i know u guys can help..Drunk machine maybe
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Posted on Jan 31, 2007 08:26 pm
Erick Cardon
Member Since: Jan 31, 2007
well i need help on equipment and also how to work it all.. Im a music lover and just decided i want to be a part of all that and create beats of my own.. Maybe a drum machine with lots of samples, i know u guys all know wat im talking about. just a little help plz. THANKS!
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Jan 31, 2007 08:54 pm for starters, don't post more than once.
secondly, welcome to HRC.
thirdly, in order to help we kinda need to know more than what you say here, what do you have now, what are you trying to do, just simple beats, or songs, lyrics, or what?
We know the business and the all that, but you are not really giving us much to go on.
Jan 31, 2007 09:03 pm Oh im srry
Aha like i said im a real beginner.. im just trying to make beats.. Mah brothers a rapper and i just want something good to create them.. i was think a Drum machine thats real affordable and im thinking ebay.
thank you!
Jan 31, 2007 09:31 pm I am personally, not a huge fan of eBay.
That said, are you looking for a software type drum machine of a hardware thing? Do you have a decent PC or any music hardware?
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Feb 01, 2007 12:27 pm Drum machine will basically give you drums, maybe some generic bass sounds. If that's all you want, you can do that. If you want to add samples, or some synths, or other instruments, you may want to get a keyboard, or an MPC, or a variety of programs that will run on your program.
Before we can help you, YOU have to THINK through exactly what you want, and then we can help you get there. Anything worth doing is going to take a little effort!
Feb 01, 2007 07:51 pm Yeh thanks alot guys..
Im srry i have been researching this up but still a little confused. Yeh i have a decent PC and maybe i can get some good sfotware for it. im guna be getting a drum machine real soon. I want to be able to make a decent beat u know wat i mean.
Sorry if im making this a little dificult on u guys. im just a bit confused
Feb 01, 2007 07:52 pm And i have no clue wat an MPC is Coolo. And to let u guys know im planning on getting a Boss dr. rhythm dr-770, just tell em if thats any good fro a drum machine.
And will any regular speakers work for this?
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Feb 01, 2007 08:41 pm We use the Dr770 for stuff sometimes... it's alright, and yeah you can use anything from headphones to an amplified speaker set up for it .
Feb 01, 2007 08:50 pm I wouldn't waste time with a hardware drum machine. Software beatmakers are less expensive, more expandable and a lot of times more user friendly.
Software like FruityLoops, Reason, Project5 and other are a much better value for the money in my opinion.
Feb 01, 2007 08:56 pm Thnx Hue.. and Thanks to u too..
Ive used Fruityloops in the past and didnt get much out of it.. and a long while back a friend of mine had a drum machine and i really enjoyed messing around with it.. thats just me..
i would hate to go against your word bro but drum machines are more my thing maybe u would understand.
But i dont understand drum machines much.. like all the looping and wat not. maybe u can enlighten me on that a little. And wat would i get out of setting it up to a computer.
Feb 01, 2007 09:33 pm yeah, everybody has their preferences, if drum machines are yours, that's fine, but, based on what I have gotten out of this conversation so far is that it's quite likely you really don't know enough about either to really make a good decision. not trying to be insulting, just an observation.
computers are simply more extensible, and less expensive than hardware solution. drum achines are pretty much limited to the sounds it comes with, or adding more is buying another piece of hardware to use with it. with software you simply add more samples to it, which you can buy, downloads for free from one of the many sample sharing sites (there are loads of sites offering legally freely downloadable sound samples) or make your own samples. the interface is usually friendly because you have a 17" monitor rather than a few lines of some cheesy LCD screen layout.
I am not trying to say software is the only choice, hardware is out there for a reason, some folks like it, but more and more people are leaving it for computer based systems for the reasons I state above. With the speed and cost of modern computers it simply makes sense.
Feb 01, 2007 09:44 pm Alright thnx alot bro.
It really helped a lot. Ill get back to you if i need any more help. Ive been doing some research so i should have enough info to get my conclusion on what im a do.
Ill talk to you soon
Good bye
and thanks you
Feb 01, 2007 09:46 pm No prob, welcome to HRC, we are all here to help each other. let us know how things turn out.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Feb 01, 2007 09:47 pm Yeah dB, software is really where it's at, agreed . I too understand how the 'my way' thing comes into play, though... if it's the unbeaten path, but close to the mark . One of the reasons why there still is alot of voodoo in recording, in spite of it being based soley on 'reality', ie... scientifically-proven formulea, is that one approach can work well with one person, and be for crap with another . That said, if down the road a bit, should Mr Cardon choose to adhere to the voice of reason,(npi) the 770 should be a right-nice compliment to a DAW set up .
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Feb 02, 2007 03:01 pm Fruity loops had a learning curve for me, but I can definitely see it being more usefull and open compared to a drum machine. Just like with anything you would have to read/practice up to get the most out of it. I have a DR550 and would go software over it any day.
Feb 02, 2007 05:20 pm ohh i c where u guys are coming from... i think im guna get the Drum machine and also fruity loops. i did use it in the past and just wasnt working form me but this time ill make it work for me
Hue can u explain the 770 and DAW setup for me?
Thanks alot guys.. i wouldnt meet a nicer people anywhere
Feb 02, 2007 05:23 pm And adding to that, my computer isnt really that good.. it would prob support a some decent software but like i said i used it in the past and it did have a big effect on my computer space.
