need some drum tracks
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Posted on Oct 16, 2005 03:54 pm
wontdieinPA
Member Since: Apr 27, 2002
hey fellas...just got my internet connection back...its been a while..and after all this time, i still only have one question for ya'll...say for instance i want to make some beats and whatnot for use in Nuendo...how can i go about doing something like this? like, Fruity Loops? i have it and i tried to use it within Nuendo and i guess you cant, you have to make the beats in FL then export them into the program, i was kinda hoping for a program that i can open WITHIN Nuendo and then tweak to my hearts desire...etc..etc...any ideas??
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sticadokid*sticado: short and LOUD!*Member
Since: Feb 25, 2005
Oct 16, 2005 04:05 pm the only ways i can think of is 2 ways... the midi stuff like fruity loops or recording some real drums.
im not sure how a drum map works or what exactly what it does... i havent really even started to experiment with it. ive got my own trusty kit to my right :)
Oct 16, 2005 04:20 pm Surely nuendo has some MIDI capabilities and VST support? I've heard its like Quote:
Cubase on Steriods
Cubase has a built in drum synth, so you can write your MIDI files and then insert it in the VST instruments slot. Lm-7 I think its called. Once you've inserted your VST, you need to assign the output of your MIDI track to your VST plug in.
Thats how I do it in cubase anyways....
Oct 17, 2005 02:24 pm yah...i understand that concept...but heres the part i dont understand...where exactly is the part in Nuendo where i can write the drum tracks? like, where i can assign different drums to different beats/bars in the window? i cant think of the word for it...
Oct 17, 2005 02:26 pm Can't say for sure, but if it's like most other apps, you need to assign a drum machine VSTi to a MIDI track, open the piano which has to have a button there somewhere, and sequence in there.
Oct 17, 2005 06:37 pm You'll need to find a neundo drum map of some sort. This will tell you what keys represent what drums if thats what you mean.
Oct 18, 2005 05:03 pm im seriously going nuts right now...please dear lord someone help me...i opened a new project...added a MIDI track...then tried to open this feature in Nuendo called "Open Drum Editor" under the MIDI section...and its grayed out and wont open...dear god someone tell me why...im gonna flip in like 3 seconds...im clicking on everything...i was gonna try to use the LM-7 drum machine within Nuendo as the MIDI "OUT", while using this DRUM EDITOR as the MIDI "IN", makes sense right? well it wont work!!!!
Oct 18, 2005 05:24 pm Take the 'pencil' tool and draw in a couple of bars of MIDI data in your MIDI track. Then double click on the data. A window with the MIDI editor or whatever should pop up. Each key represents a different drum cymbal etc.
You shouldn't need to assign a MIDI in, just an out (LM-7). And make sure your transmitting on all channels, and that there is an audio output assigned from the MIDI track.
Oct 19, 2005 01:03 pm yah...that makes sense...i just couldnt figure out how to get the damn editor to open...it was there...but grayed out...i swear, sometimes i think im going nuts...
colonel sanders...how have you become so knowledgeable? books? articles? i mean, i read alot and MIDI is still new to me...but you seem to know alot about everything...
Oct 19, 2005 01:05 pm The kid never leaves the house...
wontdieinPA, is this a turning point for you? I remember you as at one point being a hardcore, all analog, no machinery kind of person...or am I mistaking you with somebody else?
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Oct 19, 2005 03:01 pm I've had fruity running as a VSTi within n-track. Seemed to be pretty straightforward (haven't done it in a while).
Insert VST instrument, and there it was. Go into FL and start punching buttons (sequencing). There was a few glitches, but the whole process worked quite well. Much faster than the back and forth, sequencing in FL, export, import in Ntrack, back to FL to change stuff, etc.
Doesn't Nuendo allow VSTi, I would think it would.
Oct 19, 2005 04:00 pm oh yah...thatd be me...but my god...i just figured this MIDI stuff out...ive been making beats and bass lines and synth lines all afternoon...this is nuts...if i didnt have work i think id have a whole cd made before midnight...this stuff is incredible...I LOVE IT...
Oct 19, 2005 04:02 pm welcome to the dark side.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Oct 19, 2005 04:12 pm now you can watch your CPU usage go way up, having all those VSTi and softsynths running at one time =).
sticadokid*sticado: short and LOUD!*Member
Since: Feb 25, 2005
Oct 19, 2005 06:11 pm goodies
Oct 19, 2005 06:34 pm Quote:
The kid never leaves the house...
If by house you mean HRC then you would be correct.
If by house you mean house, you would also be correct. The only time I got out of the house back in chch was to mix or setup a live gig.
I have a small library full of books and magazines that I read non stop, I ask heaps of questions as well. Also I'm studying recording arts at SAE new zealand, although I must say I've learnt a fair amount more from HRC than I have learnt in the course.... I reckon your reach a point where everything just starts to click.... Oh, and do a lot of practical work!
My pride and joy relating to MIDI knowledge was when I was in a professional studio in chch. They had this MIDI problem that they couldn't figure out and I was busy keeping my mouth shut and cleaning up as an assistant engineer. So half an hour goes by and they have come to accept that its not going to work very well and then an idea hit me. I was like "What if you did this?" and re-patched the MIDI system. Turned out it worked perfectly, but more importantly, everyone was so happy that they let me make the coffee. yay!
Oct 20, 2005 12:08 pm now...for my next venture...does anyone know the best way to sync up natural drum tracks with some MIDI drum tracks? for instance, if i had a little midi intro and wanted to have some actual drum tracks in there with it...would the drummer just record his tracks to the same the Metronome Temp as the MIDI?
or say if the drum tracks over a chorus needed a little hi-hat groove over it that is made with some MIDI programming, assuming the drummer followed a metronome track inside Nuendo...would this be easy to do? has anyone ever tried it?
Oct 20, 2005 12:56 pm yep, as long as your tempo map is set in Nuendo and everyone is playin' to the same click, you'll be good to go...and if ya want to get even sicker, you can slice up your natural drum tracks and assign them to notes on the keyboard in a sampler....
Oct 20, 2005 02:09 pm wow...you guys just wait till our EP is finished...its gonna blow minds...you just wait...mark my words...it will be a work of art...
and dont worry, there will be a huge thanks to HRC in the insert...even if i have to thank each and every one of you by name....
Oct 20, 2005 02:10 pm Just get the capitalization right, it's "dB" not "db" or DB" or "Db"
can't wait to hear it.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 20, 2005 09:20 pm I will second the Welcome to the Dark Side comment.
Midi is a great tool once you get the hang of it.
Oct 20, 2005 10:37 pm dont worry dB...ill make sure to get it all right...we just got together tonight...with an acoustic guitar, keys/synth, and bass...wrote some beats and MIDI lines to compliment our stuff...it sounds very awesome...i cant wait to do this...we are going to start recording sometime next week...we've been waiting on the beats...we got those and alot more thanks to this whole MIDI thing...
