good overall damping, you can try stretching an old bed sheet over the bearing edge and installing the batter head over it. I did that for a while. Good for studio.
Oct 20, 2007 04:15 pm i'd just take the front head completely off or buy one with a hole i in it....as far as how much/what kind of dampening let the context of the song and sound you are going for dictate that.
cheers mate
C
Oct 20, 2007 04:22 pm And never underestimate the power of strategically placed
Oct 20, 2007 07:24 pm I use them strainers thingys. Its like a circle you stick on and then cut inside it. Keeps the tensions so you circle doesnt rip as easily and so your resonant head doesn't flop about as much.
Oct 20, 2007 08:01 pm I'd say a coffee can, pressed onto the head, while on a board of some sort, then use a utility knife to cut around the can.
I've never done it, but it seems simple enough.
Oct 20, 2007 08:08 pm Just invite my ex-wife over.
She can stare a hole into it.
Oct 20, 2007 08:21 pm Ha, is that where you got your username?
Oct 20, 2007 08:36 pm No, that was created with a namegen that I downloaded from Limewire.
Oct 20, 2007 10:39 pm Like dB stated. The heating of the coffee can edge and letting it melt its way through is the safest way to do it without risk of the head ripping or being mis-cut. I used that method for years. Many around here did as well with great luck.
Oct 20, 2007 10:43 pm Seems like we're overthinking a hole.
Well, we're men. What else is new.
Oct 20, 2007 10:59 pm I'm with you on that Herb for sure!
Its just a hole for crying to pete.
Oct 22, 2007 05:35 pm Well, I got around to micing things before cutting things, and ended up with a pretty darn good double-kick sound just the way they were.(One mic pointed inside the hole, and the other on the 'face', no stuffing) Not too pleased with the snare yet, I'm short a mic stand for the under-micing... I'm pretty sure that's the issue, as it lacks the rattle somewhat. A very productive weekend, nonetheless. The kit grew a couple of toms, another kick, and is up to eight cymbals. Everything is tuned nicely, and sounds killer. The color of the two kits is 'close enough', so it doesn't look too 'tacky'... more like shaddowed. It's gettin'-there. I'll try to post some pics later tonight.
Oct 22, 2007 07:23 pm H'okay. Pics are up. Dig that ca-razy overhead scheme! Five mics on the kit, two kicks(EV635a), the overheads(mxl991), and the snare(sm57... soon to be added a second mic from below)
edit: I added a recording to my profile that, although tweaked, is basically what I'll be working with for a while. The guy hits REALLY hard... I'm hoping it's just a case of zeal that will pass... hoping.
Oct 22, 2007 08:44 pm Sounds like a pretty tight room, good in other words. Lotsa brass is right, they pick up well with those OH mic's.
The kit is looking good by the way. Nice throne, but the sparkle blue one was way cool. But I do prefer the comfort of the full saddle type thrones as well myself. Thats what I have here, no back on mine though. And from the pix you can't really see any diff in the color.
Your on your way to the big time with that double bass though. :-)
Oct 22, 2007 09:02 pm Now if he'll just back 'er down a smidgen... classic.
Thanks, bud.
Oct 23, 2007 03:05 am Not to make everyone "over think the hole" but i read somewhere on a drummer site that the placing of the hole and the size of it has some effect on the sound, so id consult a drum tech about that before actually going ahead with it.
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