File swapping in the legal crosshairs
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Dec 03, 2002 12:07 am with p2p a reality on the net, isn't it entirely possible that once these commercially developed file sharing programs and networks are run into the ground, that someone somewhere will start writing p2p sharing clients anonymously and freely distributing them around the net?? and also, at that point, would that justify the individual prosecution of downloaders by copyright owners?? and furthermore would individual prosecution be financially impossible or otherwise unlikely?? i'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on the future of file sharing. -j
Dec 03, 2002 12:37 pm Personally, if they have a way of stopping it without invading privacy, more power to them. I have no problem with it, that's their business, they have every right to protect it. Some of the stuff they are trying to pass is insane tho, like randomly snooping PC's via internet connection, whichis, essentially in my mind, hacking and a total invasion of privacy.
If they wish to continue fighting the Napsters of the world, or the file sharing companies that do not make sure everything out there is legal, let them I say.
However, I would suggest that these labels instead learn to embrace the internet and learn to use it rather than fight it, it's a loosing battle.
DanMember
Since: Nov 21, 2002
Dec 03, 2002 03:13 pm While CD sales have gone down due to p2p, less popular bands could gain popularity more easily on the net, and make money on concert ticket sales, but most people do not go to p2p to discover new artists though.
JakeMember
Since: Nov 30, 2002
Dec 03, 2002 05:21 pm CD sales may have taken a bit of a hit but I fear it's not nearly the hit represented by the big record campanies. I agree with the fact that bands who were never known will be heard for the first time and gain thier first national..no global audience.
Anything that scares the crap out of the record industry is a good thing now. Did you know that CD production costs a fraction of what vinyl records and even tapes cost but we still pay more for them? Does this make sense? It's time for real competition in music. Anyhow, why do artists that supposedly love music need to live in huge mansions? Why do they need to be treated like royalty? If I were world famous I'd just go to the store and movies like everyone else until people got bored of pointing. I'd pick my nose at traffic lights and let the people at bus stops take pictures. I don't want anyone to go broke but maybe if they weren't over charging 14 year olds for the latest release of the crap street boys this wouldn't have happened.....$24 dollars??!!??
I believe that P2P sharing cannot be stopped anymore than people copying each others albums at home can be stopped (God knows Disney is trying). The only things that can control it are unacceptable invasive moves that will likely piss people off to the point of boycott.
Point is, I love music, I will make music until the day I die. If someone has some money for me great, if not oh well.
If you love music, give something to it. Don't kill everything that's pure about music by being a selfish snob..."ask not what music can do for you, ask what you can do for music".
I'm just an opinionated bastard but there's mine.
Dec 03, 2002 10:46 pm opinions are just that, but i agree. and anyways i like the mangled JFK quote.
lately i've found myself listening to obscure and underground music that i dig up on the net, including some of the great stuff i hear right here on Home Recording Central. I like the idea of listening to good tunes that don't break the bank, not to mention I feel I've made more of a conscious choice in the music I'm listening to rather then having the media hand my options to me.
p2p sharing is definitly here to stay. i'd just hate to see the developers and users hurt in the process of it's acceptance into our daily life. with the combination of commecial entertainment media going digital and the increasing access to broadband net, the face of entertainment is changing right before our very eyes. it will be ugly at first, but sit back and enjoy the show. or better yet.. get involved!
Dec 04, 2002 04:56 am Essentially I feel the same way. I don't like the fact business and greed is killing art, but thatis nothing new. Ya know, beofre I started doing web design and development for a living I was volunteering to make this for someone or that for someone...just for the fun and art of it. But, when it became my primary source of income for me and my family I started looking at it differently and quite doing stuff for free (except for HRC of course:-).
My point is, music is the career, the primary source of income for these people, the artists, the record exec's, the people pressing the CD"s, the recording eningeers, etc. And besides the record exec's, they don't make as much money as a lot of peeps may think. For that reason I see their stance and their wanting to protect their livelihood.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Dec 07, 2002 05:05 pm yes...this is an interesting time to be involved in the music industry. I also feel that downloading copyrighted material is stealing... I also feel that stealing bread if you're hungry is wrong too :) we arn't supposed to live in a "take from the rich, give to the poor" culture because "taking" is wrong.
however, the industry is changing drastically and everyone will have to learn new skills and do things differently in order to survive.
Another example out side of music is NASA. It was a priority during the space race and in order to "be popular" it skipped some really key technology...like the spaceplane deveoped by the airforce as part of the X-15 Project. they spent all their energy building huge rockets that take 10,000 hours and 3 months to equip for launch when we could be useing a jet/rocket plane that requires 100 hours and 1 week to equip and launch. Only now are they begining to realize the mistake but just imagine NASA laying off 90% of it's scientists and the ripple effect that would have in the scientific community.
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