Line 6 PODxt vs. Tone Port

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brett@turnercompanies.com
Member Since: Sep 09, 2004

Does the Line 6 Tone Port Guitar amp models, effects, etc. contain everything that the PODxt offers? In other words, can the Tone Port do everything that the PODxt does in terms of the Guitar portion or only "SOME" of what the PODxt offers? Reason why I ask, is I just purchased the Tone Port this weekend (haven't had a chance to hook it all up yet), and do I even need my PODxt anymore? Or does the PODxt offer amp models and effects, etc. that the Tone Port doesn't have?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 24, 2006 01:32 pm

I'm not positive about if TonePort has ALL the models that the PODxt does but I do know the ones that TonePort does have are from the PODxt. PODxt shines in it's further flexability, signal routing options and the like. The POD also is full operable without a software interface.

if you only use basic signal routing and don't use your POD live and don't drag it around outside your studio, you may not need it anymore. Honestly, I think I could get by with just a TonePort now that I don't gig anymore and such.

brett@turnercompanies.com
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Since: Sep 09, 2004


Apr 24, 2006 01:44 pm

Yeah, I don't gig anymore myself. Studio stuff only. It's weird that the PODxt was more expensive that the Tone Port...if the Tone Port does contain ALL the models and effects that the PODxt has, then what a deal...you get bass and vocal models on top of the guitar stuff! I won't let go of my PODxt just yet. If only the Tone Port came out before I bought the xt...the frustrations of quickly developing technology. You buy it one day, then they come up with something else that does more at a fraction of the price. Daggummit!

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 24, 2006 01:48 pm

Well, yes, part of it is decreased development time, as the TonePort already had it's models made, but, as far as overall product price, don't forget everything that the POD...a hardware interface as well as software, mucho more routing options, a much more solid, and conveneint housing (I'll take rack of desktop any day of the week) and things like that.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Apr 24, 2006 10:38 pm

Well, it looks to me that the Line 6 Toneport contains pretty much everything the PODxt does in standard format and you can add the model packs to total out your amp models to 72. I own both, a fully loaded POD xt with all the model packs and stomp boxes and the Toneport UX-2. Honestly, I havent turned on the POD in well over a month. Mainly because of the bass amp models and the mic pre amp models as well in the Toneport. The ediiting is virtually the same in both and I am thinking of adding the model packs to the TOneport as well, since I do use them in the PODxt and am sure I would in the Toneport as well.

And lastly, yes you can swap the patches you have created in your POD xt right into the Toneport. That was one of the first things I tried.

Noize

brett@turnercompanies.com
Member
Since: Sep 09, 2004


Apr 26, 2006 01:49 pm

Thanks, Noize.
Well, it looks like the PODxt will be going back in the box for a while once I get the TonePort all hooked up...which is fine. One of the disadvantages of quickly improving technology. Appreciate your input.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Apr 28, 2006 08:27 pm

I have them both out. It is still nice to be able to use the xt, though I do have it hooked up with an FBV so I get more use out of it that way. But indeed, the Toneport is getting the most use at the moment.

Glad your liking it as well.

Noize

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Since: Jan 24, 2006


May 09, 2006 06:25 pm

Late to the table here but I now own both the Toneport and XTL

The toneport does NOT have everything the XT has as far as guitar amps, but it does have vocal preamps (good for keys) and bass amps. It's missing many amps, and many effects. You can upgrade it however (for money) I haven't yet been able to figure out how to download patches for it.

I'm keeping my XTL for it's Variax connection and the fact that I don't need to turn the PC on the use it plus it's pedal. In my opinion, and I have no explanation for this, the same patch sounds better coming out of the XT than out of the Toneport. You can also run the XT into the toneport and add a preamp or even a second delay or something. very cool.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 09, 2006 09:41 pm

tony, I was gonna link you to the page for donwloading patches, but their working on the site right now. I'll try and get it here tommorrow. It is part of the Line 6 site, youcan actually link to it from the Line 6 editor and I think from Gearbox as well with the Toneport.

