Jan 24, 2003 05:43 am I think it could very well help, but like you said, it's only one part of the chain...but an important one...have you tried puting the mic in a different location, maybe a more reflective room or something like that?
mic preamps.
Posted on Jan 24, 2003 12:51 am
stupe
Member Since: Apr 03, 2002
hi guys. i was just wondering if preamps make a big difference in the signal coming through a mic. because right now i'm running all my mics through my alesis studio 32 mixing board. and the preamps sound a bit sterile, and everything comes out with little high end, i always have to boost highs on the signals with eq. just wondering if a good preamp like the AVALON 737 tube would help me achieve those pro recording quality's with the smooth mid range's and crispy sounds not sounding too sterile. will a preamp help? or is it a different factor. like the room, or the mic, or the way i EQ things?
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Jan 24, 2003 05:43 am I think it could very well help, but like you said, it's only one part of the chain...but an important one...have you tried puting the mic in a different location, maybe a more reflective room or something like that?
Jan 25, 2003 01:58 pm db have you ever used the AKG C 414 condenser mics? i am interested in these because they are boxy and cheap.
Jan 25, 2003 03:22 pm nope, I have yet to buy a condensor...I used a couple of georg's (a friend/member that vanished a while back)...I was impressed with the sound, but I could never justify the money/performance ratio since I do mostly mastering and/or direct recording.
Jan 27, 2003 10:24 am what happened to george?
i think a condensor might be one of my next buys. all my mics just blow.
Jan 27, 2003 10:44 am I dunno what happened, as I recall he left a message on my answering machine a few months back, but I didn't return the call, I hate phones and never use them. Anyone who knows me well knows that... ;-)
Jan 27, 2003 01:52 pm Hey Stupe, I have used em, and I still prefer my Oktava MK319 over them anyday. They are a good mic don't get me wrong. Just mot my kind of sound. The Oktava is a much warmer and to me deeper sounding condensor. And I believe the Oktava can be had a bit cheaper then the AKG.
And yes Jamie, addign a condensor to your arsenal will be a good investment. Dynamic mic's are great and can take some severe abuse, but they will never match the sonic quality of even a cheap condensor.
Jan 27, 2003 11:50 pm cool noize, i know of your love of the mk319's (off of many past posts you have made) thtats why i always think NOIZE-319 when i see them on ads. but anyway noize i was wondering if you could answer a question i had.
how come in big time studios they still use these large reel tape things to record? i dont know if they actually record but i always see this big reel tape thing and some buttons and when it starts recording the tape touches the head thing and starts recording. the tape is about 1" thick maybe and it always looks like this big retro machine. i thought we were in the digital era where hard disk and adat recording were dominating. do these big reel things provide a better sound? mainly i just was wondering why they use them.
here is a picture of one of them
Jan 28, 2003 08:33 pm Well the truth is many studio's hae some big money tied up in those rig's. And they are also die hard analog people. Many of those studio's that still have tape also hae digital room's too. You can actually combine the two and lock em together with time code and such. I did for many year's with a deck much like in your pic. I ran a big 2" 16 track along with an atari 1030 computer and 6 Alesis sequancer's. All locked together with a time code generater from JL Cooper. It was a nightmare but worth it to run all the synth's and everything at once. The main reason they are used today is for that warm fuzzy feeling that tape give's when you run a hot signal to the deck and saturate the tape. I can emulate that same sound in the PC now so I have given up on ever running a big 2" tape machine like that ever again. Also the thing to remember with them is they are like a little baby. They need constant attention and must be cared for like an infant. I mean coddled and nurtured. I know how much I spent every year in maintenance, and that money now could buy me several 2 gig P4's. But many people still live to run one of those bugger's, and they still build em too. I don't think the need for big tape machine's will ever die.
By the way, the machine you have the pic of is a 2" 16 track, not real sure of the make though. It look's real clean though.
Feb 10, 2003 07:25 am hi there, I was just looking at the pricing for the Oktava MK319 and noticed they are drastically reduced in price, from $599 now selling for $99 is there any reason for this, I am sort of reluctant to get something that has dropped in price so much, wondering what the reason behind it is.
Feb 10, 2003 08:57 pm i too am looking into getting an MK-319 with my income tax return real soon. I've only ever heard one real negative thing about them, and that's that Oktava has ppor quality control, in that a 319's stats vary from unit to unit. But this was from some unreliable sources in a different recording community.
Otherwise I've heard nothing but praise for the 319, which leads me to be compelled to purchase two Shure SM57's and an Oktava MK-319 as soon as my check comes ;O) -j
Feb 10, 2003 10:37 pm They are all hand built in Russia. That is one reason each mic has a little differant flavor. I am buying a nother 319 and a pair of 012's next week. I will still stick with Oktava, for the warmth and fullness of it's sound. I do have other's which are purpose built mic's, but overall I love the warm fuzzy sound of the 319.
Feb 14, 2003 02:44 pm i will always back noize up on the oktavas. ive got a 319 myself and love it to death. very warm sounding and fully capable of any vocals you throw at it.
Feb 14, 2003 05:34 pm Da, Two more ruples for the 319!
I'm never timid about recomending that mic!
Dusk-be-dawn-Da!
Feb 16, 2003 09:33 pm Yep, I will stick to my gun's on the 319. this site is mostly about saving money, not always, but mostly. Call me Pigheaded, but the 319 is the dagnabbed mic you can buy for that kind of money. And it is really pretty versatile.
Yes,there are better mic's out there, or should I say, differant. I will even say I own other, more high dollar (which some people relate to quality) mic's. But I will always turn to my trusty 319 first, as it truly is the warm fuzzy in the digital recording world.
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