Dec 10, 2006 08:02 am hmm... maybe a vocoder with the oohh aahhh sounds
Idea for faking a choir
Posted on Dec 10, 2006 12:37 am
St. Dave
Member Since: Dec 23, 2002
I don't have access to a large choir for my compositions. :-( But I was thinking I might fake it. Would it be possible to use a vocoder, with some sort of choral SoundFont used for the carrier signal, and my own voice to be modulated? That way, I'd get the 'sound' of the choir, but it would (might, in reality) sound like singing instead of the usual 'oooh' and 'aaaah' of a SoundFont? Has anybody tried something similar? Obviously, this kind of chicanery would probably not stand up well on its own, but mixed into a song, it might fool ears? Or has somebody tried it, and it sound all too fake?
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Dec 10, 2006 08:02 am hmm... maybe a vocoder with the oohh aahhh sounds
Dec 10, 2006 01:03 pm Melodyne would do this although it is not a free solution.
Dec 10, 2006 02:14 pm St.Dave, I have done it using the vocoder. It does require a good carrier though to avoid any fake sounding. Although most times it works well it can sound very bad.
The other option is to set up manually several copies of your vocal set with slight pitch and tonal changes. Then turn that into a single stereo track and duplicate that a couple of times, again using varied pitch and tone to get it to sound full.
Dec 11, 2006 04:15 pm I approximated a small choir in a similar way to Noize2u. I recorded around 10 different tracks by singing in different parts of the room and different rooms, close to the mic, away from the mic, behind the mic etc, trying some slightly different "accents" etc. each time.
Then I copied them until I had about 40 of them, moved them all over the panning spectrum, subtle pitch correction on some, not on others etc.etc.
It didn't work too badly though it was more of an experiment that a real use.
Dec 14, 2006 05:16 pm I actually just "faked" a choir for a song I was doing with my dad.
My dad had sang a certain part of a song 3 times. Only 1 of them was a "perfect" take, but the other two were pretty darn good. So I took them, and similar to what was said above, I used some subtle pitch correction here and there, copied them over and over, slowed a few down very very slightly then manually added to adjust spaces between words, sped up a few slightly and did the same, panned them all over the place, then used a slight delay to make it sound like there were twice as many voices. Then my wife sang that same short part 5 times, each time, like mentioned above, she tried to accent different words, tried some harmony parts on different sections, etc, so all 5 takes were different. Then I went through and did the same types of things to all 5 of those takes. Finally, my wife also sang some harmonizing "oooh
"s in there, too, and I beefed them up as well. I mixed them all down to stereo, added some really slight and really light delay again, and some slight reverb, eq'd a bit, all to make sure it sounded like they were in a big room.
Took me a couple hours (I probably could've done it quicker, but I was having fun), but I came out with a really good choir sound out of it all.
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