Jul 18, 2005 05:51 pm Thats what we are here for, welcome to HRC.
Let's start simple, what do you have now (mics, mixer, amps, speakers, etc)? What kind of computer do you have?
Want to Build a Nice Home Studio
Posted on Jul 18, 2005 05:49 pm
taprootlp86
Member Since: Jul 18, 2005
I'm interested in talking with someone knowledgeable on Home Recording. I have recorded some with a digital 8 track, but am interested in building a digital studio in my home to record rock/metal music. I know basic things, but I want to talk to someone who can help me know EVERYTHING I need...from the programs to the wires. If you can help me, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Jul 18, 2005 05:51 pm Thats what we are here for, welcome to HRC.
Let's start simple, what do you have now (mics, mixer, amps, speakers, etc)? What kind of computer do you have?
Jul 18, 2005 05:59 pm yeah man fill it out in your profile and we can start from there....you're in luck because i'm an EXPERT at spending other peoples money!
welcome to HRC!
wyd
Jul 18, 2005 07:19 pm Well, rather than just adding on, I was thinking more towards a future studio. So basically just picture an empty room in a house...I want that to be a nice ProTools Studio. Start from scratch with whatever I need...mics, computers, programs, wires...I need to know everything it takes. So I'm going to start with a clean slate and hopefully you guys can fill it all up with EVERYTHING i'll need to have an awesome studio. Thanks.
Jul 18, 2005 07:36 pm A nice pro tools studio......
I talked top a guy from a very respsctable studio today saying he hated the sound of the digidesign convertors (quite surprised!). He uses Apogee ADA 8000's instead coupled with HD 3. Says they sound a lot better.
So what level of pro tools do you want to get into? (LE systems? HD Systems?)
By awesome do you mean profesionial?
Are you sure you want to use pro tools? There are a hell of a lot of other sequencers out there as well. Maybe they will suit your needs better.
Give us starting point man! lol
Jul 18, 2005 07:44 pm Haha okay well I know a guy and he uses ProTools and it sounds sweet...but I'm definitely open to any suggestions. As far as what level, I have no idea yet. By awesome, I mean professional to the point where I could record a band and have it released and have it sound like it was recorded in a nice studio.
Jul 18, 2005 07:58 pm Hate to say it man, but its like trying to get Steve Vai's guitar sound. It comes from his fingers.
I think to a certain extent Knowledge and Experience play the biggest role in the recording process.
I bet someone in the world has bought an HD system, worked out how to plug it in, got some signal, and then complained to the Retailer that it doesnt sound like the stuff on the radio. Infact I used to be like that :).
I aslo bet that some one in the world has made a fantastic recording on a stock standard sound card.
Go to a shop and have a listen. I dont want your studio to be my studio :).
Theres my idea's for ya anyway.
So what kind of pro tools system does your friend have?
I'd say maybe a something like a digi 002?
Other brands that i would suggest to look at are M-audio, Apogee, and Aardvark (still apogee though)
Jul 18, 2005 09:31 pm Quote:
By awesome, I mean professional to the point where I could record a band and have it released and have it sound like it was recorded in a nice studio.
Just for the record, very professional sounding recording can be just as easily produced by tool other than ProTools. Cubase, Sonar, Vegas and others are just as good of quality, and sound cards from M-Audio, ESI, Echo and many others sound just as good any ProTools gear.
Don't automatically be sold on ProTools cuz the guy down the street has it...it's not the only game in town by a long shot...and it'll save you a TON of money as well.
Jul 19, 2005 04:36 am It really will save you a ton of money to look at other options. The 002 pres certainly aren't my flavour of the month either.
Jul 19, 2005 09:14 am It's a rough game, spec'ing out someone elses environment. We don't know what kind of person you are, nor what type of capital you're working with.
Think like automobiles:
One person wants to buy a car that go fast, and look good. Pay 40$ and they're happy.
Second person wants to build a car that go fast and look good. Pay 15$ over 1.5 year, build a kick-butt car with their own hands, and they're happy.
Would you be happier with a PT setup, pay bunches, and be married to the technology, or would you be happier building the setup yourself, less money, more sweat, but more flexibility to change as you grow.
There's a good thing to figure out.
As far as the other stuff, PC, Mic, software, cables, etc., that's been covered here, and, though time consuming, the archives here are a wonderful resource, as there's been lots of discussion on these topics. Certainly, we're also here to help, but I'd think that a few days reading through old posts will give you a much broader insight into our opinions than just a flat 2 line answer.
Hope that helps, good luck and have fun.
Jul 19, 2005 01:38 pm i totally get what you guys mean...i'm definitely not set on ProTools, I just thought that was the nicest setup out there. And I plan on taking some classes on recording so I will actually know what all I need to buy to build my studio. I dont plan on just buying one and being stuck to it, I would want to make it perfect and make it custom made to what I want and need. Can other systems other than ProTools allow you to work on other peoples projects?
Jul 19, 2005 01:41 pm Yes, most higher end app will allow you to share project in various file formats. School will be all ProTools, most are...but don't go into it close-minded.
Jul 19, 2005 01:42 pm i hate pro tools the same way i hate macs
Sonar, Cubase, Logic, and Pro Tools are all capable of importing/exporting OMF files, which allows the whole projects fader position (even automation i think) and pan settings to be transfered between systems.....keep in mind that this dosn't apply to any plugins beeing used.
Jul 19, 2005 06:15 pm Pro tools aint the nicest set up out there man! There are even more eviler things than skeletor.... i mean better converters than Digi.
Jul 21, 2005 01:29 am I think what he needs is information on every component in the recording environment.
You will need the following:
1. A nice computer.
2. A sound card (the quality of said card depends entirely on how many tracks you plan on recording at once, basically, the complexity of the SOURCE recording)
3. If there are drums, or you dont like recording guitar/bass direct, you will need MICS.
4. Studio Monitors. Nearfield are nice, but for a room setup, you can get crazy ones.
5. Musical instruments.
That should be a good start. I would say start gathering information on each component, and choose which best suits your needs. As you start selecting, the studio will piece itself together.
A much more appropriate question to ask people on this forum deals with individual components.
FIND OUT WHAT YOU NEED and then ask us. Something along the lines of:
"I am looking into studio monitors for this room and am looking to spend $1,000,000. Can anyone recommend some?"
Best of luck!
Jul 21, 2005 04:26 am [quote](the quality of said card depends entirely on how many tracks you plan on recording at once, basically, the complexity of the SOURCE recording)
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hey man, can you explain this concept to me?
Jul 21, 2005 11:23 am maybe those cards that can record 8 inputs at 48khz, and only 4 at 96khz....
Jul 21, 2005 11:26 am Yeah, I see it like WYD, it's not if the actual musical piece is complex (cards don't care or know) but more how hi of resolution you are trying to get from it...also, just because your sound card says it can record 8 tracks at once...if you put that card into an old 200mhz Pentium with 32 MB of RAM, I don't care WHAT the card says it can do, it'll be a horrible experience trying to do it.
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