Aug 03, 2007 12:00 pm The Mic Package link im thinking of getting if best to mic:
www.musiciansfriend.com/p...kage?sku=703626
Recording Electric Bass Guitar
Posted on Aug 03, 2007 11:59 am
xkapin_reelity
Musician on a Mission
Member Since: Jul 30, 2007
I have a quick question, what is the best way to get a good recording of a electric bass guitar.
I have a Fender Bassman 100 watt Bass amp with a SXL mic line out on it. I have a Behringer MX802A mixer with 4 mic pre amps and phantom power. I have a 20bit Echo Gina sound card with a break out box that I hook my mixer into.
Would it be best to run the line out into the mic pre amps on the mixer then into the break out box
or
Should i get a Large Condensor mic (looking at the MXL 990 and MXL 991 kit) and hook it into lets say the M-Audio Audio Buddy mic pre amp/ DI and mic the bass amp and the Audio Buddy into my break out box
You guys have been real helpful with past questions i had, so I thought this would be the best place to ask!
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Aug 03, 2007 12:00 pm The Mic Package link im thinking of getting if best to mic:
www.musiciansfriend.com/p...kage?sku=703626
Aug 03, 2007 12:12 pm Personally, I'd skip the amp altogether and just run the bass into the mixer via a direct injection box...I often run direct and miking, but typically end up using only the direct track.
Aug 03, 2007 03:44 pm I'm doing that too, though I'm just plugging the bass right into the line in on the mixer. Seems to work quite well.
I tweak it a little once it's in the PC, but it's been working pretty decent so far.
I've heard that it's pretty tough to get a good acoustic recording of a bass amp, because of the size of the waves. They trounce all over themselves unless you have a med-sized venue to record it in.
ymmv =).
Aug 04, 2007 08:54 am I mix both mic and line, the line just doesnt give me enough attitude. A good condensor is great, ull get all the stuff u need from the line, and the mic is just to pick up the character.
Mic it about a foot for two away, the room is important. Unlike guitars, i like to use a somewhat lively room to do bass... i used my bassits bedroom/piano room, which isnt big at all, but it has good hard wood floors and nice angles.
Aug 04, 2007 11:27 pm I'm a direct guy myself. I usually go through a DI straight into the desk or sometimes these days I will hit the Line 6 UX-2 and use a bass amp model.
Aug 05, 2007 12:46 am Yeah I love the direct connection for recording bass at home. With the right DI/preamp, it comes out very well. It seems that every time I try to blend a direct bass with a mic'd cabinet, I end up not using the mic track at all. Admittedly I don't have a proper bass amp nor a proper bass mic.
Aug 06, 2007 09:51 am I like using a di and two mics. I do happen to love the sound of my amp/cab. One LD Condenser pointed at the horn and one D112 on the bottom 10" speakers and sound port. Allign leading edges of wave forms to retain punch. A good Solid DI in the mix with a pretty fair amount of the condenser. Just a little of the d112 to bring out sub bottom.
Aug 06, 2007 09:56 am Yeah, with 8" or 10" you can get away with miking, what I hate is when people mic 15" or 18" big ol' bass speakers and put the mic right on the cone, not realizing the sound doesn't even fully develop for a few feet...and the sound is muddy and ugly...my last combo amp had a 15" and an 8" crossed over and biamped...miking the 8" really gave a nice, tight sound.
Aug 06, 2007 10:14 am Thank you dB. For whatever reason I couldn't put it into those simple terms. I agree fully. The larger speakers are really treachurous. In most rooms that wave has folded back on itself when the mic gets the signal. I had a 15 bottom cab for awhile and did not mic it.
Aug 06, 2007 12:10 pm I'll concur on the DI vs. Mic thing. As dB-Wan mentioned, it takes a few feet to get the wavelength going on a bass (I think the low E is about 28').
A good DI box, or even just going into the board and adding some VST action has worked well for me.
Helian makes a decent amp simulator. Depends on the sound you're looking for.
Careful compression, and you should be okay.
Aug 07, 2007 01:57 am I have to confess I use DI for bass as well unless it's a sort of lead bass and then i use a guitar amp. I don't use a modeller on the DI, just EQ and add some ambience, usually gives me the sound i want.
Aug 07, 2007 11:02 am I record the bass clean DI. I'll EQ it a bit and compress. If I'm looking for something a little different I will apply a GuitarRig2 vst to it.
Aug 07, 2007 12:48 pm Fwiw, blockfish is my favourite compressor for bass, DI or no. It has one of the most perfect presets for bass compression ever afaic, i play with the hardness of the attack and sometimes the amoutn of compression but rarely anything else. It's really great, sincerely.
Aug 09, 2007 07:05 pm Oooh, ooh, good tip Rigsby....I like that...
Aug 09, 2007 07:16 pm Actually a lot of the "fish" plugins seem to be quite good. I've only briefly used them but I liked what I saw/heard so far. I don't think I tried the blockfish on a bass though. Gotta give that one a go.
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