Dec 02, 2006 10:08 pm Which version of PT do you have. I know there are a couple Reason users here t hat might be able to help you out as far as patching it in goes.
dont hate me, pro tools midi question
Posted on Dec 02, 2006 09:39 pm
Aenima7988
Member Since: Apr 10, 2006
i know most people just use reason for midi in pro tools, but i can't really figure out reason. I have an adapted version, and i'm either too stupid to figure out how to make multiple tracks with different patches on the combunator, or they just don't let you on the adapted version. so if anyone has an idea of what i'm doing wrong when i start trying to add differnet patches and tracks, i'd appreciate the help.
i also can't figure out how to do midi in pro tools. obviously i can open up a midi track, but how to i record? i remember hearing something about having to create differnet tracks and linking them together in order to input midi. i don't have a keyboard, but if i did, would i be able to hit record and start playing? how do i do it without a keyboard? cause i know garage band lets you type the notes as it's playing, as if the computer keyboard were an actual keyboard controller. if it's a matter of actually drawing in the notes how do i do that?
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Dec 02, 2006 10:08 pm Which version of PT do you have. I know there are a couple Reason users here t hat might be able to help you out as far as patching it in goes.
Dec 04, 2006 03:44 pm i have pro tools LE 7. As for reason, i think it's adapted 3.0
Dec 04, 2006 05:29 pm MIDI is just binary code signals. 1's and O's.
There's no actual sounds carried there. I'm not familiar with the PT, but there should be the provision for somekind of Piano Roll midi screen. You can enter MIDI data - such as keyboard or drum parts - with a mouse - rather than a keyboard (synth type), but the data won't make any noises unless you have some kind of synth (which can be hardware or software) hooked up and assigned to the output of the MIDI track in PT? Clear as mud?
Simply put, an audio track that you would record vocals or guitars to in PT is basically a electronic version of 'tape'. It carries the actual audio sinal that was recorded onto it.
With MIDI you are only recording data - not sounds. You need some kind of hardware or software to play the notes dictated by the data.
BTW if you do use a mouse to enter your data, make sure you have plenty of time, and a comfortable seat. You could be there a while.
Dec 04, 2006 09:47 pm Did Reason Adapted come with that version of PT LE7? After doing a little searching around I'm finding some holes in the link between PT LE 7 which was released in 2005 and Reason 3.0 adapted. It looks as though there was a patche or upgrade to make adapted work with certain newer systems. So depending on your system you may have a problem there as well. Don't know for sure though.
But as stated above it is a simple matter of arming a track to record midi then locating the piano role or the step writing section of PT, if they even have one.
Dec 05, 2006 01:47 pm Well Reason definitely works with LE7, i've been using it to make the drum tracks. I know exactly what MIDI is, I've been using it for years. Just not with Reason or Pro Tools. I've heard in order to actually use midi in pro tools you need to create multiple tracks, and I think I heard the creation of the "Instrument" track in Pro Tools made that process less complicated. But I don't know the old process (when there were just audio, aux, master and midi tracks) or the new process. My other question was on how to use the Combunator within Reason. I can make one midi track with whatever patch I want, but then I can't make another track with a different patch. I was asking if there's a process I'm missing, or the ability to do multiple midi tracks is left out of Reason Adapted.
Dec 05, 2006 02:36 pm I don't know about Reason Adapted per se, and unfortunately i don't know what the combunator is... but if you want to add midi tracks to Reason, under Create, select an instrument (NNXT sampler, or one of the synths for instance) and it will create an instance of that instrument and a new track for it. If you haven't done it at first, you may need to make a mixer first, and then add the other instruments...
but like i said, i don't know how adapted is set up, but that's how you do it in reason.
Dec 05, 2006 07:08 pm well from what i understand, which is little, in reason, the main rack is the combunator. unless i'm botching the word. what other synths are there? the racks i can think of off hand are dr rex, redrum, the matrix, and of course the mixer. the only one i know how to use is redrum. i can get the combunator working, but like i said, only for one track. is it possible the adapted version only allows one track per rack/module?
Dec 05, 2006 10:13 pm Ah yes, now its making sense.
coolo, I don't think he can ReWire like you and I do in PT. He has to manually create a set of midi/audio tracks to get the thing to work in PT.
Aenima, do you have to insert Reason into a track in PT LE?
You might be looking at having to open a different instance of Reason for each track. Not sure on that though either as I am not real familiar with Reason Adapted either.
Dec 06, 2006 12:36 pm I don't have PT, so i don't know how rewiring into there works per se, but when i've rewired reason to P5, you only get the master out of Reason in one track of P5, but you can have as many tracks as you want in reason open.
I'll try and see what this combunator thing is in the next couple days and get back to you...
the synths are maelstrom and absynth, there's also the NNXT and NN19 samplers, the redrum and the dr. rex. Connect these to the software mixer (in reason) and connect the mixer to the main rack piece at the top of every new project (don't remember what this is called - maybe that's the combunator). Create the mixer and any synths/samplers under the Create dropdown menu (a couple to the right of File, Edit...)
Dec 06, 2006 12:46 pm nah, the combinator lets you 'combine' several synth modules (nnxt, redrum, malstrum, subtractor, etc.) so they play as one instrument...it's a handy tool.
Dec 07, 2006 09:19 pm coolo, P5 is doing an update to allow use of all outputs of ReWired instruments. I cant wait, I'm wetting myself thinking about it. Although if you have VSTi or DXi synth's with Multiple outputs it will use them already.
Dec 08, 2006 12:38 pm Hmmm, i don't think i fully understand how rewire works, but that SOUNDS cool noize!
Dec 08, 2006 09:02 pm i rewire in pro tools, but within reason itself i can't get two different patches going at the same time.
Dec 08, 2006 09:13 pm can you create multiple rack instruments?
Dec 08, 2006 11:35 pm It is coolo, it is. Saves some CPU cycles as well as allowing to do some really cool stuff with FX and what not. Sonar has been able to do it for awhile now and peep's were really griping that they wanted it in P5 as well. Now we are going to get it.
Dec 08, 2006 11:54 pm hmmm, maybe i should register my P5...
Dec 09, 2006 12:08 am Um, ya. That might be a good idea. They improved their registration tool now as well so it keeps track of everything including updates and the like. but ya, ya need to register it and make sure it is updated to current.
Dec 09, 2006 07:03 pm as in two redrums, two combunators, two dr rexs? no, i can't. or at least i don't know how.
Dec 11, 2006 02:16 am as in one NNXT and one redrum and one dr. rex all at once...
or even two redrums as you mentioned... it's all under the create drop down menu...
it may not be the most efficient method, but maybe you can open up multiple instances of reason and put each instance into a track of pro tools via rewire?
Dec 11, 2006 03:40 pm yeah, the trouble is getting the second redrum or the second combunator. i think it's just somethign that's limited in reason adapted
so nobody knows how to open, assign and record a midi track in pro tools? i don't know if there are midi patches in pro tools, but i know i have a bunch of patches that would normally be used in reason. but how do i set up the midi track in pro tools?
Dec 11, 2006 03:43 pm and there's no create drop down menu in reason. all i ahve is file, edit, option, window, contacts and help
there should be a create in there somewhere?
Dec 11, 2006 07:04 pm sorry, I don't use pro tools, so can't help you on that one.
The other part of it sounds like a limitation of reason adapted. Additionally, I'm using an older version of reason, but i've seen the newer version and it pretty much looks the same to me, so I'm assuming there is still the "Create" dropdown menu. On my version, it's about the third or fourth dropdown from the left.
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