New setup, problems with hat/snare
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Posted on Oct 18, 2005 08:26 pm
AndyBell
Member Since: Aug 17, 2005
Alright, so i ended up routing my entire board differently. I'm running a behringer sl2442fx pro. i have my track set up as follows:
1-kick (panned hard L, sent to main L)
2-snare top (panned hard R, sent to main R)
3-snare bottom (panned hard L, sent to sub 1-2)
4-high tom (panned hard R, sent to sub 1-2)
5-low tom (panned hard L, sent to sub 3-4)
6-hats (panned hard R, sent to sub 3-4)
7-left cym (dir out to interface)
8-right cym (dir out to interface)
on sub one i have left pressed down
on sub two i have right pressed down
on sub three i have left pressed down
on sub four i have right pressed down
on my snare track, i hear blaring hi hats.
it is NOT the mic placement, it seems as if the hats are going into my snare mix too, but they aren't being sent to my mains, any ideas?
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Oct 18, 2005 08:31 pm yeah, stop miking your hats and just get it from the snare bleedthru.
Oct 18, 2005 10:09 pm but my snare track is just blaring hats and like zero snare
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Oct 18, 2005 10:29 pm did you flip the phase of 1 of the 2 snare mics?
Oct 19, 2005 01:55 am One time I had this problem. It turned out that I had actually overloaded my preamp. The LED on that particular preamp wasn't fast enough to detect the snare clipping so I had no idea at the time. When I sat down to mix, I had trouble. Of course, I'm a lot more picky about my tracks now.
Brandon
Oct 19, 2005 01:57 am Wait a minute? Did I read that you were panning the snare top to one side and the snare bottom to the other??
If you are being creative, go for it. This tactic would probably sound terrible when compared to conventional drums.
Brandon
Oct 19, 2005 02:40 am erm, hes sending the tracks from mono channels to stereo busses. To get each channel coming out of its own bus, you've got to pan the tracks left and right accordingly.
: )
I had this problem with a soundtracs mega's console I was working on. Turns out the console was automatically sending tracks to some busses or something.... I don't really know, but we ended up with our acoustic guitar and bass in the same track. eek.
Oct 19, 2005 04:34 pm thanks for explaining colonel. i think it may be a combonation of the threshold and gate on my compressor so it's only really registering the loud hats.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Oct 19, 2005 04:59 pm So the hi-hats are coming thru louder on your snare mic than your snare is, and you don't think that mic placement is the problem? Im certainly no expert on drum micing, but it sounds like part of the problem is most certainly mic placement.
If the hats are opening the gate but the snare isn't, wouldn't that suggest to you that you need to find a spot/position for the top snare mic that attenuates the hats? Like for a cardioid pickup pattern, make sure that the rear of the mic is pointed towards the hats.
And also make sure you flip the phase of 1 of the 2 snare mics since you're using 2 mics that are facing each other. Otherwise, phase cancellation will attenuate any sound that both mics pick up, leaving only sounds that only 1 mic or the other is picking up...like the hi-hats.
I'm probably not telling you anything that you dont already know tho.
Oct 19, 2005 06:41 pm hehe, what mic are you using?