Cakewalk Project5 or Propellerhead Reason?

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Member Since: Feb 25, 2004

Torn. I heard Reason is a huge pain to learn? Is it worth it?

Err... I posted this in wrong section. Can a mod move this to gear gab, or should I repost and delete?

hehe thanks

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Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Feb 10, 2005 05:28 pm

i love the interface, it's the closest thing to "real life" as i've ever seen, press Tab, and you can literally pull the wires outta and route signals any way you want! way cool! but i know cakewalks stuff packs a good punch.

peace

wyd

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Feb 10, 2005 06:36 pm

All moved :)

Anyway, I'd go with project 5 just because it's not as closed, I don't think... Reason doesn't support VST or DX instruments. That said i haven't used either.

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Since: Feb 25, 2004


Feb 10, 2005 10:53 pm

Cool ty Loki

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Feb 11, 2005 12:59 pm

yeah i use reason as a plugin through sonar, as a standalone i'd hate it, the sequencer sucks...then again' i'm spoiled.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Feb 11, 2005 01:02 pm

Yeah, Project5's interface I could hardly even tell you what it looks like cuz I almost only use it as a plug thru sonar as well...

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Since: Feb 25, 2004


Feb 11, 2005 11:38 pm

Well, whichever I choose will be primarily for drums. The extra groovy sounds will be bonuses.

So... I guess both will serve my purpose yes?

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Since: Nov 28, 2004


Feb 11, 2005 11:45 pm

really I don't see the point in getting a soft studio if all you want is drums,you'll just be paying for a bunch of extra shyt so I suggest something like battery or Computer music's Sr 202 (it's a freebie)anywhoo Id suggest a vsti drum machine rather than a full blown production program.

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Since: Feb 25, 2004


Feb 12, 2005 12:21 am

Alright. I will check it out. I mean, I am right there with ya. I just want something to serve my purpose.

One of my main issues is that being a volcalist/guitarist, percussion always seemed a little out of my realm if you get me. I mean I could always get the basic beat, but creating my own fills and so forth, well they always sounded like crap frankly.

I also have a horrible problem with being a perfectionist. I used to have an Alesis drum machine ( way back ) and I got so pissed at it I gave it away. It just seemed like I could never get all I wanted out of it. Now that I am a little older and wiser I fully realize it wasnt the machine, it was the user.


man of music
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Since: Dec 12, 2004


Feb 12, 2005 08:50 am

i use reason 2.5 AND I LOVE IT!!!! not one complaint whatsoever.....i used to use FL3 and got tired of it,switched to reason 2.0 and haven't looked back since...idk no about project5 cuz i've never used or seen it,quite frankly i don't care cuz what ain't broke don't need fixing.....i agree w/ what wyd said in reason being the closest thing to "real life" music makin and i use a midi-controller,load my samples in one of their samplers and i'm on the keyboard chop choppin away,i use some of the hundreds of sounds from refills,all my personal drum-kits and i'm good...i'm gradually adding more hardware but reason 2.5 is the shh!!!+ and i can't wait for 3.0

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Feb 12, 2005 08:56 am

Hey, if you have one you like, yeah, no "reason" to switch (yeah, whatever, bad pun) but I use Project5. I really don't care at all about whats closer to "reallife" or not, I don't know what impact that should have, I just judge by the end result, the sound.

Project5 is a first class collection of softsynths of all kinds, great sounds, great tweakability, I love it. That said, I have heard from many that reason is good too, but like you said, if it ain't broke, don't fix it...for me, Project5 ain't broke :-)

man of music
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Since: Dec 12, 2004


Feb 12, 2005 09:22 am

by "real-life" i mean as close to using hardware...i don't use a mouse to make my beats i guess is what i'm tryna say at least not when it comes to actually makin the beat,i' don't place sounds in a row of lil squares or w/e,what you hear in the final product as far as sounds go was ALL placed by live playing on my midi-keyboard....the rack w/ all the devices stacked like an actual "rack" w/ "virtual" wires on the back....c'mon,you can't front....i'm eventually movin up to the ASR or MPC type deal but i'll always use reason....but yea the final product is what it's about no matter what you use

man of music
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Since: Dec 12, 2004


Feb 12, 2005 09:41 am

i just went and looked at the project5 on the net..it looks ok,that seems like i could use that similar to what i do now plus i think i saw it say it had DX/VST support plus other features that reason doesn't have which is all good but i guess reason sold me w/ the rack system,effin maginificent!!!the sounds and sound quality ain't bad either and if i need DX/VST then i rewire

bace135 in the house tonight!
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Since: Jan 28, 2003


Feb 12, 2005 10:42 am

I have made Reason my sequencer of choice now, and I'm very happy with it. The main reason is the sounds it comes with, and the ability to bring in almost any sound and have lots of flexibility with it (once you figure out how). I personally, think it is very easy to use once you figure out a few basic things. But, the one thing I've never been impressed with, in and of itself, is the whole virtual rack thing. For me I could care less that it looks like a rack. I never arrange the wires in the back. It's much more important to just get the job done.

The thing is, if you are just looking to do drum sequencing, I would thing about what Renegade said. It's nice to have the other tools Reason provides, but if you're not going to use them, no point in shelling out for them. Also, the drum sampler in Reason works like a real drum machine. So if you were having trouble working with your previous one, you may not like doing it in Reason either.

man of music
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Since: Dec 12, 2004


Feb 12, 2005 11:36 am

hey,it sure isn't hurtin it tho

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