facing a great noise problem?

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Member Since: Mar 04, 2005

Hi everyone,

This is my first post and also I am really new to home recording stuff. But i have a serious problem. I have cubase sx2 and m-audio mobilepre soundcard running on a laptop. And with this equipment all I need to is record guitar, bass and sample drums.

But whenever i add an audio track and plug the guitar, at first it sounds fine, but all of a sudden a great distorted noise appears that nearly blows out the speakers. when i turn off the monitor icon. it dissapears. but the noise on the recorded audio track stays.

i checked all the cables, drivers, everything but nothing seems to work it out. Do you have any ideas on what may be the problem?
:(
thanx for all your replies....

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Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Mar 04, 2005 04:13 pm

welcome to HRC, but multiple posts won't help you get your question answered quicker.

I don't have an answer, but I would suggest finding an alternate way of monitoring...

Member
Since: Mar 04, 2005


Mar 04, 2005 06:07 pm


hi,

thank you for suggestion. but it doesn't seem to be a monitoring problem because when that noise starts, i also see that sudden rise it in the mixers input eq bar. does that say something to you?

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by the way i posted the topic in two forums because both seemed to be related for the subject. i couldn't figure out which one to post... sorry :)

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


Mar 05, 2005 11:37 am

welcome to HRC!

can you describe the noize a bit better?

like theres' the 60hz ground hum, dirty cable static, clipping, feedback, low rumble, high squeels, buzzing ect.

try to be as specific as the internet will let you and that'll help us troubleshoot this mofo.

peace

wyd

Member
Since: Mar 04, 2005


Mar 06, 2005 06:37 am

thank you wyd...

ok, now, let me go over it step by step in more detail. but first of all let me remind you that i'm no pro and i don't know the exact terminology for what i'm talking about:)

i open cubase sx on laptop pc, plug my guitar via m-audio mobilepre (which has the latest driver). now everything sounds fine. i have no problem at all. i simply add an audio track and check the red "c" button on mixer (i guess that control is clipping) and even if i hit on the strings so hard, the input level goes almost half the way.

i push the record button and play some tunes. and that's the only time i get this horrible noise but not always... sometimes i record for some 4-5 minutes and everthing is cool. but suddenly, just when i think the problem is fixed, the noise starts again.

now the noise can only be heard when a signal is coming out of the guitar. i guess the problem is where the signal is processed. signals coming from the the guitar is is like the most distorted guitar sound ever. but it's too loud and sustained. actully while playing you can hear that noise dissapear when not touching a string at all...

hey, by the way the noise can be heard by the audio tracks that i recorded.... is there a way that i can share them with you?






Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


Mar 07, 2005 12:19 pm

yeah hit me up on msn messenger and send me a file.... [email protected]
or email at [email protected]

i'm sure this is fixable.

wyd

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Mar 07, 2005 12:26 pm

"c" might be some sort of compressor, perhaps you have some gain setting to high on it.

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


Mar 09, 2005 01:56 pm

ok i've heard the noize and i must say i've never encountered this before....first it's a real weak signal then BAM!! Massive amounts of white noize....real bad, worse then i've ever heard before....then it settles down but the signal breaks up in the same manor, but just not pure white noize....can anyone help this guy out???? on that note lemme ask you, does it do it if you plug you heaphones into the mixer itself? or only when it's hooked up to the computer?


jeez this is fatal

I am not a crook's head
Member
Since: Mar 14, 2003


Mar 09, 2005 02:44 pm

I remember that SB Audigy cards used to do that too. They called it something like the "screech of death" or somesuch. Turns out it was a design flaw that cropped up on rare occasions.

I'd make sure that your Windows is all up-to-date with Windows Update, make sure that your drivers for your sound card(s) are all the most current, and maybe even check to see if there are any BIOS updates available for your motherboard.

What an annoying problem!

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


Mar 09, 2005 02:45 pm

Post the sound if you can.

The way it's not all the time, and somewhat conditional, I'm thinking it may be something in the PC, like an irq problem, or something like that.

I agree with wyd, is there good sound coming from the mixer, if so than it's the PC giving you the problem.

I'm thinking that when a certain condition is met, the PC starts doing something new, that conflicts with itself. Possibly windows isn't cacheing properly, or too much.

Maybe the memory is cacheing so much, but can't keep up with the hard drive after 'X' amount of data has passed, causing the memory to hit the hard drive. Maybe there's no temp storage, or page file?

- purely speculation on my part, just thinking out loud -

Keep us informed of a fix, as it may help others at some point.

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


Mar 09, 2005 03:47 pm

www.nowhereradio.com/arti...431&alid=-1

***keep your volume down***

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


Mar 09, 2005 04:49 pm

anyone have a clue??? i've never heard such ****

jimmie neutron
Member
Since: Feb 14, 2005


Mar 11, 2005 07:54 pm

OK, I hear the guitar on the left. Clean. Then there is a phase-shift type sound for a few flashes of a second and then the noise is there on the right, all distorted. Bad cable? Musician movement? Or, is there a motor (such as furnace fan) on the same "leg" of the electrical circuit? There's not really enough to go by without a better description of the room setup and circumstances. How about power-saver type stuff, such as ACPI or Intel speed stuff in the BIOS? Any of that enabled? Good luck, Jim, this computer will self-destruct in ...

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Member
Since: May 10, 2002


Mar 16, 2005 01:09 am

Wow, that is nasty!

I've heard similar noises with hardware malfunctions in amplifiers. Sounds very hardware-esk to me. That does not necessaraly mean that I am correct of course. Now days software glitches can mimic most any problem. Is it always one channel or the other? If it is a hardware issue, some channel swaping may shed a little extra light on the situation.

Member
Since: Mar 04, 2005


Mar 17, 2005 04:18 am

Sorry for not responding on your posts about my problem for a long time. But i've been facing more problems with my computer in the last week.

i started to believe that my problem was due to some computer settings... and i have been in contact with M-audio to solve my problem. they are really helpful, but considering their advices made more troubles. they adviced musicxp.net to prepare my pc for best recording results. i have done some changes in xp such as reducing visual elements, conflicting IRQ's and so on... and my computer never started again. i had to format the drive and lost a lot of documents that didn't have back up..:(

i will write again as soon as i can, with regarding all your replies...

thanx a lot

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