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I was emailed this compliments of HRC member Geoff...and I had to share. First, note our boys in Iraq must not be that busy, second, note how sick the following stories are:

* 2006 STELLA AWARDS.*

Life can be so true and funny. Especially where juries are found Lurking.

Time once again to review the winners of the Annual "Stella Awards."

The Stella Awards are named after 81 year-old Stella Liebeck who Spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued McDonald's (in NM). That case inspired the Stella Awards for the most frivolous,

Ridiculous, successful lawsuits in the United States.

So, what were the JURIES thinking ?

Here are this year's winners:

5th Place (tie):

Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas, was awarded $80,000, by a Jury Of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who Was Running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store Were

Understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the Misbehaving Little toddler was Ms. Robertson's son

5th Place (tie):

19-year-old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical Expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel Of the car when he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps.

5th Place (tie):

Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania, was leaving a house he Had Just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get The garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was

Malfunctioning. He couldn't re-enter the house because the door Connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled It shut. The Family was on vacation, and Mr. Dickson found himself locked In the

Garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, And a large bag of dry dog food. He sued the homeowner's insurance Claiming the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury Agreed, to the tune of $500,000. In my opinion this is so Outrageous That it should have been 2nd Place!

4th Place :

Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500, and Medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next Door Neighbor's' beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced Yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog Might have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams Who had climbed over the fence into the yard and was shooting it Repeatedly with a pellet gun.

3rd Place :

A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, $113,500. After she slipped on a soft Drink And broke her coccyx (tailbone). The beverage was on the floor Because Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds Earlier During an argument.

2nd Place:

Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware, successfully sued the owner Of a Night club in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom Window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This

Occurred while Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the Window in The ladies room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge . She was Awarded $12,000 and dental expenses.

1st Place :

This year's runaway winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32-foot Winnebago Motor home. On her first trip home, (from an OU football game), Having driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 Mph And calmly left the driver's seat to go into the back & make Herself A sandwich. Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and Overturned. Mrs.Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising her in The Owner's' manual that she couldn't actually do this. The jury Awarded Her $1,750,000, plus a new motor home. The company actually Changed Their manuals on the basis of this suit, just in case there were any other complete morons around.

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Czar of Cheese
Member
Since: Jun 09, 2004


Dec 21, 2006 08:32 am

Are these actually true? If so, our legal system is more F'd up than I thought.

I'm going to Google some of these and see if they're real...

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 08:37 am

I've heard werider true stories about our system.

Cool avatar by the way.

Oh, wait, it's the GB/MN day, you have to be my arch enemy today!

patron saint of quality footwear
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Since: May 30, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 08:40 am

Don't bother getting pissed off guys, this isn't real.

Snopes.com is your friend, hehehe, www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 08:41 am

snopes is cool, I never checked them out, but there are other stories that are real...

good to know tho.

patron saint of quality footwear
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Since: May 30, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 08:42 am

The scary thing in all this is that we do now live in a world where those stories aren't all that hard to believe.


Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 08:43 am

the classic mcdonalds coffee story IS real...

patron saint of quality footwear
Member
Since: May 30, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 08:48 am

The McDonalds one yes, but all these Stella awards 2006 ones are not.
The only reason I even knew to look them up is because I've seen that very same email for the last 4 or 5 years now.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 08:49 am

That is interesting, so our good soldiers in Iraq are not only wasting their time, but ours too :-)

I got suckered.

patron saint of quality footwear
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Since: May 30, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 08:50 am

In fact, I believe the cases themselves may have been real but were all thrown out of court, if that's true then this should serve to reaffirm belief in the system and not inspire anger.

*Edit* Actually, having gone back and read the snopes page again, these weren't even real cases to begin with.

Member
Since: Apr 26, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 10:00 am

I called bullshit on the one about the guy stuck in the garage. EVERY garage door has an emergency release from the motor so you can open the door by hand, you know, in the event you get trapped in the garage and the opener isn't working.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 10:07 am

Yeah, but some peeps are just that dumb too...

Ne'er ate 'er
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Since: Apr 05, 2006


Dec 21, 2006 11:01 am

Seems like I've gotten that email every year for the last 5, and each time it's labeled as this year's Stella Awards. Indeed, snopes can be your friend.

You can get the real ones here, as well as the best weird news: www.thisistrue.com/

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
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Since: May 11, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 01:07 pm

I did have the priveledge to see one in court back in 98 while I was doing annual training at 18th Airbore Corps. Federal Litigation Division.

Slip and fall accident... the plantif was suing Walmart because she fell and broke her hip. She said she was tring to reach an item and needed an extra couple inches so she noticed a pallet under the table and stood on that... she also said in court that she noticed that the pallet was already broken in the area she was standing on. So... obviously it broke more, and she fell and fractured her hip. It was very hard to not laugh at the poor lady... but her lawyer was worse and the judge tore into him... when he went to call his one expert witness..a "slip-and-fall-ologist" (at proably a mere $600 an hour) the judge wouldn't admit him...and the lawyer ..._in front of the jury_ (who at any given point there were atleast two who were asleep) BEGGED "Your honor! This witness is critical to my case! But! but! but...I need him!" I thought he was going to cry...

Of course the altime Stella would go to SCO... I mean... they've already been fined in two countries for "stock kiting" with their IBM lawsuit...

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Dec 21, 2006 01:41 pm

heh, "slip-and-fall-ologist"

that's funny.

