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Ace in the whole
Member Since: Nov 24, 2004

Noize, or Db (or whoever elses might want to chime in) what would be the differences between me getting the Toneport UX2 or getting a Delta 44 or Audiophile or even a firewire interface, to upgrade from my Audigy, considering best case scenario regarding the specs of my studio listed in the aforementioned thread "not enough something"?

(I don't know why I write this way)

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Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
Since: May 11, 2002

Mar 22, 2006 07:31 pm

choice of interface really depends on a lot.

though each interface is essentially:
inputs->preamp->AD converter->DSP->interface to computer->DSP->DA converter->amp->outups

I can't think of any interfaces that actually have an amp for anything but headphones... but you get the idea...

you may need RCA inputs... or XLR... plus the number of inputs... some devices do not produce MIDI sounds like the audigy would... some devices are 96khz and others are 192khz or more... plus there is the S/N ratio and frequency response to consiter.

I would suggest writing down all you need, compaire specs like signal to noise ration, distortion, max SPL, etc ...understand what they mean and why they might not mean anything, ... eventually the goal is to eliminate the need to choose as the single product that best fits your needs will reveal itself :) ...then it's a matter of saving money to buy it. :)

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Ace in the whole
Since: Nov 24, 2004

Mar 22, 2006 07:35 pm

great feedback.. thanks zek!

the problem is that I don't really know what I need.

I know my SB is choking on 20 tracks and I know I need something that doesn't. I have to upgrade to somthing beefy.

here is my set up

P4 3.2GHz Processor
Intel 925 chipset
800MHz FSB
2GB Dual Channel DDR RAM
80GB System SATA
200GB Media SATA
SB Audigy 2 Platinum
Win 2000 Pro
FL Studio 6 PE
Acid 4.0
Reason 3
Adobe Audition
Cubase SE/SX3

I will be doing major pre-production with a need to have up to 64 tracks of audio or midi (with plenty of VSTi's) with out a problem. However, I will only ever be recording vocals, acoustic guitar and possibly djembe live, here in my rinky dink.

I am going to be taking all the tracks to a much much better and more professionally equipped studio to record live instruments and do other overdubs, mixing etc.

Then taking to a mastering house at the final stage.

The toneport sounds like the right move from a souncard standpoint, and the modeling sound more than exciting, but do I need to buy their gear to use it? (Variax Electric?)

Can I use my acoustic and still get the modeled sounds? Will it meet all my interface needs as listed above? Does it matter what kind of mic I have?

I have to get something soon, i just want to be sure that I am not buying waay more then I need or can practically use.

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 24, 2006 12:11 am

Marcus, any gear can be plugged into the Line 6 stuff. You dont need to have a variax to get the tones out of the thing. You can plug an electro acoustic into it. And electric guitar or bass or microphones. There are amp models set up for pretty much all of the above. The microphone pre amp models were amazing to me. I used them for my acoustic as well and it sounded great.

Any mic will work splendid with the unit. I tried it with several dynamics as well as a several condensors.

I have a huge project I will try playback of with the UX-2 and I'll let ya know tommorrow how it worked. I believe it was 40 some tracks of Audio.

Ace in the whole
Since: Nov 24, 2004

Mar 24, 2006 05:28 pm

sweet.. I'm thinking this is gonna be what I will get soon.

looking forward to hearing how the project went.

Since: Mar 28, 2006

Mar 28, 2006 12:15 pm

I find that with PC's, you'll be far more advantaged to upgrade the processor/RAM before worrying about your soundcard.

That said, I've got a Delta 44 that hasn't failed me yet.

I'm tempted to upgrade to something with more inputs and some basic mic pre's though because I'm sick of ghetto rigging my tascam 428 as a Direct Box/Mic Pre.

Any one have any suggestions?

Kaos is only a form of insanity
Since: Feb 03, 2005

Mar 28, 2006 12:38 pm

I find that with PC's, you'll be far more advantaged to upgrade the processor/RAM before worrying about your soundcard

A dedicated purpose designed music making sound card will provide greater quality recordings than just upgrading a processor. Teh processor cannot capture quality sounds.

Since: Apr 03, 2002

Mar 28, 2006 12:41 pm

Yeah, I gotta stand in support of Kaos on that one...processor and RAM help speed up the PC and allow you to record more tracks but it does nother to supply better A/D convertors or capture the sound better and with less latency.

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
Since: May 11, 2002

Mar 28, 2006 01:53 pm

... plus with many of the better cards having onboard DSP processing a lot of CPU load is reduced in processing audio..

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 28, 2006 10:16 pm

Yep, Marcus has excellant specs on his PC allready. So that isnt really the choking point of his mixes.

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