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Faze 2 Studios
Member Since: Aug 15, 2005

ok, Im just a kid from Califonria, and after dabbling around with different programs (Adobe Adition, garageband, ect.) I've really found a love in recording/producing tracks. ive been doing a little bit of research so far about pro-tools and was wondering what you guys thought about the conclusion I've come to. Keep in mind that I know very little of what I'm talking about, all I do know is that I want to get deeper into this world. I was thinking about getting the Delta 66 PCI interface and Pro-Tools M-Powered Software. What I need is the ability to record multiple tracks at the same time (jam sessions) and I Know 6 inputs would suffice ( 2 guitars and a bass)
does all this sound good?
also what are the requiments for the computer? besides ram and processor speed what else do I need?
I want to make sure that if I go out and by the delta 66 and the software that everythign will work smoothly. I dont want to go out and by things, and have them not be able to do what I want them too...
I don't understand much of the lingo.

I realize I may be asking a very stupid question, or asking a question in the wrong place, if I am in the wroong palce please dirrect me to the right place.

thank you for your time
-Ian

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Melodic Master Mind
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Since: Apr 19, 2004

Aug 16, 2005 12:06 am

welcome to HRC meltdown!....well first of all it wasn't nessesary to post the same thing twice only confuses the situation u know.......ok yuh choice in sound card is good and i would say software too but did u ever look up cubase sx 3?....and for the pc, well if u got a 3ghz and 1gb of ram and a good hard drive u good to go......a mixer will go good in the package...studio monitors (audio)....and like a 17 inch monitor (or higher) at 1152 x 864 resolution or higher....and mics for micing the guitar amps shure sm57....or if u recording them direct u could get like those lil mic preamps like the Behringer Mic100, it also acts as a DI box for electric guitars and thing....or a Line6 PODxt Amp Modeler or something so.....

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002

Aug 16, 2005 06:18 am

The Delta 66 does have 6 inputs, but 4 are analog and two are digital, while can't be sure, it's very likely that isn't what you are going for. A better choice might be the Delta 1010LT. I won't even touch the software issue at this point...if you talk to 10 different people you'll get 10 different recommendations. M-Powered ProTools wouldn't be my choice, but it'd work just fine...not sure if it's compatible with the 1010LT though...

Also, two guitars and a bass adds up to 3 inputs...so that is a bit confusing.

For other questions, please refer to the FAQ www.homerecordingconnection.com/reference.php

Welcome to HRC, after reading the FAQ, please post any additional questions.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002

Aug 16, 2005 07:03 am

Actually, I will say something about software...from what I have read, ProTools M-Powered does not have DirectX or VST plugin support (for third party add-on effects and softsynths and such) and is limited to 32 audio tracks (as I recall). In the interest of getting you up and running, and with something that could keep you happy for a long time for close to the same money (or less), perhaps consider something like Cakewalk Sonar Home Studio service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear , Mackie Tracktion service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear (great for beginnger and powerful), MultitrackStudio www.multitrackstudio.com or others.

Any need for MIDI? Do you have any mixer, microphones, amps, preamps or the like? Real drums or are you going to sequence drums on the PC?

I currently have copies of Tracktion v2 and Cakewalk Sonar Home Studio v4 sitting on my desk to evaluate and review hopefully in the next few weeks I'll have those out, what I know about both already is impressive, the power for the price is awesome...MultitrackStudio, while not a maintream application, is a great value for the price...very powerful stuff.

Faze 2 Studios
Member
Since: Aug 15, 2005

Aug 16, 2005 04:01 pm

Well, I'm thinking about micing each guitar with 2 mic's (acoustic guitars) so that would be 4 right there correct? left channel, right channel?

Member
Since: Apr 27, 2002

Aug 16, 2005 10:27 pm

well...you'll need a mixer...and if you think you dont, then maybe sure, you dont NEED one, but you'll want one...believe me, i recommend the Behringer UB2442FX-PRO, and as far as the Delta 66 goes...good choice, i myself own a Delta 44 and Delta 1010lt, soi have a total of 12 input tracks, this is neccessary because i record drums sometimes with up to 9 mics, and sometimes i record the guitars and bass along with the drums if its a live recording, also, do you plan on recording any drums at all?

and ditch ProTools! Steinberg Cubase SX3 will give you more bang for the buck, and you better believe that...i use Steinberg Nuendo which awesome...dont let the name PROTOOLS make your desicision for you, i almost did, and boy am i glad i didnt, i mean, Universal uses Steinberg Nuendo and they mix sound for practically every movie ever done at Universal, if it works for them, why not for you?

heres a typical signal chain

mic > mic preamp > converter (in your case, the delta 66) > software application (in my case Steinberg Nuendo)

so youll need (as far as i deem necessary):

Mics - (1) Shure SM-57 and (2) Studio Projects B1's
Studio Monitors - i really like my Behringer Truth powered monitors
Compressor - I like my Behringer MDX-1400

cables, a pop-filter for recording vocals...etc...etc...

that would pretty much give you the capability to handle what you want to do...

p.s. the 2 Studio Projects B1's are for recording guitars with 2 mics, right and left, otherwise known as "stereo", you can also use those for vocals...and you can use the SM-57 for recording guitar amps and more dynamic instruments...

but i would really think about addressing the preamp issue...


Faze 2 Studios
Member
Since: Aug 15, 2005

Aug 16, 2005 11:03 pm

what would a mixer do that the program can't?

edit0r
Member
Since: Aug 17, 2004

Aug 17, 2005 12:30 am

DW melt down, i quite like protools. But cubase is good too.

I wish i bought pro tools in the first place really, not becuase its any better than anything elses (cause its not) but because most 'pro' studios that I've been to have pro tools. Just think, if you got a chance, wouldnt you love to pop in your pro tools session and start mixing with a SSL 9000?

Feature wise though, cubase is fantastic, and has a great sounding engine. But the plug ins have a bit to be desired.

If your going to get a M audio delta card, you'll need a mixer to act as a preamp to your microphones. If your using condensors, they need phantom power supplied to them. Also you need to raise the mic level up to Line level.

If you arent looking at a mixer (believe me, you'll own one some day!) you should maybe look at the "Presonus Firepod" or "Aardvark Q10"(bout 300$ these days! you get 8 inputs, all with preamps!). These sound cards include built in pre amps, so no mixer needed.

Cheers

C_S

Faze 2 Studios
Member
Since: Aug 15, 2005

Aug 17, 2005 12:56 am

what does the pre amp do? (sorry stupid questions

Ultra Magnus
Member
Since: Nov 13, 2004

Aug 17, 2005 03:43 am

Preamps amplify mic signals.

Member
Since: Apr 27, 2002

Aug 17, 2005 09:40 am

to clear things up for you, if you record in Cubase, you could also mix your tracks in the studios with ProTools, you would just have to change some file formats and whatnot...thats all

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