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 02:30 pm

good catch guys . even if they are false it is a funny read . Hay dB , i have a talent for multi tasking(don't hate) and access to multiple computer among other things. some one has to monitor all the action from a desk and tell em what to do."I fly a desk in the chairforce." Plus i've done my time as a lacky.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Dec 21, 2006 02:59 pm

the garage door thing , yeah, i couldnt imagine someone not being able to find and use the release.

if these had been real, the restaurant one with the slipping on the floor would have been the one that was most enraging to me.


Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 08:16 pm

NO matter if they are not true. There are plenty of bad judgment's out there that are made every single day. And we are the poor sap's who end up paying for them. Our legal system does indeed need a big makeover.

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Dec 21, 2006 09:15 pm

From what I've seen as a enlisted JAG the military system is "better" ...faster...easier... you know...dark side :) but any way... the problem is the attournys taking their cases personally. The focus is on winning guilt or innosence... in the military guilt is assumed and it's generally a matter of determining correct "corrective action" by reviewing the mitigating circumstances...

example... in my 8 years as a reserve paralegal I was primarially working on drug abuse cases. Only ONCE was a case ruled that the accused did not abuse drugs and that is because everything was screwd up from the collection of the sample to the proceedures at the lab... and I'm sure the lab still has to cite that ONE example whenever one of their techs testify... but generally it goes along the lines of:

Government submits Lab packet as proof of drug abuse.

Defense submits soldiers awards and tries to get soldiers chain of command to say how good he is, AND (mandatory) submits proof of the successful completeion of rehab.

Board finds that the soldier abused drugs, and recommends that he/she be retained.

General approves retention. Initiates rehabilitative transferr.

If the chain of command comes in on the governments side (or no rehab) then the soldier will be seperated with a general under honorable ("under" as in "below") discharge...

Criminal cases are a bit complex... but the assumptuion of guilt remains... there are two ways to do criminal... judicial (court martial) and non-judicial (Article 15) ...drug abuse seperations are "Administrative."

My unit only did one court martial for a drug dealer so I'm not too familiar with how they work but Article 15's are basically a plea bargan... the purpose is to be fast and non career ending... most soldiers get an article 15... It's my understanding that there are no Sergeant Majors who don't have Article 15's at some point in their career.

They cover all court marital offences and have a maximum punishment of along the lines of 1/2 pay for two months, 7 days confinement, a couple weeks special duty, and a couple weeks restriction to unit area (messhall & barracks) the process is

offecnce committed
Investigative Officer assigned
offender caught (important! :) )
Article 15 notification
Legal Counsel meeting
Offender requests court martial/contimues with Article 15
hearing, "judge" is company commander (may be battalion) (no defense attourny provided...no JAG or legal involvement...
offender is found guilty or IO is screamed at for being an idiot.
punishment assigned
punishment takes effect
offender nonconcurs and requests appeal
JAG review and submits recommendation to next higher commander (usually battalion)
higher commander either approves, reduces, or suspends punishment. if suspends "parol" is up to 6 months - I think)
remaining punishment takes effect...
All of that needs to take a couple days.. a week is too long.

some offences require a habbit to actually be punitive... thats what a "counseling statement" s for... basically like a letter from your boss saying your not doing your job and need to change "or else" ...where the "or else" needs to be specified. Physical fitness failure is one of the big ones for this...




but back to taking cases personally... umm... it's bad... though generally the guilty guy is "obviouly guilty" we don't go much into rehabilitaion...and mitigation isn't evenly applied.... plus the reliance on lawyers to navigate the system is bad thing IMNSHO..because when you get a bad one you can be significantly screwed...

and just because someone is a lawyer doesn't mean they know that they're doing... and that applies to doctors and other "professionals"

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Dec 21, 2006 09:29 pm

interesting read zek. I've been to a few hearings and they've gone a lot like that, there are slight differences between branches but it's looks to be about the same. an Article 15 as stated above does not have to be a carear ending thing either. I recived a DUI ( a while back) off base and what happened to me was my driving privlages were revoked from base for a year, I recieved a LOR (letter of reprimand) not a big deal, and wasn't able to test for my next rank that year. Now what CA did was another story . If I was to get busted on base , that would probably mean an Article 15 , loss of pay, rank, and extra duty if not a discharge . SO kids if you decide to join the military you have to follow more than just the civilan law you have to abide by the UCMJ.

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Dec 21, 2006 10:17 pm

I just realized I didn't cover civil court... which is where most of our problems reside...atleast most of our fears. the basic tenet of US civil court is "Anyone can sue you for any reason."

I think civil proceedings should be tied to criminal ones... if someone sues you for farting on them there should be an ***-ault charge... and them getting a civil award should be directly tied to a criminal conviction...that way civil awards become part of criminal punishments...one trial.. one system...

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Dec 21, 2006 10:38 pm

heh... DUI's are some of the hardest things I've dealt with...especially in the reserves because a lot of us especially in JAG units) don't have military drivers licenses. Back when I was in Minneapolis a few years ago doing iraq deployments we had a transportation company come though and a guy just got a DUI...we had no idea if that effected his military drivers license...and if it did he'd be non-MOSQ and therfore non-deployable... I think it was determined that it didn't effect his military drivers license...

This was also the time when a guy couldn't remember if he was convicted for domestic violence (Lautenburg Admendment) ...we then noticed it only applies to personal firearms... not crew served weapons like the automatic gernade launchers, M60, SAW, etc.... but we never decided if soldiers were theoretically deployable without personal firearms...

the other funny conversation was:

Soldier: I need to speak to a lawyer...
Me: ok, CPT [soandso] this soldier has a question...
CPT: ok, what is it?
Soldier: I'm gay.
CPT: awww ...F$%K!

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Dec 22, 2006 01:30 pm

I love the last part , my coffee is now on my computer screen.

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