EMU 0404 Software
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Posted on Dec 04, 2006 10:21 pm
Eric
Member Since: Oct 25, 2006
Now that the other issues seem to be at bay, here's my next question.This card comes with a barrage of software, do these work together or are they stand alone programs that do the same thing. I printed out the 170 page get started and 560 page operation manual for Cubase LE, if this is the "lite version" I can't imagine how overwhelming the full version must be. I have a Yamaha PSR292 keyboard and a Behringer GMX 212 Modeling amp and a couple guitars. I just want to get started. I'm an old guy that used to use a Teac 4 track Reel to Reel back in the seventies,if anybody remembers those days.
What recording software is simple enough to get started with?
Is it neccessary to use Patchmix before using recording software?
Thanks,
Eric
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 04, 2006 10:58 pm Hey Eric, you must be about my age then. I used to own and run an old Teac, among many others from that era. By the time the 70's rolled around I was allready working on 2" machines though and trying to find a way to afford one rather then have to pay for studio time.
Anyway, yes as problematic as the patchmix is that is your control panel and link to the workings of the 0404. There are a couple people here who are very familiar with patchmix and can probably walk you through most of it.
As for Cubase LE, yep the bigger apps get even deeper. But don't get frustrated by that. Some of the bigger applications are much easier and user friendly then Cubase. I'm gonna get jumped on for that one. :-)
But Cakewalk who makes the app I use, Sonar 6 Producer Edition has many entry level applications that work very well and have an easy to use GUI that is quick to learn. And they as well have some of the best tutorial's built into the software and manual that walk you through step by step from start to finish.
There are several other bits of software out there as well that are pretty straight forward. They might not get as deep but they do the job very well.
What other software came with the 0404? You might be better off starting with one of those if there is another recording app in the bunch.
EricMember
Since: Oct 25, 2006
Dec 05, 2006 12:26 am I'm glad to hear some remembers reel to reel, I had a lot of fun looping, pulling tape through by hand or with a variable speed motor backwards,upsidedown or whatever it took to make interesting sounds.
I'm not a sound engineer or musician, it's a hobby for me. Digital recording at first look seems to make studio recording a piece of cake, but now I see the added flexability also requires much more knowledge and justifiably so. Anywho the software that came with this card:
1.Sonar LE
2.Cubase LE
3.Abletron Live Lite 4
4.Amplitude LE
5.discWelder Bronze
6.SFX Machine LT
I realize these are "LITE" versions, does this mean certain functions are disabled, or they simply don't "HAVE" as many functions. I really hate it when a trial version let's you go through a whole bunch of riggamaroll and when you get to the end it says "Sorry this version only allows you to do steps 1 through 599 if you want to do step 600 you must send money"
Thanks,
Eric
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Dec 05, 2006 01:01 pm The Cubase and Sonar LE editions should be opeartional to get you through the basics of recording. You'll find you'll grow out of them eventually and will upgrade. These are just to give you a taste. You'll probably have a lot of functions greyed out so you can't open them.
I'm not familiar with Sonar, but Cubase should be easy enough to get you going. It's all a learning curve. Everyone here seems to learn something new every day. Familiarity comes with experience. Just play a lot, and read as much as you can.
Patchmix is the interface between your soundcard and your app. It will usually load before you get to loading your app. anyway.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Dec 05, 2006 09:39 pm Reaper has been aging very well. Lots of features, but lots less complexity and bloat (no offense to major apps)
www.cockos.com/reaper/
It's a little download (under 2 meg) and offers full use, with no limitations, but with the idea that you register if you start using it fully. 40$ for the home user version. More for commercial use.
This was made (and is being made) by the guy that made winamp.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 05, 2006 09:45 pm I can't say for Cubase, but Sonar LE is a full fledged functioning recording application. You can do a recording from start to finish with it. And as far as I know they even include a good amount of DSP effects as well.
You might want to look into installing that one and giving it a shot. Use their help section and the tutorials, although I think the bundled version may not have a full tutorial install with it. If not just ask here. I've been using their products since the very first sequancer app for the Atari ST. Which gives me a bit of an advantage in that sense. But there are a good deal of people here using differant levels of their software and they are all knowledgable in how it works.
Having come for the tape background as well and cutting my teeth on cutting tape to edit. I can't even begin to tell you here how much time I have saved over the years of using digital audio. I was a holdout for almost a year before I made the jump and dumped my 2" machine and midi sync gear for a computer and an audio card and the first version of Cakewalk Audio. I haven't even flinched or looked back at all. I can do so much more now then I ever would have dreamed of doing in the analog world. And honestly, I am a huge synth head and went from a room full of hardware synth's to only two racks of gear now only one of which still holds hardware synth. My old analog synths are gone now replace by the wonderfull DSP synths of today. And I honestly have no regret's other then missing the smell of some of the old stuff when it got hot.
jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
Dec 06, 2006 05:19 pm A "must-have" for every E-MU owner, and should be included in the package is the SOS Patchmix Article, found at:
www.soundonsound.com/sos/...emupatchmix.htm
Geared mostly toward the 1820 & 1616 owner, it is nonetheless quite useful for you also, and a great big "YES", you do need to use Patchmix with the 0404. It is the software interface between the recording app and the hardware (not to mention, you the user...), and is what allows you to route audio to/from multiple locations.
I've had my 1820 for over 20 months now, owned another interface (that shall remain nameless since it was so bad...) for 2 1/2 years before that, and I'm *still* learning stuff about this digital stuff... lolol. I long for the days (sometimes...) where you just pressed "Record" and "Play", counted "1-2-3-4" and went... *BUT*, the increased flexibility, VST effects, VSTi soft-synths, etc., are just phenominal. I remember thinking the EchoPlex was an effect... It was a "toy", comparitively speaking. And *noisy*!!!
I use the Cubase LE with the "Lite" FX (I don't like SFX Machine at all...), and the only thing I don't use regularly for something (besides SFX machine, not used at all...), is Ableton Live Lite. I've even managed to do an audio DVD with discWelder Bronze...!!!... With my miniscule projects (my biggest one so far has been 18 trax - 14 originally recorded, 2 FX & 2 VSTi added later) with some reverbs, EQ, etc. for FX. I don't think I'll outgrow my setup for a while just yet... Now, if I get into this full-time in a few years, or if I somehow hit the wall, then maybe then I'll go for a full-blown app, and dump the "Lite" stuff...
One little side note about your Cubase LE and Sonar LE, dependant upon the version (and I'm bad with the numbers...), you might be limited to 8 inputs at any one time, but be able to use up to 48... (My Cubase LE is the original "old" one, that had no such limitation, but the Sonar LE always has.) I prefer the Cubase (less VST troubles...). Get into the "Tutorial" that is included on the EMU install CD (pdf file).
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 07, 2006 08:13 pm You might want to read up a bit before stating a products limitations. :-)
Sonar LE has never been limited to any less then 64 tracks of audio and 256 tracks of midi. And as far as audio inputs at one time there is not limit accept that of the audio interface. And it as well will work with DX, DXi, VST and VSTi. So you can grab a handfull of the free VST and DX effects and synth's out there and be set for a good long time with that free software.
