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Kaos is only a form of insanity
Member Since: Feb 03, 2005

So I have invested in the following recently.

ESP1010 sound card
UB2442FX mixer
Truth B2031A moitors
Mics, leads, adapters etc....

Now I'm looking for other outboard gear to help with the recording process. i was looking at the 4channel headphone amp/splitter, 4 channel DI box and a decent rack tuner (to help our hopeless guitarist) This would add greater flexibilty o the recording process would it not, the DI bow that is. the others are just helpful items. Also I have 2 outboard compressors that will fit in.

Any suggestions would be greatfull recieved

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Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 26, 2006 06:57 pm

Yep, the DI is a nice addition. If the 4 channel is really needed, otherwise you can get by with a 1 or 2 channel. Multi headphone amps are really nice to have. I rarely used mine and sold it, but I do now use a seperate output control along side my control room output from my mixing desk so I have 5 headphone outs anyway. The compressors would have been my next selection but you have those covered. If your compressors dont have it built in a dedicated noise gate is a nice addition if you are in that kind ov environment.

Kaos is only a form of insanity
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Since: Feb 03, 2005

Mar 27, 2006 04:25 am

Thanks Noise. I was looking at the 4 channel Behringer DI box, But wasn't sure if I should go say for a 2 channel but better quality. (I do like behringer as I have the 2442 desk and B2031A monitors)

I take your point on the Gates, this was something i m looking into. One of the compressors has a gate on it, but doesn't seem that good, there isn't enough control on it.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 27, 2006 06:58 pm

Oh ya, I am loaded with Behringer gear here. I have been using their desks for a long time and had no problems. I use their patch bays and several pieces of outboard gear. I have no problem recomending their stuff at all. Very good gear for the price.

The gates are not an absolute need, but can come in handy if youare recording in a hi gain or just noisey place. And they can be touchy as well. Some are definately better then others.

Kaos is only a form of insanity
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Since: Feb 03, 2005

Mar 28, 2006 04:19 am

Any opinions on the behringer gates. I see a 4 channel over here for a reasonable price. and the patch bay is already ordered PX2000.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 28, 2006 10:08 pm

I use the Composer Pro and the gate on it is very good. Not too touchy but not as good as my old 8 channel Rocktron Hush.

Are you looking at the XR4400? That one is a bit quicker then what is in my Composer Pro. It has good adjustablility to avoid nipping off quick transients, which is a good thing. And for the money, You probably cant beat it.

Kaos is only a form of insanity
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Since: Feb 03, 2005

Mar 29, 2006 10:49 am

Yeah that's the one. i did look at the info on it and it seems ideal.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Mar 29, 2006 10:54 am

I find gates silly for NR purposes personally, once the gate is open all the sound comes in anyway... so closing that gate just makes an unrealistic sound unless tweaked to rediculous leaves...that said, using those rediulcas levels you can, at time gets some kinda cool effects...

The few times I have used gates effectively were really only on drums that have some many mics scattered around the kit...it helps in separation, but since I haven't recorded a live drum kit in years...well, you know...

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002

Mar 29, 2006 11:58 am

to piggy back on dB's post i only use gating to get the masive effects. They can be cool as hell but undesirable at times as well. with most effects use in moderation.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 29, 2006 08:53 pm

If miccing a live guitar cabinet they get rid of the pesky buzz most amps emit. And using them on a vocal mic can get rid of some of the breath effect an untrained vocalist may emmit.

But as I stated earlier, it is not a must have item by any means.

Kaos is only a form of insanity
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Since: Feb 03, 2005

Mar 30, 2006 02:41 am

As I am a drummer and I like to try and mic up the pieces individually I thought that this would be a fairly good idea to aid wth the seperation.

I also give reference to the vocal situation as I am trying to organise the studio so local bands can record a basic demo (and give me valuable experience on the recording side) most of these are small groups who are relatiely inexperienced.


Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 30, 2006 10:20 pm

I have to chuckle as I was just reading in Tape Op magazine. Larry Crane who is the editer and what have you was just mentioning how important a good Noise reduction box is for just those silly purposes as stated above. Cheaper equipment usually emits some noise and he prefers to not have to edit it out later. But he does make the statement we all agree on. They are a pain in the rear to set properly. I had to laugh when I read that, and it made me come back here to say so.

Kaos is only a form of insanity
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Since: Feb 03, 2005

Mar 31, 2006 02:50 am

Thank you for the insight. I'm just now confuddled whether or not to get them.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 31, 2006 10:54 pm

I guess honestly, I would start without it. You can alwasy run a noise supressor pluggin on a track if it is really bad. It will cut the crap out during the quiet parts for you.

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Since: Dec 23, 2003

Apr 04, 2006 09:52 pm

A gate is just another tool in the toolbox. I rarely use them, but they can be handy to have if you need it. We were recording a song with a lot of breaks in it. I used a gate to quiet a buzzing guitar amp. It worked great and the mix turned out clean. But, I record on analog. So for me to fix it I would have had to mark the tape with a grease pencil and erase each part. I was REALLY glad I had a gate then. Fixing it in digital is cake.

You can do other things with them too. You can do stuff like run the key in on the snare and have white noise on the gate. Then every time the snare hits the gate opens and feeds white noise into the mix anlong with the snare. You know... stuff like that.

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