AS for the amp models, the UX-2 is only missing some of the odder ones. It has most of the major ones.

But I can attest for the $99.00 I spent on the model pack's for my XT I will probably go the same route for the UX-2 as well. I use a few of the amp models from that as well as some of FX processors that come with it.

Member
Since: Jan 24, 2006


May 10, 2006 01:13 pm

Hey Noize they've changed how custom tone works I think, you can only access it from Line 6 Edit now, however there is a kind of back door.

www.line6.com/customtone/library/

I disagree on the amps. The latest 3.0 update added the Orange and Brit 18 amps which are superb and not available for toneport without the addon pack (it annoys me to have to pay for that).

It only has 16 amps where as the XTL has 32 in the bass package.

Also the effects are really lacking in the Toneport, particuarly the Stereo Delay.

Don't get me wrong I love the Toneport, but I'm keeping my XTL as well and will still use it primarily for guitar. Recording with double amps is cool in itself 8-)


Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 10, 2006 08:44 pm

Ya, I posted you can get to it from the editer But I couldnt get into the link last night to post the address. I have always used that back door. I dont seem to ever be in the mood to search for tones when I 'm actually sitting with the guitar.

I checked and you are correct about the amp models only being 16 in the Toneport though. I was counting the total number not just the guitar models. I agree as well, I'm not big on having to pay extra but I do use them so I can justify it here.

I searched and could not find how they named the Orange model. I havent had time to mess around since that last update though either.

And though I do love the UX-2 as well, I wont be selling my POD xt any time in the near future either. Mostly as I cant use the FBV with the Toneport.

How are you trying to use the stereo delay in the Toneport? I didnt find it to be too bad.


Member
Since: Jan 24, 2006


May 10, 2006 11:14 pm

The orange model is called Citrus I think.

There is no stereo delay in my toneport ?? It's on the POD and I use it all the time, mostly with a very short delay, minimal feedback etc and all the other knobs (except mix) turned to zero. It creates a really nice full sound.

If you've ever read that story on how The Edge does his delay's (it's a great read) he frequently uses two delays so being able to try with the one from the pod added to the Toneport one is very cool (though useless to my mediocre songwriting)

Since the latest update 3 weeks or so ago, I have not used any amp other than the new Brit one, except for 10 minutes reamping with the Orange.

Tony

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 11, 2006 07:45 pm

Ya, I found it after I posted. Not sure if I am turned on by the Orange yet, but I will give it a chance and some time. I agree on the new Brit model though, that one caught my attention right off. I usually just turn off all FX and run them completely dry to see how they sound.

I owned a couple Orange amps late 70's early 80's models. I didnt care for the mids on the emulation of it, but maybe I just didnt give it enough time.

As for the delay, I do like the analog delay and the tube echo in the Tonport. But again, I must agree the stereo delay in the XT is a bit more refined. I'm kind of used to doing my delay in Sonar a lot of time as I dont always record with one on. And often decide later to add one.

I think I may just pony up and add the model packs for the Toneport and see what I can twist out of it. Hopefully they will work out some great updates as they have done with the XT.

Member
Since: Jan 24, 2006


May 12, 2006 09:33 pm

If I was to spend money on model packs I'm not sure that I'd do it for the toneport. The portability, easy on/off, lack of dependence on a PC make the XT(L) a more comfortable option for me. I don't play live it just makes me feel more secure somehow.

Having to pay for stuff on toneport that I already have on the XTL is something of a pain though.

Tony

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 12, 2006 11:05 pm

Yep, I am wrestling with that idea as I do have the XT fully loaded allready and dont know if I want to load the UX-2 as well. But I am a gear hore deep down so odds are I'll do it just to see. I'm sure I would use them as well. But indeed it is hard to do it since I allready have them in the PODxt.

I have to say though that I have gotten a lot of use out of the model packs. Although I still use the Soldano and the Rectifier the most. But some of the added FX are over the top, which is right up my alley for twisting sounds.

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