Feb 02, 2007 05:36 pm Can I ask how much time you actually gave FruityLoops to do it for you? Did you try for an hour and just give up, did you ever read the manual or ask somebody for a couple basic tips? Cuz it's actually a pretty intuitive program.
Feb 02, 2007 05:41 pm ummhhh i spent a few days on it and i didnt read the manual or ask anybody for tips.. Thats y im saying this time ill make it work..
Last time i used it was a while ago, im 16 right now so think back like 1 or 2 years back. At that age i didnt have the patience for that.
Wat do u think i should do bro like seriousley..
Wat setups are good like Hues talking about.
Im on a small budget i just lost my job.
Feb 02, 2007 05:51 pm Well, seriously what I think you should do is get a new job first...don't spend money you ain't got :-) That's the best primary advise I can give.
After that, give FL or some other app a try, they can be daunting at first, but really with one or two simple pointers it all falls together pretty logically, at least the basics. I know I sat around for a couple days frustrated, then learned one or two basic things and it changed my whole perspective.
I like little MIDI keyboards for controllers, you can use them like drum machines, like synths, or MIDI controllers of any sort...and they are pretty cheap.
Personally, I think a drum machine is a waste for somebody that needs a wider range of tools for a minimum budget. When you create beats, it isn't about just drums, it's bass guitar, guitar, synth and effects and such...all those are creatable via a MIDI controller/keyboard like one of these www.homerecordingconnecti...roller+with+USB and a simple sequencing tool like Fruity Loops, Project 5 or whatever.
Feb 03, 2007 11:55 am ohh ok
so thats wat u think i should do.. can u give me a little more info on these keyboards... Do i have to have it connected to the computer to use it.
WHats everything i need to make beats.. just fruity loops and the keyboard.?
And do u have an AIM i can talk u on? Itll make mah life much easier cause i have all these drum machines on watch and if u think i shouldnt get it i need to know sooner.
Feb 03, 2007 12:11 pm Im back and i have bought the MIDI controller u said would be good for me. Itll be here in a few days and i got it for 75 with the software and such. Its in good condition so i decided to get it.
Maybe u can give me a few tips on it wen it gets here and a few tipd on fruity loops also wen i get that..
THanks alot bro i really appreciate it like i said i wouldnt find nice people anywhere else.. This is about that best website ive eva ben on.
thanks again.
Feb 05, 2007 03:38 pm u guna respond?
Feb 05, 2007 04:11 pm Sorry, but I have had a few more pressing matters this weekend than keeping up with the forum.
The controller must be plugged in to your PC, then you can use it as in interface to FL. I am nobody to give you FL tips, many here us it, I don't any more, I learn toward Project 5 or Sonar's integrated MIDI sequencer.
I don't play on AIM except for a few people, the only advice you'll see is what I give on the forum, then it's here for everybody to learn from.
Feb 05, 2007 04:12 pm oh ok thank you and hopefully nothing too tragic happened on your weekend...
Just one last question. wat would u recommend i get.. like from project 5, FL, etc
Feb 05, 2007 04:15 pm My last blog says exactly how friggin horrible my weekend was.
I suggest you download demos of each and try them and decide yourself. I like Sonar's MIDI, plus it's a multitracker. Thats been my choice...lots of people dig FL, and I can see why, it's pretty easy to use based on the last time I played with it (years ago).
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Feb 05, 2007 05:04 pm Haven't been around the net lately... glad y'a got things rolling there, Erick . You're much better off with a controller and software .
Read your blog dB... damn . : (
Feb 06, 2007 06:50 pm thanks alot Hue.. its good to meet people that care lol. i come across alot of D**ks going thorugh forums..
anyways.. i guess imma go with FL and tryout Sonars MIDI.
Feb 06, 2007 06:55 pm we work hard to make sure there is only one d**k here...me.
I'm glad you are getting the help you need, lots of forums are just full of jerks who won't talk to you unless you have state of the art everything and already know everything.
Feb 06, 2007 07:19 pm yeh thats exactly wat i mean.....
I think my keyboard is coming in tommorow so imma def come back and see if u can help me with some tips or something after i read the Manual.
Feb 07, 2007 06:31 pm Alright.. i got the keyboard... and installed everything.... what program should i use because i tried FL and it wasnt working out.. i cant find out how to use the keyboard on it and everything..
I have no clue what to do from here, i had a friend try to help me and its not working.. The keyboard turns on and everything but doesnt do anything wen i press the leys or anything..
If anybody can please help me over AIM or something plz.
Feb 07, 2007 06:32 pm I need a program thats especially good for MIDI controllers..
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Feb 07, 2007 06:42 pm using midi in FL is easy. Just go Options, Midi Settings, set up your keyboard as the controller and BAM, there ya go
Feb 07, 2007 07:02 pm ok i got that working before u told me srry.. anyways.. what are the good things about having a keyboard using FL.. like i duno wat i would use this for..
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Feb 07, 2007 07:09 pm playing the synths instead of having to manually program them into the step sequencer is probably the biggest plus.
Feb 07, 2007 07:55 pm 
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Feb 07, 2007 08:00 pm Please go back and read the rules of the forum before posting further. Asking for pirated software is a violation of the rules.
Feb 07, 2007 08:04 pm ...and a lame thing to do...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Feb 07, 2007 11:09 pm Ooops!
